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After United 93, Air Travelers React to Threats
WMAL ^ | Dec 26, 2009 | AP

Posted on 12/26/2009 8:11:25 PM PST by HokieMom

DETROIT (AP) -- They heard a pop that sounded like fireworks. They saw a glow of flame followed by a rush of smoke. And that was enough for passengers on Northwest Airlines Flight 253 to pounce.

From several seats away, Dutch tourist Jasper Schuringa says he jumped to extinguish a fire ignited by a quiet man who just moments before allegedly told passengers his stomach was upset and pulled a blanket over himself. Schuringa said his first thought wasn't to signal a flight attendant or wait for an air marshal to break cover, but rather, "He's trying to blow up the plane."

"I basically reacted directly," Schuringa said Saturday in an interview with CNN. "I didn't think. I just jumped. I just went over there and tried to save the plane."

Aviation safety experts once would have called Schuringa's actions a mistake and cautioned passengers against fighting back during hijackings and other crises in the air. That was before the Sept. 11 attacks and the actions of passengers on United Flight 93, who learned while aloft about the hijacked jets that slammed earlier that day into New York's World Trade Center.

They staged a cabin revolt against the al-Qaida terrorists who had taken control of their flight and died when their plane crashed into a field in Shanksville, Pa. But they succeeded in keeping the jet from destroying another building that day, and their story became legend.

"I don't think people are going to sit back and let somebody kill them in the process of fulfilling their extremist agenda or whatever it happens to be," said Dave Heffernan, who helps oversee self-defense training for commercial flight crews at Valenica Community College in Orlando, Fla. "People have talked about it. They've thought about it. They have a plan of action."

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TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: flight253; letsroll; schuringa
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1 posted on 12/26/2009 8:11:26 PM PST by HokieMom
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To: HokieMom

Those passengers where just racist people....I bet Obammy was infuriated that they would attack a brother for no good reason./s


2 posted on 12/26/2009 8:15:42 PM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: HokieMom

Judo neck holds , applied with prejudice


3 posted on 12/26/2009 8:16:20 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: HokieMom

A Christmas Miracle!!


4 posted on 12/26/2009 8:16:33 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: HokieMom

Well done, Jasper and others. Just saw him interviewed on TV with his hand bandaged.


5 posted on 12/26/2009 8:16:59 PM PST by GnuHere
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To: Dallas59

The fellow passengers acted stupidly


6 posted on 12/26/2009 8:17:40 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: Dallas59

But, wait! Weren’t these people supposed to have stopped attacking America once Obama came into office? At least that’s what the MSM told us in so many words. Just ask Chris ‘Tingles’ Matthews.


7 posted on 12/26/2009 8:20:50 PM PST by T Lady (The MSM: Pravda West)
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To: al baby
"The fellow passengers acted stupidly"

How do you know this to be true? You were on board, and saw the whole thing?

9 posted on 12/26/2009 8:23:40 PM PST by InkStone
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To: Dallas59

So when you heroically subdue a terrorist on a plane, do you stop, catch your breath and congratulate each other, or do you start looking for other possible terrorists up and down the aisles?


10 posted on 12/26/2009 8:25:19 PM PST by moroque11
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To: T Lady

Well...we can’t upset Europeans anymore...they’ll protest again. We can’t have that....


11 posted on 12/26/2009 8:26:20 PM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: moroque11

In the World of Obammy? You start looking for a lawyer and hope the Whitey House doesn’t come after you.


12 posted on 12/26/2009 8:27:30 PM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: potlatch

13 posted on 12/26/2009 8:29:47 PM PST by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . woodpile alert - "My muslim faith....." - "Kobe" Osama . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: InkStone; al baby

Wake up and smell the sarcasm.


14 posted on 12/26/2009 8:30:50 PM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: Dallas59

My God, Man! Let’s hope nobody gave him a bloody lip!

That might have been cause for Obama to quit his golf game and give a talk to the American people.


