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KC school district has about 1,000 employees too many, official says
Kansas City Star ^ | December 6th | JOE ROBERTSON

Posted on 01/01/2010 3:42:33 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

After a stormy summer in which the Kansas City School District shed more than 500 employees, its remade human resources department faces another huge task.

With about 3,300 employees, the district still has about 1,000 more people than most districts with enrollments of about 17,000 students, said Steve Harris, the new assistant superintendent for human resources.

“We’re way out of sync,” Harris said. “We want to try to get as close as we can for the next school year.”

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: administration; arth; detroit; gammonslaw; kansascity; maxgammon; unions
The Theory of Bureaucratic Displacement doesn't just hit healthcare. It affects education as well.

RUSH: This is from the Kansas City Scar newspaper today. "KC School District Has About 1,000 Employees Too Many," and this is after they cut 500. "After a stormy summer in which the Kansas City School District shed more than 500 employees, its remade human resources department faces another huge task. With about 3,300 employees, the district still has about 1,000 more people than most districts with enrollments of about 17,000 students, said Steve Harris, the new assistant superintendent for human resources." That means that they had a bureaucrat for every four students. We ran the math here, 3,800 state education employees, divided by 17,000 students, equals 4.47 students to each employee. And yet when we hear about the need for cuts, what do we always hear? "We have to cut teachers. We have to cut textbooks. We have to cut all kinds of horrible, horrible things."

1 posted on 01/01/2010 3:42:34 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

3,300 for a total student population of 17K?

Colleges do more with less, much less grade schools...


2 posted on 01/01/2010 3:48:59 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; holdonnow

Unions baby!!! The suckage of the KCMO School District is epic.


3 posted on 01/01/2010 3:50:30 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

We have a society in which large numbers of adults live off children. That is something new.


4 posted on 01/01/2010 3:51:08 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

that’s nothing. they have about 30,000 too many voters.


5 posted on 01/01/2010 3:57:01 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: bamahead

The Government Schools show the ineffiency of beauracratic government, which should give the Libertarian ping list reason to post, “We told them so!”


6 posted on 01/01/2010 3:57:45 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Teachers Union Exposed

In Missouri, after 5 years, public school teachers receive what's commonly called "tenure," a special employment protection that teachers unions defend. As the below federal statistics indicate, teachers with just a couple years of experience are practically impossible to fire.

Kansas City, MO School District, Teachers resume salary talks

Sep. 25 -- The Kansas City School District and its teachers union resume salary negotiations Monday, amid signs that the two are headed for rockier relations.

In recent years the district and the union have had relatively smooth dealings. That changed Tuesday when more than 150 members of the Kansas City Federation of Teachers marched outside district offices complaining of low pay, lost paychecks, students without schedules and other opening-of-school glitches.

7 posted on 01/01/2010 3:58:44 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: metmom; Tired of Taxes; wintertime; JenB
“With about 3,300 employees, the district still has about 1,000 more people than most districts with enrollments of about 17,000 students, said Steve Harris, the new assistant superintendent for human resources.”

Expensive, bloated bureaucracies. This is yet another reason to homeschool, don't you agree?

8 posted on 01/01/2010 3:59:16 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

“...but 120 teachers and 98 support staff were involuntarily let go.”
If the job of schools is to teach why is that the first to get canned are the teachers. They always keep the clerks, and counselors and admin assistants and can the teachers.
Oh, I get it. They are putting the screws to the taxpayers. Just like the first govt employees to get the axe are firemen and cops or they make cuts in the defense dept.


9 posted on 01/01/2010 4:02:50 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: MamaDearest

There you go! They are non productive feather merchants. They could fire 1000 tenured teachers at random and not make that school system a lot worse.


10 posted on 01/01/2010 4:04:30 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Brugmansian
We have a society in which large numbers of adults live off children.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Good way to put it.

In my county the government schools are the biggest single employer in the county. No other business comes close in budgets, expenditures, or number of employees. Now...Add to that the vendors to the government schools and their employees. Even my dentist with his 5 employees depends upon government school dental insurance to keep his office running.

So?....With all these people sitting in the pews of our “Christian” churches how many of these churches are going to do what is right and open private schools ( tuition charging or tuition-free)? In reality, few ministers will bite the hand putting money in the collection plate. These weenies would rather have kids sent off to the atheistic Marxist indoctrination camps every day and soothe their consciences by sprinkling the kids with a little religion once or twice a week.

Marxism is our nation's **most** urgent and serious threat. Government schools are the Marxists’ **most** powerful weapon. And...NO! Our churches will NOT do much about it. We as conservatives must first recognize the threat to our nation, and open tuition-free conservative schools without expecting much help from the churches.

