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When Did Your County's Jobs Disappear? (Interactive map of vanishing employment across the country)
Slate ^ | 12/30/2009 | Chris Wilson

Posted on 01/03/2010 12:27:50 PM PST by Kid Shelleen

The economic crisis, which has claimed more than 5 million jobs since the recession began, did not strike the entire country at once. A map of employment gains or losses by county tells the story of how those job losses first struck in the most vulnerable regions and then spread rapidly to the rest of the country. As early as August 2007, for example—several months before the recession officially began—jobs were already on the decline in southwest Florida; Orange County, Calif.; much of New Jersey; and Detroit, while other areas of the country remained on the uptick.

PRINT DISCUSS E-MAIL RSS RECOMMEND... SINGLE PAGE Yahoo! Buzz FacebookMySpace Mixx Digg Reddit del.icio.us Furl Ma.gnolia SphereStumbleUponCLOSEUsing the Labor Department's local area unemployment statistics, Slate presents the recession as told by unemployment numbers for each county in America

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2009review; bho44; bhoeconomy; layoffs

1 posted on 01/03/2010 12:27:53 PM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: rabscuttle385

** PING *** Make sure you click on the map !!!


2 posted on 01/03/2010 12:29:10 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Keep your socialized health care off my body !!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Putting the map in motion looks like a cancer growing from late 2008 through 2009.


3 posted on 01/03/2010 12:33:45 PM PST by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: NautiNurse

It wont go in motion here. 2 Million gain and 30 millon loss?


4 posted on 01/03/2010 12:34:33 PM PST by Concho
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To: Kid Shelleen

Interesting. It shows that Bexar County, Texas has gained 14,251 jobs since 01/06, but I lost my job 12/09 along with many others.


5 posted on 01/03/2010 12:38:00 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Concho

Try clicking on it again. I had to try it a couple of times.


6 posted on 01/03/2010 12:39:42 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Keep your socialized health care off my body !!)
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To: Concho

The map indicates 6,162,836 jobs lost nationwide since October 2008.


7 posted on 01/03/2010 12:39:56 PM PST by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: Kid Shelleen

“As early as August 2007, for example—several months before the recession officially began—jobs were already on the decline”

Bush’s Fault!


8 posted on 01/03/2010 12:40:51 PM PST by howlinhound
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To: Kid Shelleen

August 2007 = Bush’s Fault! (It is Slate.com after all)


9 posted on 01/03/2010 12:42:01 PM PST by howlinhound
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To: Kid Shelleen

I thought for a long time that part of the recession started in FL, due to a massive rise in Homeowner’s insurance.

Back in about 2003 suddenly the jump was huge, from about $600 for me to $2400 (This on a very small, inexpensive house not near the ocean.) I heard horror tales of places like churches jumping from 8K to 60K. It was something of a crisis, and people were jumping off cliffs here.

It wasn’t really from the hurricanes; it was more the sinkholes that were almost a scam. You could end up with more than the value of your house if your found one; People would actually look for one and rejoice if they found one. There were big billboards all over from attorneys who specialized in recovering from ins for sinkholes.

In any case, I remember at the time I sold my house, because I told my friends people are going to stop buying down here. In fact, I was so convinced of this I sold on the cheap side just to get rid of it very fast even though housing was at record highs. Why come to FL to escape taxes when your insurance was equivalent? It was like another major tax.

The house market plummeted at that time and I always thought insurance was the spark. FL is so dependent on the construction industry it followed soon after.


10 posted on 01/03/2010 12:42:03 PM PST by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: Kid Shelleen
The decline was coming, no matter what. I recognize that.

However, the thing that has always jumped out at me is that by August of 2008 it really became obvious that Obama was going to beat McCain. The conventions were over, and McCain didn't have it.

And all across the country, businesses started hunkering down, cutting the fat, and getting ready for 4 lean years. It all started accelerating as soon people knew that Obama was going to be president.

11 posted on 01/03/2010 12:44:26 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Excellent post


12 posted on 01/03/2010 12:46:34 PM PST by gibtx2 (End Tenure)
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To: Kid Shelleen

That’s quite interesting.

Democrats swept the congress in Nov 2006. Therefore, the budget until Oct 2007 was a Republican budget.

Only one month (Aug, 2007) before the budget went completely Democrat reflected annual job gains of less than 1 million.

Only one month (Apr, 2008) after the 100% Democrat budget took effect showed job gains of over 1 million. Only ten months after the switch to a Democrat budget, job losses started. And those job losses are way larger than any of the previous job gains.

We need to keep hammering the fact that it is congress, not the president, that controls the purse strings. And that congress has a lot of ways to push the president into cooperating with their budget.


13 posted on 01/03/2010 12:47:19 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

bttt


14 posted on 01/03/2010 12:49:04 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

This map proves what I’ve contended all along. The Dems poisoned the pond to get 0bama elected, and their socialist programs pushed through.