15 posted on 12/26/2009 8:30:59 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: InkStone

Man you need to get up to speed my friend


16 posted on 12/26/2009 8:31:02 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: Eaker

Wow ya think


17 posted on 12/26/2009 8:32:46 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: HokieMom

People have talked about it. They’ve thought about it. They have a plan of action.”>>>>>>>>>>>

Every patriot passenger should wear an extra long leather belt with a large cowboy style buckle, and learn how to use it.


18 posted on 12/26/2009 8:32:51 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: HokieMom

What ever happened to air marshals, anyway.....


19 posted on 12/26/2009 8:33:41 PM PST by clintonh8r (Oath Keeper and Manhattan Declaration signer)
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To: HokieMom
This terrorist should have fallen out of bed.
20 posted on 12/26/2009 8:37:08 PM PST by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: Dallas59
LOL!

When I think of how Matthews and others went on and on during the campaign I literally want to hurl all over my keyboard.

...But I actually did get a bit of schradedfrude when I visited with some members of my extended family on Christmas who were big Obama supporters: They were rather silent on the issue of the crumbling economy and the the Health Care debacle.

What a difference eleven months makes.

21 posted on 12/26/2009 8:40:07 PM PST by T Lady (The MSM: Pravda West)
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To: Morgana

Agreed, if you could get it on board.


24 posted on 12/26/2009 8:44:01 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: InkStone; al baby

Inky...memba Barry’s ‘shout out’ directed at the Cambridge Police Department for arresting his race baiting little prejudiced minion, “Don’t you know who I am” Prof. Henry Gates? Dear Leader, without any ADMITTED knowledge of the actual incident, stated emphatically that the Police acted “stupidly.”

Sarcasm and ridicule of the PC culture that have brought us to the ooint in time where 70 year old Cathoioc nuns (somebody, anybody...has a an elderly Christian woman evern in the entire history of avionics, taken down an airliner???) are routinely searched, and young, stoney eyed men, packing Qurans (and apparently incindiaries) are waved thru.

Well stated irony Al (and that old gasbag is off air til the 4th of Janauary).

;)PM


25 posted on 12/26/2009 8:45:32 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (What's the difference between Santa and Tiger Woods? Santa stops at three ho's...)
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To: Morgana

If it could pass security, you could make a fortune selling them.


27 posted on 12/26/2009 9:06:08 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: HokieMom

Thanks Jasper!


28 posted on 12/26/2009 9:08:02 PM PST by PGalt
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To: HokieMom

You know they are going to spin this one big time with their big lies Rahm keeps in his special lock box. Hillary passed the lock box down to Rahm.


29 posted on 12/26/2009 9:12:58 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: HokieMom

wonder how long before MSM and the pretender at the house claim this is proof that W’s policy on terrorism did not work


30 posted on 12/26/2009 9:21:23 PM PST by Lux-In-Domino
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To: al baby

“The fellow passengers acted stupidly”

Huh? Explain this.


31 posted on 12/26/2009 9:22:09 PM PST by proudofthesouth (We are being governed by a Muzzie illegal alien and a corrupt Congress who no longer work for us.)
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To: HokieMom

“After United 93, Air Travelers React to Threats”

Somebody has to!!!!!!


32 posted on 12/26/2009 9:22:17 PM PST by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: InkStone

“The fellow passengers acted stupidly”

“How do you know this to be true? You were on board, and saw the whole thing?”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm


33 posted on 12/26/2009 9:24:45 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: InkStone

I think it is a comment referring to another incident, no? Think biergarden summit on the east lawn.


34 posted on 12/26/2009 9:25:36 PM PST by healy61
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To: devolve

Wow! Excellent work, devolve.


35 posted on 12/26/2009 9:41:33 PM PST by Balata
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To: proudofthesouth

Hoss, read the rest of the comments, you’ll figure it out.


36 posted on 12/26/2009 10:30:07 PM PST by boocoowell (Nuclear power now!)
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To: T Lady

Yes, what a difference 11 months, bribes, back room deals, cabinet members who don’t pay taxes, etc, etc. My brother-in-law has a lot of voter remorse....I asked him a short time ago how that “Hope and Change” was working out for him. When I meet the Lord, that is one thing I will NOT HAVE TO ANSWER FOR....I and my husband DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA. In fact we were going to vote at all that is until Sarah Palin came on the scene. She is the only reason we voted for McShame.