11 posted on 01/01/2010 4:05:09 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Clintonfatigued

Wasn’t KC the school district where a (Federal?) judge order them to spend like $200M upgrading their schools. Think that was back in the 80s. Anyway, they built these brand new facilities and modernized their curriculum and guess what?? It made absolutely no difference in test scores or acheivement. Taxes sure went up though.


12 posted on 01/01/2010 4:05:38 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: freedumb2003

Good grief, the district I work for has twice as many students and 3,500 employees..and I think my district is inefficient.


13 posted on 01/01/2010 4:05:43 PM PST by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: rbg81

“Wasn’t KC the school district where a (Federal?) judge order them to spend like $200M upgrading their schools. Think that was back in the 80s. Anyway, they built these brand new facilities and modernized their curriculum and guess what?? It made absolutely no difference in test scores or acheivement. Taxes sure went up though.”

That was because they were given tons of money to “desegregate” the schools, thanks to an idiot judge. Smaller districts have continued to suffer because KC got the money.

Some where in my files I have a print out of the waste that “desegregation” brought about. I’ll refrain from stating my opinion about that, it would be “racist”.


14 posted on 01/01/2010 4:11:32 PM PST by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: rbg81

I think $200 MM is a gross underestimate. I believe it was over a billion the judge ordered for the KC schools.


15 posted on 01/01/2010 4:19:30 PM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

It WAS a Billion....I remmeber it distinctly!!


16 posted on 01/01/2010 4:21:44 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: swmobuffalo

“Wasn’t KC the school district where a (Federal?) judge order them to spend like $200M upgrading their schools. Think that was back in the 80s. Anyway, they built these brand new facilities and modernized their curriculum and guess what?? It made absolutely no difference in test scores or acheivement. Taxes sure went up though.”

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Yep, the Superintendent was Dr. Ronald Epps (sp?). He was hired by Rockford Dist 205 in Illinois after their desegregation lawsuit. I graduated from East High RPS 205 in 1990 right at the start of the suit. Didn’t think the schools could get worse, but he proved me wrong. We spent over $350 million and it did nothing. We got our schools back under board control about 10 years ago.

I’m a teacher now in the district and can tell you he divided our town like it was a civil war. At the end almost everyone hated the man; his name is still synonymous with division and incompetence.

By the way folks, you can’t fire councilors, homeless outreach advocates, special education administrators, diversity administrators, and the like. Many states have laws preventing them from being canned. That leaves the teachers. One bad teacher can cause problems in a building. However, it takes just one idiot administrator to screw-up a building or school district.


17 posted on 01/01/2010 4:31:15 PM PST by Martel1971
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To: Ann Archy

I spent a summer in KC when this whole debacle was at its peak. They built these spanking new schools with expensive amenities from Olympic size swimming pools, offering exotic cirriculum from Latin, to sports, etc. They had this huge advertising campaign to convince whitie to send their kids to these schools. It was big failure.


18 posted on 01/01/2010 5:01:01 PM PST by C19fan
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To: MamaDearest
This has very little to do with teachers.

The extra employees are the hoards of nigh-useless Affirmative Action layabouts that infest every big city Dept. of Ed. Check your school board's Maintenance, Transportation, and food service personnel. Then check the office staff. In fact, check EVERY PAID, non-classroom position. If more than a third of those people are mission-critical, I'll buy each of them a malt liquor.

You want to see how to run an administration of a school district, check your local parochial school network. 5 times the result on a tenth the budget per student.

19 posted on 01/01/2010 5:49:59 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

First, get rid of all the PC positions, the equal opportunity specialists, the ones who teach “tolerance” (a.k.a., intolerance towards those who have principles), etc.


20 posted on 01/01/2010 5:50:56 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The new Superintentent (the latest in a long list of losers) directed that everyone on the payroll would have to appear in person to collect his/her paycheck so that the District could validate who was actually drawing a paycheck.

The uproar that ensued could be heard way out here in rural Leavenworth County. Stuck pigs have never squealed so loud. The gall, the audacity, the racism. To demand that employees of the School District actually have to make an appearance and demonstrate that they are a living, breathing, human being. I think that you could easily eliminate 1000 employees without seeing any effect on the number of employees who actually show up for work in the District.


21 posted on 01/01/2010 5:51:35 PM PST by centurion316
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To: 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; AngieGal; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

22 posted on 01/01/2010 6:09:14 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Exactly


23 posted on 01/02/2010 7:19:44 AM PST by Mac from Cleveland ("See what you made me do?" Major Malik Hasan)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Affirmative Action, baby.

Northeast Middle School- 13.5% white

Central Middle School- 96.6% black

24 posted on 01/02/2010 7:29:59 AM PST by seemoAR (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bull.)
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