Somewhere, there is a detailed matrix showing what needed to be done in order to cause the downfall and the, then, (un)necessary stimulus to be passed.

/Um, does this tin foil hat make me look phat?


15 posted on 01/03/2010 12:53:16 PM PST by papasmurf (You betcha!)
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To: Kid Shelleen
They just raised my neighbors property tax and tacked another $300 on to the mortgage. She called the county to ask whay and they said they need to keep up revenue in order to provide services. The husband just got cut back at his trucking job due to sales slump and she just got cut back at her teaching job Federal economic policy is causing the economy to implode like a sinkhole and is even effecting local and state government

Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Hillary etc studied the Alinsky strategy to conquer capitalism and wrestle the flow of money from the private sector into government control.

Every time someone loses a job the liberal politicians get a big thrill because they just got another dependent to control.

the only problem with the economy is our government

16 posted on 01/03/2010 12:56:45 PM PST by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: NautiNurse

I can read what the map says, but I also know very well a number of those counties and the numbers that are given there are not close to being accurate. SW Kansas has had to shut down operations of a number of the beef packing meat processing plants. The actual numbers for those counties are about 10x what is shown on this map. So, if these numbers are not accurate, then why would the others not be under reported?

None-the-less, Six million jobs lost...but the news just reported 20 million now on unemplyment? Who are you gonna believe, especially since all those who were self employed are not eligible for unemployment?


17 posted on 01/03/2010 1:01:28 PM PST by Concho
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To: ClearCase_guy
"And all across the country, businesses started hunkering down, cutting the fat, and getting ready for 4 lean years. It all started accelerating as soon people knew that Obama was going to be president. "

the 20 million a year company I work for just shrunk to 5 million , The owner said that 300 private capital investor projects on the books pulled out and hunkered down starting in sept 08, the only thing going is previously started government funded projects and two mega hospitals .

18 posted on 01/03/2010 1:04:55 PM PST by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Interesting! It really highlights where the trouble spots have been all aong.

But how can we have more jobs lost since 10-2008 than from the year before, when there’s been loss overall that entire time? Maybe it means “as of” that date, not “since” that date?


19 posted on 01/03/2010 1:05:06 PM PST by ElayneJ
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To: Concho
Who are you gonna believe, especially since all those who were self employed are not eligible for unemployment?

I can't get unemployment because I am getting an average of about 6-8 hours a week , not enough to pay bills taxes and food but more than unemployment

20 posted on 01/03/2010 1:08:00 PM PST by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Definately the hope and change is working.


21 posted on 01/03/2010 1:11:14 PM PST by Pheadrus427
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To: Concho

There could be some delays in how the data is reported but listen the the music not just the words. The depiction of the trend here and the massive nature of the problem are the point of the animation.

Government can not get us out of this. Only free enterprise can. So that’s good news, but we’re probably going to have to endure a lot more bad news before we get things going the right direction again.


22 posted on 01/03/2010 1:12:34 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Kid Shelleen
Would be interesting to see the loss of jobs by state and time and the increase of jobs by country and time in Asia.

I'm now working for a company that's doing very well financially (no debt, vast cash reserves) and instead of increasing the American workforce, they are doing most new hiring in India.

Former company bought and sold a few times, used to be a cash generating machine, but with all the changes now loses money. American IT workforce (middle class)completely replaced by Indian workers - to my knowledge, involving at least 500 jobs formerly held in the USA (company is retail USA, sells nothing overseas). Not to mention any new hiring is done outside the USA.

It's like the 'perfect storm' with the greedy financial deals including the mortgage scams and the 'leveling' of the playing field with the 'global economy' replacing American workers with foreign workers. It's really greedy and short sighted and as a country we need to wake up before it gets even worse and not fixable. But we like those 'cheap' throwaway goods, nice returns on our 401k's and the $$$ that exchanges hands within our own government. Especially love those big Asian loans!

I especially get a big kick out of companies supposedly looking ahead to the next middle class consumers in other countries - needed to purchase their products - but they don't pay them enough to ever reproduce what American consumers can and did purchase.

Very short sighted and stupid, the whole thing. I'm disgusted.

23 posted on 01/03/2010 1:15:13 PM PST by american colleen
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To: Concho
Howdy Concho. What's up in Texas county, OK? Is that all hog farms and packing in Guyman or is a lot of that actually people formerly employed in Liberal, Ks at the trailer plant and Nat. Packing??
Worked in KS but filed in OK?
24 posted on 01/03/2010 1:17:28 PM PST by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I feel ill.


25 posted on 01/03/2010 1:37:00 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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Ping


26 posted on 01/03/2010 1:48:29 PM PST by Britt0n
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To: Kid Shelleen

Notice how Washington DC is turning blue again on the map.


27 posted on 01/03/2010 1:51:22 PM PST by joinedafterattack
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To: Dust in the Wind

Nasty Beef and the plants in Garden and Dodge are down to about half operation now because of the price of meat and the lack of demand. Last I heard, Nasty was running just 2 shifts, like 5 days a week..... Seaboard at Guymon took it on the chin with that swine flu crap, they are only doing about half of what they were.

