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Obama's vision of nuclear-free world drawing fire - Obama finds resistence on removing nukes
Houston Chronicle ^ | Dec. 29, 2009, 9:00AM | By PAUL RICHTER McClatchy Tribune

Posted on 12/31/2009 9:12:48 AM PST by a fool in paradise

...Obama's ambitious plan to begin phasing out nuclear weapons has run up against powerful resistance from officials in the Pentagon and other U.S. agencies, posing a threat to one of his most important foreign policy initiatives.

Obama laid out his vision of a nuclear-free world in a speech in Prague in April, vowing the U.S. would take dramatic steps to lead the way. Eight months later, the administration is locked in internal debate...

Officials in the Pentagon and elsewhere have pushed back against administration proposals to cut the number of weapons and narrow their mission....

The debate represents another collision between Obama's administration and key parts of the national security establishment, following earlier scrapes over troop levels in Afghanistan and missile defenses in eastern Europe...

Congress called for the nuclear review, the third such study since the end of the Cold War, and placed the Pentagon in charge. Similar reviews were conducted near the beginning of both the Clinton and the Bush administrations, but Obama's is the first in which substantial changes stand to be made both in the number of U.S. nuclear weapons and how they are used.

The government maintains an estimated 9,400 nuclear weapons, about 1,000 fewer than in 2002. But Obama believes that stepping up efforts to reduce the stockpile will give U.S. officials added credibility...

The timing of the administration debate is crucial, because a key international meeting on the treaty is planned for May in New York. Also looming next year are other elements of Obama's nuclear agenda, including renewal of an arms reduction treaty with Russia and a push for Senate ratification of a global ban on nuclear testing...

...was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in part because of expectations that he would make good on his pledge to reduce the nuclear threat...

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 1term; appeasement; armsrace; coldwarii; commanderinchief; commiesympathizer; coward; nonukes; obamalegacy; reddiaperdoperbaby; surrender; treason; usefulidiot; whiteflag

1 posted on 12/31/2009 9:12:50 AM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: a fool in paradise

The President certainly has a community organizers understanding of the nuclear issue.


2 posted on 12/31/2009 9:14:27 AM PST by dartuser ("Palin 2012 ... nothing else will do.")
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To: a fool in paradise

Just part of his vision of an America free world.


3 posted on 12/31/2009 9:15:07 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: a fool in paradise

What a moron. The inmates are running the asylum.


4 posted on 12/31/2009 9:15:36 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: a fool in paradise
Nuclear weapons are the only thing that makes national defense affordable. This jerk wants a standing army capable of enslaving the nation.
5 posted on 12/31/2009 9:16:38 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Plant. The guy's a plant.

Krushchev, bury you


6 posted on 12/31/2009 9:17:09 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: a fool in paradise

This is inane. It’s like trying to get rid of toasters or freezers.

When it comes to nuclear weps, the cat’s WAY out of the bag, and won’t be seen again.


7 posted on 12/31/2009 9:17:15 AM PST by RexBeach ("Those are my principles...if you don't like them, I have others." Groucho Marx)
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To: a fool in paradise

Obama, the first two-year-old president. Obama’s world-view and political philosophy: Life is like a playground.

Maybe we should all wear party hats too! And can we have a piñata? Please???


8 posted on 12/31/2009 9:18:53 AM PST by Juan Medén
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To: a fool in paradise

Looks like much of Washington isn’t yet ready to put up the KICK ME sign.


9 posted on 12/31/2009 9:18:58 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: a fool in paradise

What else would you expect of the Social Worker in Chief?
Incompetence and arrogance is running rampant in the White House.


10 posted on 12/31/2009 9:20:31 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Hoax and Chains is not the same as hope and change.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Regarding your handle: if this is paradise, it’s one nasty surprise!

Regarding Hussein: how can we STOP him? All ideas welcome.


11 posted on 12/31/2009 9:20:37 AM PST by JohnQ1 ("(BHO) can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know." - A Lincoln)
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To: a fool in paradise

Oh great disarm us so we can’t protect ourselves that’s brilliant. Maybe we should give the chicoms all our weapons so they’ll love us more. Will some one please tell these people its not the 1960s.


