j/k...nice FR page, I took a listen to the Midnight Cowboy theme while I went searching for this photo.
Posted on 12/15/2009 6:04:16 PM PST by SeattleBruce
"I don't see voting for the current bill that is on the floor, even with the improvements that have been made," Collins said. "I'm very leery of the impact of nearly $500 billion in Medicare cuts, particularly the cuts in home health care, which are completely counterproductive to the goal of lowering costs."
Collins explained that she is continuing to work on the bill not because she intends to vote for it but because, "I think something is going to pass, and I would like to make that bill as good as possible, even if ultimately it's not a bill that I can support."
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
“And, of course, by ‘too deeply flawed for me to support it’, I mean I will support it and vote for it.”
Collins won’t go for it?
It must be a real left wing turkey of a bill.
“I think something is going to pass”
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Argh...hope she’s wrong!
...well, that’s good news. What about Snowe?
No, she’s just playing hard to get. They don’t call her Coy Collins for nothin’ up their in Maine.
She must have figured out that they don’t need her vote to pass...
The Dem's haven't lost Snowe.
That would be “up there” in Maine. No insult intended for the fine citizens of Maine. Well, at least for the half who are real Mainers. For the imports from Boston and Manhattan, well, “theirs” might be appropriate.
Too ugly to be a Louisianna Purchase whore, so what’s her game? ... Attention whore! In the end, she’ll do as she always does, vote for what Reid tells her to vote for.
Sen. Collins may be getting a clue
For future reference in any and all legislation:
Your president is too deeply flawed for you to support him.
...well, that’s good news. What about Snowe?
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/GOP-Sen-Collins-Health-bill-is-too-deeply-flawed-for-me-to-support-it-79321657.html
“While everyone focuses on Sen. Joseph Lieberman and conflict inside the Democratic party, we’ve heard less about another development in the national health care debate: Republicans seem increasingly confident that the two GOP moderates once thought to be possible votes for the Democratic bill, Maine Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, will stay in the opposition camp. Today Collins told reporters that the bill under consideration in the Senate is “too deeply flawed for me to support it.”
http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/12/15/howard-dean-kill-the-senate-bill/
“Some more news worth telling: Snowe is rock-solid NO (so no worries) and it is highly, highly unlikely that this is finished by Christmas, leaving the question of whether Senator Reid wants to bring Senators back after Christmas, before New Years. My guess is the whole city would revolt, on both sides of the health care debate.
Everyone is sick of healthcare.”
Excuse my alphabet, but I don’t trust any of these M-Fers!!!!!
If she doesn’t vote for it it’s because she feels the hot breath of the Conservative Revolution breathing down her neck.
But I don’t believe her, not for a second. Her words are a Snowe job.
At least the voters of Maine could be honest and vote for Democrat's instead of infiltrating a once known as conservative party with insurgents.
Thanks. Now on to Ben Nelson.
The Dem’s haven’t lost Snowe.
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They may have - see post 13.
I hate to say this, but I think the Reid and Schumer are about done with all the fooling around and that they’re going to go for the 51 vote nuclear option.
If she doesn’t vote for it it’s because she feels the hot breath of the Conservative Revolution breathing down her neck.
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Good!
Is that what they call her? I call her, "the Senator who talks like a 'tard," and people seem to know who I'm referring to. (Although, come to think of it, maybe they thought I was referencing Lautenberg?)
What in the H is up with that, anyway? Is that an accent? A speech impediment? Or just how she talks?
Collins is an idiot
“No, she’s just playing hard to get. They don’t call her Coy Collins for nothin’ up their in Maine.”
What ever happened to the good people of Maine?
I hate to say this, but I think the Reid and Schumer are about done with all the fooling around and that they’re going to go for the 51 vote nuclear option.
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And watch the country rumble to a ROAR. It will seal their doom for a decade as we extract ourselves from their arrogance...
WE’RE NOT CALLED THE TEA PARTY FOR NOTHING...we revolted against the king before, and while it may not take the form of Bunker Hill this time, we’ll DO IT AGAIN!
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They may have - see post 13.
Yeah, and this whole debacle was DOA up front as we were told by "conservatives" in the GOP party.
Sorry, I'm just to the point of not taking the B.S. laying down anymore.
Collins is an idiot
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Sure we love to hate RINOS, but if they vote no and one or two RATS vote no, we’ll have a temporary reprieve/victory. Those are big ‘ifs’ I’m aware.
