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Latin King Gang Member Shot While Tagging Garage Near Fairmount Park
blogs.riverfronttimes.com ^ | 12/17/2009 | Staff

Posted on 12/17/2009 4:58:55 PM PST by Red in Blue PA

A southwestern Illinois man claims he shot in self defense when a 17-year-old gang-banger attempted to break into the home where he was staying Tuesday night.

Law officers, however, tell another story. They say the 38-year-old shooter fired at the teen from a distance of 75 to 100 feet away. And -- they say -- the teen wasn't trying to break into the house. He was shot while spray painting graffiti on the garage in the backyard.

The incident occurred unincorporated Collinsville just down the street from the Fairmount Park race track. The teen was found a few blocks away near the intersection of Collinsville Road and Black Lane and rushed to a St. Louis hospital with a wound to his chest and back.

According to the St. Clair County Sheriff's Department, the teen is a member of the Latin King street gang and a resident of St. Louis who's known to frequent St. Clair County. The sheriff's department says the teen purchased three cans of spray paint earlier that day in Collinsville. He's currently listed in stable condition at the hospital.

Sheriff deputies have arrested the 38-year-old man who fired the shot on charges of aggravated battery with a firearm. They say he is not the owner of the residence, but rather friend of the homeowner who was staying at the home.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; burglary; fairmountpark; fairwaypark; gang; gangbangers; ganggraffiti; gangs; gangtags; graffiti; illinois; latinking; latinkings; tagging; vandalism
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To: Red in Blue PA
Gangs are a cancer on this nation. Until people wake up to this fact and ACCEPT things like this shooting

Oh please! Get off your damn soapbox.........

Approving the killing of a kid, no matter what his affiliations are, over spray painting a building shows just how ignorant you are and stereotypical of everything the leftists accuse us of being..........

You're not only a joke and a disgrace to all Christian conservatives but you're just plain sick!

21 posted on 12/17/2009 5:36:26 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want a hoochie-mama for Christmas, only a hoochie-mama will do............)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I am not on a soapbox of any kind. You are clueless my friend, if you do not see the threat gangs post to this nation.

My advice is to educate yourself.....watch A&E’s specials on Gangs. It’s a wake up call for this nation!

http://www.aetv.com/listings/episode_details.do?episodeid=158019


22 posted on 12/17/2009 5:38:47 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
The homeowner went to gaol.

That sounds bad........

23 posted on 12/17/2009 5:39:38 PM PST by Osage Orange (Obama's a self-made man who worships his own creator...............)
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To: Red in Blue PA

> How many people die each year because they wonder into places where the area is tagged as a gangs?

Then surely these gangs are performing a public service by advertising their presence by tagging? Would it be better if they didn’t tag and you could stumble into their neighborhoods and get killed without any warning at all?

Make no mistake: I am opposed to tagging and I do not like gangs or the crime that comes along with them. Tagging is a part of the intimidation that gangs perpetrate on neighborhoods. It’s all part of their “package”.

That said, Tags are a fantastically convenient sign that a neighborhood has a crime problem. In my view, gangs would be much smarter not to advertise their presence in this fashion.

Oh well, it makes my task much, much easier.


24 posted on 12/17/2009 5:55:17 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Osage Orange

> That sounds bad........

It is difficult to do something bad enough to go to gaol in New Zealand, but if one is willing to invest the time and effort and really try hard, our courts will oblige.

Gaols here are almost medieval.

It will be either Paremoremo or Mt Eden (think “Sing Sing” or “Alcatraz” but right in the middle of a posh suburb), and he will probably be in protective custody throughout his sentence.

He has received death threats and a promise that he will not be released alive. And, I have heard, there is a sizable bounty issued to help ensure that outcome.

It’s a really tragic story: he was a family man, middle management, and he won’t see his kids while they grow up.


25 posted on 12/17/2009 6:03:39 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

One less POS to worry about.