12 posted on 12/31/2009 9:20:45 AM PST by rstark56
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To: Juan Medén

“can we have a piñata? Please???”

It seems that they are enjoying the USA being the piñata.


13 posted on 12/31/2009 9:22:04 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: a fool in paradise

I believe Sargosy straight out told Obama that we don’t live in a virtual world. In other words, he called him an -———.


14 posted on 12/31/2009 9:22:17 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Soothesayer
Don't forget that Sec. of State Madelyn Albright said that she didn't want to live in a world where America was the lone superpower.

Naked treason.

The Stalinists in our midst scoffed at Senator Joe McCarthy and Roy Cohn when they suggested that there were communist sympathizers within the State Department and even in the US military.

The Left has long known that they can use the powers of unelected offices to dismantle the well-being of this nation.

Now a red diaper doper baby sits in the White House determined to do all of the damage he can do, through the courts and executive orders.

His “pledge” in Prague was boasting of something he does have the power to do. But then he is an usurper. He's said that he sees the Constitution as an obstacle, something that limits the powers of government keeping him (and others) from doing what they want to do. He mentioned in that interview how some of the restrictions in the Constitution can be challenged through the courts (judicial tyranny).

Kneecapping this nation will not result in a safer world, Barry.

15 posted on 12/31/2009 9:22:48 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: JohnQ1

Legal challenges. He is not serving in his capacity as Commander in Chief. He is not upholding his oath to protect and secure this nation.

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”


16 posted on 12/31/2009 9:26:17 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Significant resistance is likely coming from game theory analysts who have run all the plausible scenarios through software and found that the Obamassiah's "vision" is foolish, destabilizing, and suicidal for the US.

Gut intuition says it is suicidal, but game analysts rely on more objective measures and evidence.

17 posted on 12/31/2009 9:27:38 AM PST by behzinlea
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To: a fool in paradise

Any of you a**holes that elected this clown are to blame for the mess we’re in. You elected the Kenyan village idiot, gave him the keys to the car and a bottle of booze and hoped for the best. Many thanks for screwing all of us, you morons.


18 posted on 12/31/2009 9:28:43 AM PST by dumpthelibs (dumpthelibs)
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To: a fool in paradise
"The government maintains an estimated 9,400 nuclear weapons, about 1,000 fewer than in 2002. But Obama believes that stepping up efforts to reduce the stockpile will give U.S. officials added credibility..."

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the sign of a deranged mind. We have "credibility" BECAUSE of our strategic forces.

19 posted on 12/31/2009 9:30:24 AM PST by Mariner
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To: a fool in paradise

Stupid liberals. Removing nukes will not work unless every single nuke on the planet plus the technology to make them is destroyed.

Pie-in-the-sky utopian ideals don’t work very well in the real world. I wish the libs could understand that simple fact.


20 posted on 12/31/2009 9:30:30 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Bush at his worst was still better than Obama at his best.)
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To: dumpthelibs

Obama and his ilk think they can disagm us via neglect of our nuclear arsenal and research capacity.
We should be developing better nucs for special use..bunkers, EMP, Neutron, but no..we will let the Chinese get way ahead of us on those features, helped by Chinese spies.


21 posted on 12/31/2009 9:31:40 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: a fool in paradise

Doe anyone know if the U.S. military has the option of refusing an order from the CIC if it endangers the U.S Security.


22 posted on 12/31/2009 9:33:18 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Mariner

If this is such a KEY agenda item for him and something he reportedly pledged in his 2008 scampaign, why wasn’t there a single debate question about his plan to erridate America’s nuclear arsenal?

Oh that’s right, the liberals ran the show, there was no conservative led debate. I say seat a debate panel as you would a jury panel, both “teams” choose and reject persons for the “bench”.


23 posted on 12/31/2009 9:43:53 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I wonder if the “new” offensive weapons of the Russians will be nuclear? Obama probably thinks they are just big cherry bombs!


