Posted on 12/26/2009 1:45:51 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
How can the Democrats possibly include a clause in health-care reform that requires a super-majority to repeal, if they don't pass it with a super-majority?
I think they're blowing smoke up our exit-orifices, and know that the next Congress can undo anything they do.
They are doing everything they can to ensure it stays. Cementing it into the American fabric of life.
They know their leadership postilion is on shaky ground with many Americans and they do not want to take the chance that when the scales tip the opposite way that they could be undone.
Past decanes show a see-saw motion always from Dem-to-Pubbie/Lib-to-Con ... and they don’t want the see-saw to continue.
They want the momentum in their direction even when they don’t control it.
They can’t, of course. A subsequent Congress could repeal the clause requiring a super-majority to repeal it.
If this was possible, they would do it every time they passed a law. This would give one Congress more power than another. There should be no way this is legal.
They can’t.
As a matter of fact, according to the rules of the senate, THEY CAN’T!! But then, since when do democrats pay any attention to the rules and since when do our steel-spined republican representatives ever bring up the travesties committed by the thugs on the left! Mitchie McConnell just “wants to get along” after all!!
Simple - the Constitution means nothing to them. Rules mean nothing. All they care about is solidifying their Marxist power.
The do not nor will they ever have the power to enact anything that permanent. It does however show just how damn arrogant these bastards are. It shows that they have NO regard the opinion of America today or even tomorrow. They only value their own opinion and personal goals. This in itself should be enough to have them prosecuted and lined up against the back wall of the building.
It is an outright blatant violation of the trust and power than has been afforded to them.
Easy enough to do. We'll just use the Murtha technique for establishing a super-majority...and no one can question the chair's judgment.
The next time the parliamentarian is called upon to interpret whether the Senate may do what it is upon the precipice of doing, and might get a different interpretation. These shifting facts, the Senate being empowered to make its own rules, and vesting interpretations thereof with its chief parliamentarian present at the moment, shows how something could be abused, "if indeed it has," and how Senators could cover their butts from impeachment if not charges of treason.
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We will need a super majority to overcome the veto from the democrat president.
That is why we will need a super majority.
No, more than likely they will fail, but it is one last “grasp as straws” that shows their desperation in trying to get their “Healthcare Reform (Deathcare)” made permanent, everyone who runs in 2010-2012 should pledge to REPEAL “HEALTHCARE REFORM” TOTALLY!
Unless a Marxist/Democrat is stopped by law, with police in the room if necessary, from doing what they are doing, they will never stop.
When they do they only move on to their next agenda. We need to learn just who these demons are and plan their exodus.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/The-impudent-tyranny-of-Harry-Reid-8665439-79935422.html
It’s “just one section,” this editorial states having to do with Medicare. Another posting several days ago stated another provision of the section had to do with the recommendations of the advisory panels (death panels) and that because of the parliamentarian’s ruling that it is a change of Senate “procedures” rather than “rules,” it would take 2/3 to overturn. The other article made the point that this was like handing it off to the bureaucracy, out of the reach of the legislative branch, akin to EPA “finding” CO2 a dangerous substance, and from years gone by , implementation of affirmative action in ways that seem opposite to the original legislative language. I think the ACORN defunding that was so easily overturned by a slippery DOJ interpretation would be another example. Ruling by bureaucracy, in other words.
They fill power vacuums.
When there is no one around to stop them from doing something(or they have big enough majorities) and its in their interest they automatically do what ever they "feel" like doing.
It's the kid in the cookie jar.
If the mom is away and no one is there to stop them from taking all the cookies they just keep eating.
They are too dumb to know they will get a stomach ache or worse yet throw them all up but they can not resist free cookies.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/The-impudent-tyranny-of-Harry-Reid-8665439-79935422.html
It’s “just one section,” this editorial states having to do with Medicare. Another posting several days ago stated another provision of the section had to do with the recommendations of the advisory panels (death panels) and that because of the parliamentarian’s ruling that it is a change of Senate “procedures” rather than “rules,” it would take 2/3 to overturn. The other article made the point that this was like handing it off to the bureaucracy, out of the reach of the legislative branch, akin to EPA “finding” CO2 a dangerous substance, and from years gone by , implementation of affirmative action in ways that seem opposite to the original legislative language. I think the ACORN defunding that was so easily overturned by a slippery DOJ interpretation would be another example. Ruling by bureaucracy, in other words.
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“Policy is just words on paper.”
This is why they attack the Bible, and our moral fabric every chance they get. Thus, they can pull stuff like this, and hope they get away with it.
Not a problem, if we elect real people, and not empty suits.
No, they can’t. The Constitution only requires a majority of the senators present (provided there is a quorum, of course). Any attempt to require a future Senate to meet some sort of “super majority” is unconstitutional.
No, the lines in the bill are meaningless, but the reality is that it WILL take a supermajority to override Zero’s veto of any repeal. So, they can put in what they want, but as always in politics, it’s only the votes that count.
Republicans are counting on us here to put them back in a leadership position. Unless they start now stating that they will repeal this monster, I will not contribute a nickle to the RNC or vote at all.
This is exactly why they want and need one more appointment by Hussein Obama to the Supreme Court. If they get a majority, this f’ng Congress can do anything they like and the Supremes will stand by their actions. The D’s must be stopped!!
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