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(WaPo) Democrats can't blame Bush for their troubles
Washington comPost ^ | 12/17/2009 | EJ Dionne

Posted on 12/17/2009 7:21:31 AM PST by markomalley

Here's what Democrats need to ponder: Can they prosper in the absence of George W. Bush?

His presidency was a tonic for Democrats and led to a blossoming of political creativity on the center-left not seen since the 1930s. No tactic, no program, no leader ever did more to catalyze the party than the rage Bush inspired.

The whole effort was summarized nicely by the party's slogan in 2006, "A New Direction for America." There was no need to specify north or south, east or west, up or down. Compared with Bush, any alternative destination seemed appealing. And by becoming the apotheosis of the fresh and the new, Barack Obama emerged as the most attractive guide to this unknown promised land.

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But politically, the Democrats are in trouble. They are at one another's throats over health-care legislation that should be seen as one of the party's greatest triumphs. They are being held hostage by political narcissists and narrow slivers of their coalition.

When Democrats make deals, they are accused of selling out. When they fail to make deals, they are accused of not reaching out. Moderates complain that their party has gone too far left. Progressives chortle bitterly at this, asking: What's left-wing about policies that shore up banks and protect drug companies?

Rural-state centrists insist on more fiscal discipline -- as long as it doesn't affect farmers and small-town hospitals. Progressives ask why debt should be the priority when so much more needs to be done to relieve unemployment.

This is a recipe for political catastrophe. An increasingly bitter and negative Republican Party may not be able to win the midterm elections, but Democrats definitely can lose them.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bds
Expect to see more of this as Bambi's "Into the Abyss" metric continues to tank:


1 posted on 12/17/2009 7:21:32 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley
The Democr@ps can't hide behind Bush any further. The leaves have fallen and the public is crying, "Leaf Me Alone!"

The Cr@P is exposed and it stinks. If we want to green our country, then scoop them up and throw them into history's trash bin?

SARC OFF!

2 posted on 12/17/2009 7:27:36 AM PST by Young Werther ("Quae Cum Ita Sunt - Julius Caesar "Since these things are so!")
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To: markomalley

“An increasingly bitter and negative Republican Party may not be able to win the midterm elections”

I don’t know about bitter but negative in the context of opposing this socialist nightmare is a plus. It’s for certain they can’t propose an agenda of their own since they don’t have the power to do so. Hence the negative charge.

As to the bitterness in the R party the writer professes to see, he might want to have a look at the behavior of the Democrats in regards to their relations with Republicans. Locking them out of hearings and implying they are descendants of pro slavery, anti women’s vote, etc. policies might tend to distract some members of the most collegiate body of lawmakers on the planet.


3 posted on 12/17/2009 7:29:28 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: markomalley

Feel your pain, E.J. Feel it long and deep.


4 posted on 12/17/2009 7:29:41 AM PST by billhilly
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To: markomalley

Feel your pain, E.J. Feel it long and deep.


5 posted on 12/17/2009 7:30:45 AM PST by billhilly
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To: markomalley

“An increasingly bitter and negative Republican Party may not be able to win the midterm elections, “

Huh?
Dream on!


6 posted on 12/17/2009 7:31:15 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Young Werther

The Democr@ps can’t hide behind Bush any further.

So true, now America has been re-introduced to the Dem party and they now remember why they hated them in the first place. Big change, this time around, they proudly claim their socialism, so there has been some movement towards honesty in elections.


7 posted on 12/17/2009 7:31:47 AM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: SmokingJoe
An increasingly bitter and negative Republican Party may not be able to win the midterm elections,

but Democrats definitely can lose them.

8 posted on 12/17/2009 7:32:55 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: markomalley

And the 7 years of bashing Bush was all BS.

He was 100 times the president Obambi is

The bigest thing wrong with bush was the press telling the world over and over again how evil he was.

I deal with a lot of overseas foks and the first thing they ALL say when I complain about Obambi is “well he’s better than Bush” (WORD-FOR-WORD)

Then when I ask them why they have no answer. NONE!

I explain to them about Global media brainwashing- and the funny thing is most of them hate communism and socilalism - so when I point out what ‘Obambi’ is doing there is a big disconnect


9 posted on 12/17/2009 7:33:22 AM PST by Mr. K (This administration is wearing out my capslock key..grrrrrr)
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To: markomalley; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; rabscuttle385; Impy; sickoflibs; Landru; classified; ...
RE :"Here's what Democrats need to ponder: Can they prosper in the absence of George W. Bush?" Wash Post quote above , not sickoflibs this time LOL

NOOOOOO! Not a chance!