37 posted on 12/26/2009 10:35:41 PM PST by kagnew
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To: T Lady

Yes, what a difference 11 months, bribes, back room deals, cabinet members who don’t pay taxes, etc, etc make. My brother-in-law has a lot of voter remorse....I asked him a short time ago how that “Hope and Change” was working out for him. When I meet the LORD, that is one thing I will NOT HAVE TO ANSWER FOR....I and my husband DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA. In fact we were not going to vote at all that is until Sarah Palin came on the scene. She is the only reason we voted for McShame.


38 posted on 12/26/2009 10:39:24 PM PST by kagnew
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To: Morgana
From
http://images.quickblogcast.com/5/5/2/4/3/143411-134255/Sept11_c540.jpg

Terrorists versus Passengers

39 posted on 12/26/2009 10:42:47 PM PST by Aroostook25
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To: HokieMom

Bump for later Sunday reading


40 posted on 12/26/2009 10:56:53 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: HokieMom

The failure of our wonderful bureaucratic government is so alarming that it really scares me not just about flying but about the health care system to come. Not even talking about the other bureaucratic nightmares that have occurred and are still occurring - think Fannie and Freddie (and of course our old friend (All poor people should own a home) - Barny Franks)... Yeah, I say let our spasmodic officials control all aspects of our lives...Let’s just get it over with!

Watched both Democrat and Republican senators on Greta’s show - what a load of bull crap! They can’t even pull themselves away from their own self-importance to recognize the problems Greta was trying to discuss.

There could not have been more signs pointing to “terrorist” than this case but hey, these wonderful senators will investigate! Not needed, the airlines have decided that you can not get up during the last hour of flight and darn it, no more blankets for you! Ha, sometimes industry spouts off just like our beloved government. Idiots all!


41 posted on 12/26/2009 11:23:11 PM PST by Deagle
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To: Morgana

Me too. You better bet the next time this happens, there will be another hero to stand up and take the terrorist out too. You can’t rely on the airline employees. They’re the ones letting the terrorist bastards on the plane because they don’t “profile,” remember?

You wait, you lose. People know this.


42 posted on 12/27/2009 12:03:34 AM PST by michigancatholic
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To: InkStone

/s


43 posted on 12/27/2009 2:19:34 AM PST by SouthWall (Obama. The Jimmy Carter of the new century. 2/27/09)
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To: HokieMom

If I’m on one of these planes, I’m going for a HARD KILL on the scumbag!


44 posted on 12/27/2009 2:36:58 AM PST by MrDem (And this is a loyal lifelong Democrat saying this... Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: SuziQ

BTTT


45 posted on 12/27/2009 5:01:00 AM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Ironically, new security restrictions will require passengers to remain in their seats for the last hour of the flight. This would thwart the sort of heroism shown in aborting the recent attack. Instead of the shoes, drinks, etc. airport shenanigans, TSA should adopt Israeli-style Threat Profiling.


46 posted on 12/27/2009 6:42:49 AM PST by sono (AMA's support for Harry Reid's Bill constitutes Physician-Assisted Suicide.)
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To: devolve; HokieMom


47 posted on 12/27/2009 8:25:34 AM PST by potlatch (~~ COGITO ERGO SUM~~)
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To: Morgana

Actually I was just curious about what happened to the program. Wasn’t there supposed to be one on every flight?


48 posted on 12/27/2009 8:55:20 AM PST by clintonh8r (Oath Keeper and Manhattan Declaration signer)
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To: potlatch

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Excellent potlatch -


49 posted on 12/27/2009 10:31:41 AM PST by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . woodpile alert - "My muslim faith....." - "Kobe" Osama . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: HokieMom
Heh, when SirKit told me about this, he was laughing about the fact that the guy burned the 'family jewels'. Brother in Law noted that it would be difficult for the guy to enjoy his 72 virgins if he were sans equipment.;o)
50 posted on 12/27/2009 7:56:29 PM PST by SuziQ
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