24 posted on 12/31/2009 9:46:07 AM PST by PORD (People...Of Right Do!)
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To: JohnQ1

Somebody in the CIA or FBI or another government organization or even the Mossad has to have info on Barry’s background. I fervently hope that some Patriot will release this info sooner rather than later.


25 posted on 12/31/2009 9:47:42 AM PST by Montanabound
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To: a fool in paradise
Obama's ambitious plan to begin phasing out nuclear weapons has run up against powerful resistance from officials in the Pentagon and other U.S. agencies, posing a threat to one of his most important foreign policy initiatives.

I dont get it. If Superman was able to do it in Superman IV, then why cant Obama?

26 posted on 12/31/2009 9:49:21 AM PST by lowbridge ("We may be wrong, but the point is, we believe in what we're doing." - Joe Biden)
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To: Marty62

27 posted on 12/31/2009 9:54:01 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Dark Wing

ping


28 posted on 12/31/2009 9:54:17 AM PST by Thud
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To: a fool in paradise; Marty62
From "Seven Days In May":

General James Mattoon Scott: I think the signing of a nuclear disarmament pact with the Soviet Union is at best an act of naÔvetÈ, and at worst an unsupportable negligence. We've stayed alive because we've built up an arsenal, and we've kept the peace because we've dealt with an enemy who knew we would use that arsenal. And now we're asked to believe that a piece of paper will take the place of missile sites and Polaris submarines, and that an enemy who hasn't honored one solemn treaty in the history of its existence will now, for our convenience, do precisely that. I have strong doubts, gentlemen.

General James Mattoon Scott: And if you want to talk about your oath of office, I'm here to tell you face to face, President Lyman, that you violated that oath when you stripped this country of its muscles - when you deliberately played upon the fear and fatigue of the people and told them they could remove that fear by the stroke of a pen. And then when this nation rejected you, lost faith in you, and began militantly to oppose you, you violated that oath by not resigning from office and turning the country over to someone who could represent the people of the United States.

29 posted on 12/31/2009 9:58:05 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: a fool in paradise

The idiot-in-chief is going to get us all killed.


30 posted on 12/31/2009 10:05:51 AM PST by sneakers
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To: buccaneer81

Wow, I remember that scene.
I hope it is not fiction but the actual fact in this present day of danger to the Republic.


31 posted on 12/31/2009 10:17:32 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Marty62

I fear it’s about to be true. We need a strong resistance to begin now.


32 posted on 12/31/2009 10:23:59 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: a fool in paradise
Has Bammi been receiving nuke consultations from the great expert, Amy Carter?
33 posted on 12/31/2009 10:26:08 AM PST by JPG (Al Gore, the several million degree man.)
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To: lowbridge

Superman went on two dates with two different women at the same time in Superman IV as well.


34 posted on 12/31/2009 10:26:57 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Everyone else wants BHO to phase out OUR nukes. And BHO stands with just about anyone else.


35 posted on 12/31/2009 11:16:12 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

He’s a red diaper doper baby who was not raised in this country. He has no love for America. Plain to see.


36 posted on 12/31/2009 11:17:08 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Just wanted to get my daily quote in: “Obama is the worst president in history”, there my deed is done for the day.


37 posted on 12/31/2009 11:17:53 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache

Miserable Failure


38 posted on 12/31/2009 11:19:24 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Proliferation is exploding under this jack squat of a Barry administration but yeah, lets dump all our nukes cause no doubt, we will all be safer under this defunct joke of an administration........not.
39 posted on 12/31/2009 11:45:30 AM PST by cranked
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To: a fool in paradise
...has run up against powerful resistance from officials in the Pentagon

I.e., he has already issued...without any Congressional oversight disclosures or hearings,... some Executive Orders to dismantle our deterrent arsenal...and been confronted by those who are unwilling to recognize clearly treasonous orders as legitimate.

40 posted on 12/31/2009 12:57:10 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: a fool in paradise
The timing of the administration debate is crucial,

What debate? This despot doesn't need no 'stinkin debate. Remember how much "debate" he allowed over his auto industry takeover? His Stimulus bill? His health care takeover? And remember his position on AGW, how the time for "debate is over" as the "science is in..."

