Obama eligibility - naive law student gets an 'F' as attorney rips her a new one

renewanmerica.com ^ | 12/24/09 | Philip J. Berg

[westcoastwillieg]

Attorney Philip J. Berg defends Obama birth certificate lawsuits

Editor's note: Philip J. Berg, former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania and an activist attorney who brought a lawsuit challenging the eligibility of Barack Obama to become president of the United States, has written the following reply to Jamie Freeze's Dec. 22 RenewAmerica article "Facts are stubborn things: Obama is a natural-born citizen."

Jamie Freeze, a law student, has called any of us who question Soetoro/Obama's citizenship status and constitutional eligibility to serve as U.S. President --- a constitutional right of ours, of course --- incompetent idiots. Ms. Freeze, however, may want to continue her education. Part of being a lawyer, a very important part, is being able to comprehend what you read and to cite the correct law to collaborate it, something Ms. Freeze has clearly failed to do.

I will respond below to Ms. Freeze's allegations. My responses are in bold. I also want to make very clear to all readers that none of the eligibility cases have been heard, litigated, or dismissed based on the law pertaining to any of the issues raised. Instead, the eligibility cases have been dismissed on the basis of "STANDING" only.

[Mygirlsmom]

Goes to show the quality of law students nowadays.

This "girl" writes like she's in middle school. When and if she finishes, she is destined for government. Super high opinion of herself, mediocre performance.

[cycle of discernment]

Agree. The ruse is to take in the clothing of a republican and then undermine these claims from THAT perspective.

How long has she been GOP affiliated?...even if several years, ‘Obama-in the-making’ is an intricate undertaking, many parts, players and time invested.

[Vernon]

Has a habit of throwing people under the bus...

[WhyisaTexasgirlinPA]

She’s being trained to be intelligent? Isn’t that something you either are, or are not? Dang, I could have trained my idiot stepsisters to have an IQ above warm dirt...?

[bgill]

She writes like a high school kid.

You beat me to it but I was going to say an incompetent middle school kiddie.

[grumpygresh]

A question to constitutional experts, attorneys. Would an 0bama signature of health care legislation that includes mandates to purchase insurance provide any basis for some form of class action that challenges 0bama’s eligibility more than any of the current challenges?

[raybbr]

Yes, I did read the article. See my response at #63.

[bgill]

Has fighting all these birther cases been the only legal work that Perkins Coie has done for Obama? Or are there other legal issues mixed in there?

There might have been that land deal but Rezko took the fall and it was hushed up. There had been speculation there were other real estate shenanigans but all's quite now. There is also most assuredly hush money being thrown around the world but that most likely being conducted behind closed doors and far, far away from any connections to him.

[GregNH]

Probably a topic for a separate post.

[LachlanMinnesota]

I don't think so. They are defeating these cases on the argument that no one has standing to litigate the issue, and therefore, the court never has to address the issue. IIRC they have never submitted anything that deals directly with the issue of Obama’s birth, because the court has never allowed it to get that far.

[HighlyOpinionated]

It is the left who have, in essence, become lawless. Every strangling edict they issue carries an exemption for themselves.

Great Tag Line, had to shorten it for the space available.

[bgill]

Unless the BC is merely a ruse to distract us from something even more shocking, i.e. his Indonesian citizenship, how and who paid for his college and his traipsing around the world on who knows what passport. I suspect there’s a long, long condeming paper trail that will one day unravel.

[GregNH]

In Hollister v. Soetoro Bob Bauer asked the court to take “judicial notice” of the fact that his client, Barack Obama “publicly produced a certified copy of a birth certificate showing that he was born on August 4, 1961, in Honolulu Hawaii.” And noting a birth announcement published in a Honolulu newspaper.

Neither document was provided for the court, because neither document exist, but the fact that Bauer only had these items to “offer” the court as proof of his clients eligibility is quit interesting.

[FreeperFlirt]

Article one section of the Constitution does not give Congress the right to enforce us citizen to but a product from a private company. The spin will be to make it a tax but still I believe we can defeat this, but just like obama BC cases no “standing” might apply until it goes full bloom with passage of bill,refusing to buy arrested and convicted then one will have standing to challenge the bill as unconstitutional

[varon]

She writes like a high school kid.

Note to self: DO NOT retain Jamie Freeze!!!

[WOSG]

That essay you linked is pretty well written and hits the nail on the head.

[AmericanVictory]

Of particular importance in this discussion is Hemenway's quote from the SCOTUS opininion in Scheider v. Rusk in which it is made absolutely clear that statutory law concerning naturalization has nothing to do with the eligibility requirement of Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 and that statutory law cannot alter constitutional provisions. Berg seems to ignore this point just as he does the 19th century case law indicating the importance of Vattel's views on this point. It is perhaps fortunate for Colonel Hollister that Berg and his team resigned from the case, since he seems to needless and erroneously concede a fundamental point that is very much at issue.

One wonders how a self-described methodical law student can have failed so badly to research the law as to confuse statutuory law of naturalized citizenshship with the Constitutional requirement for presidential eligibilty that long preceded the 14th Amendment and was unaffected by it, as the Supreme Court points out. The quote in question was used by the 10th Circuit not long ago in the Craig case to make the point she seems completely ignorant of. What kind of a law student thinks statutes can alter the Constitution. Is that being taught in law schools these days?

[HighlyOpinionated]

I’ve said before that I believe Barry’s birth certificate carries 1- a different name for his father and/or 2- his race as Caucasian.

Both would be embarrassing to him. But what’s worse is the ADOPTION by Lolo Soetoro and his use of Indonesian Citizenship to attend Occidental College as an Affirmative Action Foreign Student and to get the Passport to go to Indonesia and Pakistan back in 1981 when he should have reestablished himself as a US Citizen [IF he indeed could have done that legally].

He’s using the Social Security Number of a deceased Connecticut person. Orly Taitz has ALL that documentation from the many SSNs he’s used. Yet NO JUDGE QUESTIONS that? It’s been surmised that his GrandMother (the White folk one) assisted him in obtaining the SSNs when she was working at the Bank in Hawai’i.

Collusion with the Judiciary? If it could be proved, the entire SCOTUS should be recalled, impeached, imprisoned, drawn, quartered, tarred, feathered, run out on a rail. Not necessarily in that order.

[varon]

..............we can detach safely from these imposters, try them for treason and hopefully see them put to death—quite rightly, before GOD and man—and not become lawless in the process*.

Well stated. It is time we stopped defending ourselves under terms dictated by the treasonous impostors and strike for freedom on our terms!!!

[MHGinTN]

“What kind of a law student thinks statutes can alter the Constitution.(?)” Sham conservative/actually liberal ones, as this vacuous-brained girl shows.