Reid Files Cloture, First Floor Vote On Senate Health Care Bill Saturday, 8 PM (11/19/09)

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/first-floor-vote-on-senate-health-care-bill-saturday-8-pm.php?ref=fpb ^ | November 19, 2009, 4:23PM

[Orange1998]

UPDATE: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid just filed for cloture on the motion to proceed to debate on his health care bill. That pretty much seals it. Unless conservative Democrats take a very public stand by voting "no," the bill unveiled yesterday will be the bill the Senate hashes out on the floor.

[Orange1998]

I guess ONLY Reid knows whats in the bill.

[freekitty]

I thought they were still reading the amendment and I guess they like Saturdays to do their dirty work.

[ncalburt]

what bill ?

[Erik Latranyi]

They have the votes in the Senate....it is now up to Pelosi to decide if she takes the Senate bill, without changes, directly to a House vote or if she wants to go for conference.

If the House passes the exact Senate bill, it goes straight to Obama for signature.

[scooby321]

Where is CBO costs? Where is the Bill?

[hennie pennie]

*ping*

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Senate health Care Debate - Live Thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2411060/posts

LINK to the live Free Republic Messagethread discussing the C-SPAN broadcast of the the health care debate

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[jeltz25]

Well, from what I’ve seen now we’ll see if the House dems roll over. The abortion part is vastly different from the house abortion amendment. If Stupak and his other pro-life colleagues have any integrity, this thing still won’t pass the reconcilliation. There’s still a ways to go.

In the end, though, if it does pass, it’s probably best that it passes with zero GOP support. They won’t get any credit if it goes well or for it so there’s no point in voting for it. If it stays unpopular and proves not to work though, they will get tons of credit for opposing it.

Just look how far Obama went because he “opposed the Iraq War from the beginning”. If he had supported it Hillary would be President right now.

I can’t remember any piece of legislation this unpopular tha thas been passed. Immigration and social security were both unpopular under Bush but neither of them passed. Welfare reform was popular under Clinton.

If the dems want to pass a bill that 60% of the public opposes, they should.

The new GOP Congress and/or President can always repeal/greatly scale back whatever emerges once they take back power.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

what bill ?

The Bill you know the bill the one they showed us on ummmm yea the one they were going to be completely open and honest about you know they uhhhhh mmmmm hmmmm

Awww cmon why do you ask such hard questions you would think that they are working for us or something

[mrsmel]

Un-freakin'-believable. A clear majority of the public oppose it, it doesn't help anyone, it mandates that people buy insurance---I can't believe they are doing this over the will of the public from both left and right. Deals have been made on the backs of the taxpayers to achieve passage--this thing stinks from the start and can only become worse, because you know that it's just laying the groundwork for Hussein and his cohorts to add by other means every marxist amendment they ever wanted. I hate the pigs on the Hill, worthless pieces of sh*t, lying scum, not worth the powder to blow them to hell. This is full-fledged tyranny, what are we gonna do about it?

[ncalburt]

bizarre,these dangerous fools voting on a bill that they have not read.
democrats are the dumb,evil, and short sighted lot looking for a state media headline .

[LdSentinal]

Where's Joe Lieberman? Isn't he back in Connecticut?

[MNlurker]

if the vote of 2010 is tainted in any way, we’re past torches and pitchforks as a solution as far as I’m concerned.

[Mr Rogers]

“If Stupak and his other pro-life colleagues have any integrity, this thing still won’t pass the reconcilliation.”

Mighty big IF!

[bray]

Welcome to the USSA!

Pray for Freedom

[digger48]

I thought they were still reading the amendment and I guess they like Saturdays to do their dirty work.

Somewhere downpage, a thread says the Vote for Passage is scheduled for 1AM Monday

[SERKIT]

The bill is a shell. The real ‘secret sauce’ is in the manager’s amendment which will be dropped like Hiroshima later, rumored to be 2,000+ pages, and may not have much likeness to the sham framework currently discussed on the talking head shows, or by the doddering, confused senators.

[VOA]

“
I guess ONLY Reid knows whats in the bill.
“

You are being very charitable.
I doubt Reid has read more than a small fraction of that hideously fat bill.

And as for the Republicans...talk about limp opposition.
I’ve been waiting for the one to publically say:
“We have NO idea who wrote this bill!!! Given that he’s the most frequent
visitor to the White House, Andy Stern of the SEIU union could have
dictated the bill to Obama for transport to Reid and Co.”

[mystery-ak]

Follow the link, this article is dated November 19, 2009

UPDATE: Reid Files Cloture, First Floor Vote On Senate Health Care Bill Saturday, 8 PM
Brian Beutler | November 19, 2009, 4:23PM

[fatima]

Thanks Orange1998.

[mockingbyrd]

If Stupak and his other pro-life colleagues have any integrity

They don't.