26 posted on 12/17/2009 6:04:36 PM PST by dbrew2u
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To: Red in Blue PA

Tagger = vandal

Dead tagger = dead vandal


27 posted on 12/17/2009 6:08:07 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: Hot Tabasco
The shooter is almost certainly going to spend some time in jail over this, I wonder if maybe he's having second thoughts about squeezing off that round at a "tagger".
28 posted on 12/17/2009 6:08:26 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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To: Graybeard58

In reality, the guy has probably saved countless lives by his actions.


29 posted on 12/17/2009 6:10:19 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I visited Auckland in the late 70's.....

Was sort of a business vacation....

Loved it...but want to go back.

Thanks for the education.....

FRegards,

30 posted on 12/17/2009 6:13:37 PM PST by Osage Orange (Obama's a self-made man who worships his own creator...............)
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To: Red in Blue PA
In reality, the guy has probably saved countless lives by his actions.

Reality is that he is most likely going to jail.

31 posted on 12/17/2009 6:17:29 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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To: Red in Blue PA

> In reality, the guy has probably saved countless lives by his actions.

Bollix.


32 posted on 12/17/2009 6:18:18 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: bert

> Dead tagger = dead vandal

Dead tagger = dead petty criminal


33 posted on 12/17/2009 6:19:20 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: 1rudeboy

No, you just have to fill out the paperwork to get tax stamp for a suppressor, unless your state gov has completely negated the 2nd amendment so bad that you can’t get a class 3 device.

Also looks like this guy just lives in the wrong state, it used to be that if someone was damaging your property, no one cared if you defended it, it was called property rights. Now leftist and statists have so eroded all our rights including the sovreignity of our own property that this is not so in all states.


34 posted on 12/17/2009 6:27:36 PM PST by jkeith3213
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To: Red in Blue PA
"They say the 38-year-old shooter fired at the teen from a distance of 75 to 100 feet away."

But according to the exhibitions by "experts" and authorities, that's impossible. They can't make small groups of holes in the centers of targets 100 feet away--even with their professionally manufactured ammunition for blowing each disobedient thug into many loose chunks of quivering flesh.

The "shooter" (wooooooo-"shooter!") must've been a student of old codgers instead of those in-style "experts."


35 posted on 12/17/2009 6:28:26 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Are you aware of the rampant gang problem in the USA? From the sound of it, I don’t think you have a clue, no offense intended.

Gangs rules parts of every major city. Until we as a nation undertake the dirty job of taking this country back, all is lost.

The chaos on the Mexico border is not far behind if we cannot control gangs.


36 posted on 12/17/2009 6:30:29 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: 1rudeboy

No, you just have to fill out the paperwork to get tax stamp for a suppressor, unless your state gov has completely negated the 2nd amendment so bad that you can’t get a class 3 device, but, this is Illinois in the story so....there you go.

Also looks like this guy just lives in the wrong state, it used to be that if someone was damaging your property, no one cared if you defended it, it was called property rights. Now leftist and statists have so eroded all our rights including the sovreignity of our own property that
this is not so in all states.


37 posted on 12/17/2009 6:31:10 PM PST by jkeith3213
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To: 1rudeboy

No, you just have to fill out the paperwork to get tax stamp for a suppressor, unless your state gov has completely negated the 2nd amendment so bad that you can’t get a class 3 device, but, this is Illinois in the story so....there you go.

Also looks like this guy just lives in the wrong state, it used to be that if someone was damaging your property, no one cared if you defended it, it was called property rights. Now leftist and statists have so eroded all our rights including the sovreignity of our own property that
this is not so in all states.


38 posted on 12/17/2009 6:32:35 PM PST by jkeith3213
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To: jkeith3213
Also looks like this guy just lives in the wrong state, it used to be that if someone was damaging your property, no one cared if you defended it, it was called property rights.

My understanding of the law of trespass is that it entitles you to restitution for damages, and it's a doctrine that dates pretty much back to the Norman Conquest.

Heck, even in Texas the guy has to steal something before you can shoot him.

39 posted on 12/17/2009 6:32:40 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Travis McGee

The shooter made the cardinal mistake of opening his mouth to the cops.

If he’d popped a cap in his ass and kept his yap shut he wouldn’t be having these problems.


40 posted on 12/17/2009 6:33:15 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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