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China tells U.S.: No deal
Politico.com ^ | 12/17/09 | Glenn Thrush

Posted on 12/17/2009 7:21:58 AM PST by OldDeckHand

COPENHAGEN — China’s climate negotiators have told Western counterparts they can’t agree to an “operational agreement” on climate change that President Barack Obama had hoped to bring home from Copenhagen –- and will push for a short, noncommittal collective statement at the end of the talks, according to American staffers briefed on the situation.

It’s not clear if remarks by Chinese officials, made during negotiating sessions on Wednesday night, signal the end of efforts to reach a significant agreement or simply represent an 11th hour bargaining tactic less than a day before Obama was due to arrive in Copenhagen.

But U.S. officials fear it's the former, with little time left to negotiate a real deal before COP 15’s conclusion Friday.

Lead U.S. negotiator Todd Stern told POLITICO late Wednesday that his staff had not engaged in one-on-one “bilats” with China for a whole day – and hadn’t even addressed a major issue, a proposed “border tax” on countries that flouted international accords. That provision was included in the cap-and-trade measure the House passed in July – and no bill omitting it is likely to pass the Senate.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: algore; beijing; carbontax; china; chinese; climatechange; climategate; copenhagen; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingscandal
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Something's wrong when I find myself rooting for Chinese interests, over the stated goal of the US administration.
1 posted on 12/17/2009 7:21:58 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

God works in mysterious ways.


2 posted on 12/17/2009 7:24:30 AM PST by bsf2009
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To: OldDeckHand

Obama

EPIC FAIL


3 posted on 12/17/2009 7:24:58 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: OldDeckHand
Go China !
They just saved us $100 million !
4 posted on 12/17/2009 7:25:04 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: bsf2009

Yeah me too. Russia and China are exposing the fraud at the UN Climate Summit. Amazing I trust them more than our Government and so called allies.


5 posted on 12/17/2009 7:26:11 AM PST by scooby321
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To: OldDeckHand

I’d trust the Chinese leadership over the Loon anyday.

In any case, they know they’re dealing with an ill-prepared, limp wrist-ed idiot with absolutely no expertise in anything useful.

The Loon brings kleenex to a gunfight.


6 posted on 12/17/2009 7:27:04 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Or... we just saved them from floating another 100million dollar loan to us! LOL


7 posted on 12/17/2009 7:27:11 AM PST by nagdt ("speak the truth but leave immediately afterward")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“100 Million”. That should read 100 “BILLION”


8 posted on 12/17/2009 7:28:47 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: OldDeckHand

I never thought that in this lifetime I’d raise a glass to China for their actions.

In essense, China told Obama and his “climate change” to go pound sand. I agree.


9 posted on 12/17/2009 7:29:12 AM PST by This Just In
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To: OldDeckHand

Shai Shai Nei Chicoms - I guess you too have had enough of socialism and would like to see your children enjoy their futures rather than pay for the glutoney of their parents.


10 posted on 12/17/2009 7:29:17 AM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: nagdt

Hopefully it will “save” us $200 billion per year for 10 years, or $1 Trillion.... that the clinTon was offering.


11 posted on 12/17/2009 7:29:18 AM PST by C210N (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"They just saved us $100 million ! "

A $100 million, or a $100 billion, or more?

12 posted on 12/17/2009 7:29:37 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand; All

For the first time in my adult life, I am “proud” of the People’s Republic of China.

In other words, I don’t care which pirates end up scuttling the ship, it needs to be sunk.


13 posted on 12/17/2009 7:30:12 AM PST by AbeKrieger (Islam is a trojan horse designed to infiltrate and bring down Western civilization.)
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To: AbeKrieger

If Obama can’t take us out with healthcare and climategate
he’ll try something else just as bad or worse
join oathkeepers.org


14 posted on 12/17/2009 7:34:58 AM PST by manonCANAL
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To: OldDeckHand

Absolutely. The goals of this administration are to weaken the country, economically, militarily, and culturally. Signing on to a massive scam involving $100 billion of taxpayer money to be redistributed on a global scale to the world’s Marxists and thugs is something we should all be rooting against. Kudos to the Chinese for seeing this sham for what it is.


15 posted on 12/17/2009 7:35:58 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: OldDeckHand
A $100 million, or a $100 billion, or more?

Why does it matter? We'll just print it, stick it in an envelope, and mail it out to the warlords for distribution among their favored. But we'll feel good about it as our guilt washes away. Until the next third-world shakedown or liberal Madoff scam.

16 posted on 12/17/2009 7:36:03 AM PST by AbeKrieger (Islam is a trojan horse designed to infiltrate and bring down Western civilization.)
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To: OldDeckHand

FREAKIN RIGHT ON!

GO CHINA!


17 posted on 12/17/2009 7:36:14 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You mean Trillion.


18 posted on 12/17/2009 7:36:35 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: OldDeckHand

It’s Chinas’ policy to SELL arms to the dirt-eaters; not give them to them. DUH!


19 posted on 12/17/2009 7:38:59 AM PST by catchem (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: scooby321

It is distressing for me to find myself rooting for Russia and China here—and more and more often generally.

While we’ve only 14 weeks until spring, we’ve got 160 weeks until the Palin administration.


20 posted on 12/17/2009 7:39:11 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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