My point exactly! Back in 2007!

Yes, the country is being destroyed!

Then why be cheerful?

American is finally realizing it and agreeing to oppose it with us!

You cant defeat them till that happens!

This is REALLY a Merry Christmas!

10 posted on 12/17/2009 7:33:54 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: markomalley

Democrats are the kings of victim politics.


11 posted on 12/17/2009 7:37:16 AM PST by Weird Tolkienish Figure
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To: markomalley

“”””An increasingly bitter and negative Republican Party may not be able to win the midterm elections,”””””

You just couldn’t do it, could you WAPO? You were going along fine but just had to throw that in there.


12 posted on 12/17/2009 7:38:18 AM PST by envisio (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: markomalley

I don’t remember the Republicans having this much trouble in the first year of Bush’s term.

SnakeDoc


13 posted on 12/17/2009 7:40:02 AM PST by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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To: Young Werther; 70th Division; oswegodeee; freekitty; Free ThinkerNY; jesseam; basil; nutmeg; ...

Animosity from the voters towards Bush was created and pushed hourly, 24/7, for eight years by the MSM and fostered by RATs (same ole same ole). Add to that the refusal by Bush and the leadership of the GOP to call the MSM and RATs out on their lies and propaganda.

The hourly propaganda of the Leftist MSM coupled with obvious massive voter fraud, left unchecked by the Republican Party, led to the 2008 ushering in of a Socialist thug dictator to the White House whose background was cleansed and not exposed. The MSM and RAT’s scheme brought us this Socialist/Elitist tyranny and treason of this Congress.

Time to clean the sewer that is this Congress in 2010 nd 2012. Based on everyone I talk to and everything I hear, the hatred for the current US Congress is massive. Pelosi is sniffing something if she doesn’t think she’s in the toilet with her cohorts.


14 posted on 12/17/2009 7:41:45 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: sickoflibs

Hey sicko, you’re one optomistic SOB, God bless ya. Must be hard, too...living in MD and all. Merry Christmas!


15 posted on 12/17/2009 7:44:40 AM PST by genetic homophobe (They hate Sarah because she lovingly carries a failed abortion on her hip.)
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To: Mr. K

The biggest thing wrong with Bush was that he was NOT a conservative. A globalist/socialist big government child of elitists, he handed us Marxism on a silver platter.


16 posted on 12/17/2009 7:47:28 AM PST by genetic homophobe (They hate Sarah because she lovingly carries a failed abortion on her hip.)
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To: markomalley
For his part, Obama has not appreciated until recently how closely he has been tied to Wall Street and the banks. He has been too reluctant to underscore how much of Washington's dysfunction has been pushed to new levels by the Republican Party's decision to grind the Senate to a halt

The Dem caucus has 60 votes, EJ - it is truly ironic that, in a column that castigates Dems for continuing to blame Bush, you blame the Senate gridlock on the GOP when the Dems have enough votes to technically do anything they want.

17 posted on 12/17/2009 7:48:20 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Mr. K

Yes, good point. The zer0 defenders don’t have much to back up their ideas with. They always start with “Bush wrecked everything.” And of course this took place over the entire 8 years. His astronomical approval ratings of 2001-03 mean nothing. If he really had been that bad he would have been defeated in 2004. Though of course they think he stole that election too. Ha ha.


18 posted on 12/17/2009 7:54:59 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: genetic homophobe

you are right

if he had NOT fallen for the liberal communists ‘sky is faling’ big bailout they would NOT be hanging the bad economy on him

Things were fine for 7.5 years until 6 months before the election

Then suddenly they talked the economy into the tank

They should have LET THOSE BANKS FAIL and explained why the government caused it!!!


19 posted on 12/17/2009 7:55:58 AM PST by Mr. K (This administration is wearing out my capslock key..grrrrrr)
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To: genetic homophobe
The biggest thing wrong with Bush was that he was NOT a conservative. A globalist/socialist big government child of elitists, he handed us Marxism on a silver platter.

It is hard to argue with this statement; however, the bushbots still do sometimes. As a president, the man was a disaster, just not to the proportions of the current TOTUS.