That would be “up there” in Maine.
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Isn’t that “down east” in Maine?
Fewer than 40% of Americans even support this stupid bill (and that's assuming they even know the details), so it's a no-brainer for anyone to be opposing it.
FYI — This story was written BEFORE Snowe met with Reid. The other thread is more recent.
Democrats seem oblivious to the polls which, heretofore, they lived by, so let them die by the same polls now.
I figure they must be counting on amnesty and redistricting to save their sorry butts in 2010.
If Bernie Sanders and a few other far lefties heed the call of the Kos and Howard Dean, the Dems may end up killing their own damned bill.
They'd have to do major, major restructuring of the bill to conform it for the budget reconciliation exception (wouldn't they?). Do they have time to do that? I don't see how.
Anyway, "The Won" won't let him do this now and spoil his SOTU. Maybe next year though.
Yeah, and this whole debacle was DOA up front as we were told by “conservatives” in the GOP party.
Sorry, I’m just to the point of not taking the B.S. laying down anymore.
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Right. I agree with you about that. But we’ve got to take the fight in stages, or we’d go nuts (Alinsky rules.) This stage of the fight has seen them strip the bill down of the favorite liberal candy and just leave in other massive 2,000 pages of a shell of socialist crap.
Are we there yet? Of course not. Are we having an impact...yes. Will it pass, and how, who knows? But we will keep fighting and if it does pass we’ll fight on more, till we gut it more...
The DAY OF RECKONING IS COMING FOR THESE ARROGANT RATS.
Whatever...the whore of the senate will vote for it..the price just isn’t right ...yet....
I’m fast coming to the same conclusion. That will be the opening volley of the Second Revolution, I suspect.
the 51 vote nuclear option
Afraid you are right. They want this cut and dried so it
doesn’t spill over to the 2010 election.
Some do have a memory and hope these people are picked off
in the next election
LOL :) Thanks BTW. I’m listening to music too. Trying to get out of this funk. Wishing I could go live on another planet.
FYI — This story was written BEFORE Snowe met with Reid. The other thread is more recent.
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Snowe or Collins? Which other thread - go ahead and link, if you will...thanks!
Hey Susan, if you need Olympia’s phone number, just let me know.
Am listening to John Batchelor on WABC
he is on 7 evenings a week.
Just had on a person from the Hill going over the vote situation.
I don't see why there isn't a gathering of all the Repubs on the steps of the capitol building with cameras running and see some kind of public demonstration about what is going on.
They seem quite content to let one or two people go on the talking head shows and say, "Well this just isn't right.", and leave it at that.
I wanna see screaming and shouting, finger pointing, name calling and damning to hell going on.
I have no idea what’s in the bill to be able to answer you about what the reconstruction would entail. Nobody has read it.
It’s looking like The Once won’t be getting his Christmas present, but he has to have his prized legislation before the SOTU lie-fest.
What a mess. I wish they’d recess and go home. They’re ruining Christmas. I’m sure we would all like to relax and have time away from ugly politics that our threatening our very liberty.
I have no idea what’s in the bill to be able to answer you about what the reconstruction would entail. Nobody has read it.
It’s looking like The Once won’t be getting his Christmas present, but he has to have his prized legislation before the SOTU lie-fest.
What a mess. I wish they’d recess and go home. They’re ruining Christmas. I’m sure we would all like to relax and have time away from ugly politics that are threatening our very liberty.
If they were really going to do that, then why drop the public option and the expansion of Medicare provisions? Surely they would have had 51 votes even with those provisions in the bill. If they go nuclear, might as well put those provisions back in.
I’m wondering what is the actual time line of the Collins comment? Rush said today on his show that Collins had said in a T.V. interview just before his show went on the air that she would be able to support the bill because of some work that Sen. Joe L. had done. Rush pretty much wrote her down as supporting it at that point, I thought.
Which of the comments did she make last? Is she, or is she not, supporting the bill?
Oh yeah - rebellion is brewing and I think we’re ready, right?
I’m not really sure I’m ready. Events have way of getting us ready in a hurry, though.
Did the person from The Hill mention Feingold, Sanders and Burris?
They’re playing to their fans at Huffington/Puffington and KOS, both of which want them to vote against the bill because of the concessions Reid made -— dropped public option and expansion of medicare.
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