Posted on 12/30/2009 1:32:39 PM PST by Colofornian
Yes. Posed as a question, it is not mind reading but tentative.
Ah, an atheist. That clears some things up.
your belief in religion is fantasy. Believe what you can see, not what you have faith in.
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Two points.
1) Faith is different than religion. I am actually opposed to many “religious” practices b/c they can become rote and hollow.
2) Do you believe in air? Can you see it? Taste it? Smell it? What about a thought? Can you see that?
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Pitches in the dirt.
Of course : ) What did you expect, someone who wasn't knowledgeable about religion and the Bible?
I should have said he’s a MINO in my humble opinion.
So reaganaut tricked me into answering that question? [legrand]
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No trickery involved.
Your orig post #65 - knowing that you think reality is fantasy [legrand]
my question #71 - So, tell me “Legrand”, what exactly is the “reality” that I think is fantasy?
The mod responded to your orig post, not your response to my question.
Aren't they all?
2) Do you believe in air? Can you see it? Taste it? Smell it? What about a thought? Can you see that?
Of course I can see air. I can also measure it, break it down into its constituent parts, etc., etc.
A thought? Belief in Despator or Elohim is a thought isn't it? Does that make Despator real?
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Is that your evidence that despator or Allah exists? Really I was hoping for more from you : (
Nope...
KNOW what you can see; have faith in what you can't.
What did you expect, someone who wasn’t knowledgeable about religion and the Bible?
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Very very few Atheists are, they all THINK they are but are not.
You are as I expected.
I should have said he’s a MINO in my humble opinion.
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Aren’t MINO’s usually called “Jack Mormons”? That was at least what we called them.
Aren’t they all?
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NOPE. Goes to show a lack of understanding.
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A thought? Belief in Despator or Elohim is a thought isn’t it?
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Non-belief is a thought also. That does not make God unreal.
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Is that your evidence that despator or Allah exists?
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My belief is based upon years of experience. The quote is an accepted definition of faith for Christians.
And I do not equate “despator” or Allah to Elohim/Jehovah/YHWH. Your equation of them shows your apparent goal.
The attempt at riling me up has failed. I am not thin skinned, if I were I would not be on RF.
G’day Troll.
It has been my experience that seeing and understanding are two entirely different things. Often we only see what we expect to see.
No gentle rebuke? Or does the admonition only apply to atheists? : )
To answer your implied question reaganaut, I have actually read the standard works of all the major religions.
Just a mere denial, with no explanation? Surely you can do better than that.
Non-belief is a thought also. That does not make God unreal.
That wasn't the question. Does a thought make Despator (god) real?
My belief is based upon years of experience. The quote is an accepted definition of faith for Christians.
Much like the Celts, don't you suppose?
And I do not equate “despator” or Allah to Elohim/Jehovah/YHWH. Your equation of them shows your apparent goal.
Yes, I was rather obviously transparent wasn't I? : ) Is not Allah the God of Abraham? The same god worshiped by all the People of the Book? You seem to be big on denials but low on evidence. Do you have any objective evidence that Allah doesn't exist?
The attempt at riling me up has failed. I am not thin skinned, if I were I would not be on RF.
RF? Religious Fundamentalist? No I didn't think you were thin skinned, I don't expect that on an anti Mormon thread. Are you willing to defend your beliefs or do you want to run away?
No gentle rebuke?
I have actually read the standard works of all the major religions.
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It was not directed at you, it was a comment about atheists in general, therefore fair game. :)
Yeah, so? So have I, several times and many in their original languages (I am fluent in several). Point?
Familiarity with the stories does not equal a detailed or scholarly knowledge. That applies to believers as well as non. A knowledge of a religion goes far, far beyond a reading of the “standard works”.
And reading does not equal comprehension. A book knowledge is entirely different from a faith. Christians usually refer to it as a “head” knowledge vs. “heart” knowledge.
RF = RELIGION FORUM
Is not Allah the God of Abraham?
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No. They claim so, but an examination of Islamic theology shows a complete incompatibility.
It's irrelevant whether I deny it or not. You made an accusation about me in the previous post, post 65. Back it up.
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