And what debate on Copenhagen? Note how Gibbs called concluding that Mann's fraudulence implicated further that the support for AGW was weak, "silly". Well for those who actually read and know about science, a lot of it is in, but it does not support the marxists for concluding in AGW. And Obama does not appear to be interested in hearing about the science...or any debate...on anything for that matter. He is a Marxist leftist...and leftists don't want to be bothered with facts, their minds are made up.

Just like it is about nuclear defense. He made up his mind that missile defense was a waste, so he has been slashing it. He made up his mind that we are to blame somehow for all the other people in the world seeking nukes, and if we just go naked...well...we will encourage them to do the right thing.

What they will do, and promptly after our deterrent is gone, is nuke us.

But of course, in Obama's view...we deserve it.

And as for that "oathe of office thing" that is just for kids.

41 posted on 12/31/2009 1:12:21 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/02/AR2007080202288.html

Clinton Demurs On Obama’s Nuclear Stance
She Says It Is Unwise to Rule Out Using the Arms Against Terrorists
By Anne E. Kornblut
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, August 3, 2007

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton drew another distinction between herself and Sen. Barack Obama yesterday, refusing to rule out the use of nuclear weapons against Osama bin Laden or other terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Clinton’s comments came in response to Obama’s remarks earlier in the day that nuclear weapons are “not on the table” in dealing with ungoverned territories in the two countries, and they continued a steady tug of war among the Democratic presidential candidates over foreign policy.


42 posted on 12/31/2009 1:18:05 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Just BS the world into believing we have reduced the number of missiles Obama...the same way you BS the world into believing your economic recovery package was effective.


43 posted on 12/31/2009 1:23:23 PM PST by RC one
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To: RC one

It’s a religion to him to see the US disarmed. We have to maintain our nuclear arsenal. One way to downsize is to let the numbers dwindle through atrophy.


44 posted on 12/31/2009 1:27:34 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: a fool in paradise
You wanna watch a liberal's head explode? Throw something along the lines of this into the nuclear disarmament debate: "nuclear weapons have saved more lives than penicillin" (that always sucks them in to the argument). Then, you lay this on the poor fools: "what was the world doing before there were nuclear weapons?" Oh that's right, they were waging total global war which was resulting in the detahs of countless millions of people. Now, what has the world not been doing after the introduction of nuclear weapons? Waging war total global war which would otherwise be resulting in the deaths of countless millions of people. You see, nuclear weapons ended total world war and; therefore, have saved hundreds of millions of lives. Then stand back a good safe distance and watch the head explode. liberals head exploding after realizing that his political belief system is false just like the conservatives have been saying for all those years.
45 posted on 12/31/2009 4:02:22 PM PST by RC one
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To: a fool in paradise; Thud

And Democrats wonder why people think they are weak on defense.


46 posted on 12/31/2009 4:08:06 PM PST by Dark Wing
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To: Montanabound

Great thought. The formerly mainstream media will deny any embarrassing truth, but I’d still like to know it.

Good luck relocating. Wish we could join you. Too many responsibilities.

Gotta go to supper. Take care.


47 posted on 12/31/2009 5:03:06 PM PST by JohnQ1 ("(BHO) can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know." - A Lincoln)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Thanks a fool in paradise.
...from officials in the Pentagon and other U.S. agencies, posing a threat to one of his most important foreign policy initiatives... Congress called for the nuclear review, the third such study since the end of the Cold War, and placed the Pentagon in charge. Similar reviews were conducted near the beginning of both the Clinton and the Bush administrations, but Obama's is the first in which substantial changes stand to be made both in the number of U.S. nuclear weapons and how they are used. The government maintains an estimated 9,400 nuclear weapons, about 1,000 fewer than in 2002.
Damn that warmonger Bush! ;') I loved this -- "one of his most important foreign policy initiatives" -- the only things in that category were things entirely in his control, such as stopping missile defense deployments in former Warsaw Pact countries which are now US allies, and that was something that hadn't yet happened.
48 posted on 01/01/2010 8:12:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year!)
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