20 posted on 12/17/2009 7:56:08 AM PST by pt17
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To: markomalley

“No tactic, no program, no leader ever did more to catalyze the party than the rage Bush inspired. “

W and pubbies did well for 6 years before the Dems wore them down with their propaganda. It took just one year of left wing crapola to turn America against the Dems.

W is looking good in the rear view mirror.


21 posted on 12/17/2009 7:56:23 AM PST by y6162 (uish..)
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To: markomalley

FU EJ Dionne. YOU were one of the major perpetrators of the Blame Bush nonsense.

Instead of doing Investigative Journalism on Obama, you gave him a pass and slammed Bush at every opportunity.

It’s as much your fault, Washington Post, as the Democrats.


22 posted on 12/17/2009 7:58:53 AM PST by eCSMaster
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To: sickoflibs
My friend.
Why-oh-why would any sane individual GAF what WA's compost heap has to disgorge; nevermind, their colossal asshole EJ Dion or whateverthehellitcallsitself?
Puuuhhhleeeze, spare me will you. LOL
23 posted on 12/17/2009 7:59:43 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: genetic homophobe

Yikes.

You’ve been hanging out with the DUmmies too long. Same whiny platitudes.


24 posted on 12/17/2009 8:00:33 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: markomalley
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25 posted on 12/17/2009 8:03:15 AM PST by Jackknife (Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth, and boils his water with his rage)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
and they now remember why they hated them in the first place.

Yes, they hated the Dems for real things -- unlike Bush's unpopularity, which in large part was ginned up the constant drumbeat of the media (e.g., the president was golfing today, though unemployment stands at 5.4%, etc., etc., etc.). Rush has commented that the media convinced large swathes of the country that things were bad when they were really good and he wondered if they could succeed at convincing them that things are good when they're really bad -- looks like they can't!

26 posted on 12/17/2009 8:03:21 AM PST by maryz
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To: sickoflibs

27 posted on 12/17/2009 8:07:11 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Who was he talking about?)
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To: genetic homophobe

“compassionate conservatism” =socialism lite. (think Huckaphoney)
...real conservatism doesn’t need a silly , made-up , modifier .


28 posted on 12/17/2009 8:11:16 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

“...real conservatism doesn’t need a silly , made-up , modifier .”

How true.


29 posted on 12/17/2009 8:30:19 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: Landru

Guilty, I never read past the first line I reposted..
was the article annoying?


30 posted on 12/17/2009 8:39:50 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: genetic homophobe; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; rabscuttle385; Impy
RE :”Hey sicko, you’re one optimistic SOB, God bless ya. Must be hard, too...living in MD and all. Merry Christmas!

Sicko ??? That's Moore's single payer movie. is there a hidden message here?

Realistic ??? We are totally screwed. Our best bet is gridlock, and gold.

Optimistic ??? How about all those Republicans told by talk radio that Republican Party would win 2006? ...and then told the same thing again in 2008 and believed it again? Now talk about optimism.

What concerns me is the ‘pro-republican’ attitude here vs a anti-Washington attitude we need. Both parties are full of crap. At this point we need opposition and gridlock till Republicans and even conservatives figure out what they are 'for' and really 'against'(beyond just democrats) .

31 posted on 12/17/2009 9:08:52 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: markomalley
the party's slogan in 2006, "A New Direction for America." There was no need to specify north or south, east or west, up or down. . . .
. . . they just go 'round and 'round.
32 posted on 12/17/2009 9:50:43 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

This is exactly what I keep saying. Every 20 or so years America loses it’s mind and elects a liberal government, last time was the first 2 Clinton years and before that Carter. The Dems each and every time remind America why they can’t be trusted in leadership positions.


33 posted on 12/17/2009 9:50:56 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: markomalley
The "its all Bush's fault" meme is no longer working. Bush won't be on the ballot in 2010. Taxes, regulations and unemployment will be.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

34 posted on 12/17/2009 11:09:18 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: dirtboy
Exactly! The GOP doesn't have the votes to stop Obamacare from passing. The Democrats are torn by infighting over whether the bill goes far enough to their real goal - a single-payer system. They couldn't even get the votes in the Senate for Bernie Sanders' SP amendment. In short, they have these huge congressional majorities but they can't govern and they can't deliver.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

35 posted on 12/17/2009 11:12:44 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

You are my buddy, you havent complained about me pinging you, or cursed me out for any of my opinions :)


36 posted on 12/17/2009 11:38:27 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: markomalley

...but they will anyway.


37 posted on 12/17/2009 11:40:12 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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