The trailer plant cost about 20 jobs, the big loss is with the hog farms and packing houses. Each of the packing houses laid off about 1500 people. Take that times 4 and you have a whole lot more than the 500 that was reported.

Haliburton is advertising for help, but it is so narrowly defined that you would have had to work for Haliburton for 10 years previously in order to qualify.

The Guymon numbers are probably close, but the Liberal and Garden and Dodge City numbers are way way low. Or maybe they dont count the illegal aliens they gave the boot to that went somewhere else.


28 posted on 01/03/2010 2:23:25 PM PST by Concho
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To: Kid Shelleen; All
I thought I would put down the numbers that showed up in this graph, so it would be easy to see here, on Free Republic. I'm using their numbers that they've gathered from public information from the government, along with the dates.

These numbers are not necessarily accumulative for each month, but stand for the total numbers during that particular one-year period of time. It's a "sliding one-year picture" of what's happening with the overall gains and losses here.

And then, also, I've put in the "Amount of Change" from the one-year rolling numbers -- to the following month and its one-year rolling numbers. The "Amount of Change" shows which way things are going, either up or down.



-- From 2006 to 2007

Amt Change     Numbers Gain/Loss      One-year Period running

-- Bush Administration (blue is "gain" and red is "loss") --
[   xxx,xxx]  2,625,193 jobs gained (from January 2006 to January 2007)
[-  298,315]  2,326,878 jobs gained (from February 2006 to February 2007)
[+   70,059]  2,396,937 jobs gained (from March 2006 to March 2007)
[-  652,634]  1,744,303 jobs gained (from April 2006 to April 2007)
[-   76,451]  1,667,852 jobs gained (from May 2006 to May 2007)
[-   83,174]  1,584,678 jobs gained (from June 2006 to June 2007)
[-   43,030]  1,541,648 jobs gained (from July 2006 to July 2007)
[-  689,269]    852,379 jobs gained (from August 2006 to August 2007)
[+  406,589]  1,258,968 jobs gained (from September 2006 to September 2007)
[-  831,750]    427,218 jobs gained (from October 2006 to October 2007)
[+  475,364]    902,582 jobs gained (from November 2006 to November 2007)
[-  866,785]     35,797 jobs gained (from December 2006 to December 2007)



-- From 2007 to 2008

Amt Change     Numbers Gain/Loss      One-year Period running

-- Bush Administration (blue is "gain" and red is "loss") --
[+  730,616]    766,413 jobs gained (from January 2007 to January 2008)
[-  282,854]    483,559 jobs gained (from February 2007 to February 2008)
[-  290,723]    192,836 jobs gained (from March 2007 to March 2008)
[+  835,152]  1,027,988 jobs gained (from April 2007 to April 2008)
[-  564,156]    463,832 jobs gained (from May 2007 to May 2008)
[-  365,996]     97,836 jobs gained (from June 2007 to June 2008)
[-  142,705]     44,869 jobs lost   (from July 2007 to July 2008)
[-   44,384]     89,253 jobs lost   (from August 2007 to August 2008)
[-  640,611]    729,864 jobs lost   (from September 2007 to September 2008)
[-   62,975]    792,839 jobs lost   (from October 2007 to October 2008)
[-1,312,591]  2,105,430 jobs lost   (from November 2007 to November 2008)
[-  475,884]  2,581,314 jobs lost   (from December 2007 to December 2008)



-- From 2008 to 2009

Amt Change     Numbers Gain/Loss      One-year Period running

-- Bush Administration/Obama Administration (Obama took office January 20th) --
[-1,353,106]  3,934,420 jobs lost   (from January 2008 to January 2009)

-- Obama Administration (blue is "gain" and red is "loss") --
[-  262,951]  4,197,371 jobs lost   (from February 2008 to February 2009)
[-  827,409]  5,024,780 jobs lost   (from March 2008 to March 2009)
[-   61,101]  5,085,881 jobs lost   (from April 2008 to April 2009)
[-  217,053]  5,302,934 jobs lost   (from May 2008 to May 2009)
[-  258,098]  5,561,032 jobs lost   (from June 2008 to June 2009)
[+   21,849]  5,539,183 jobs lost   (from July 2008 to July 2009)
[-   14,452]  5,553,635 jobs lost   (from August 2008 to August 2009)
[-  393,556]  5,947,191 jobs lost   (from September 2008 to September 2009)
[-  215,645]  6,162,836 jobs lost   (from October 2008 to October 2009)



SOURCE: Local Area Unemployment Statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics Article - When Did Your County's Jobs Disappear?

29 posted on 01/03/2010 2:46:57 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: bigbob; Concho
You were saying ...

There could be some delays in how the data is reported but listen the the music not just the words. The depiction of the trend here and the massive nature of the problem are the point of the animation.

I tried to include the "music" here... (LOL...), by including the "Amount of Change" figures (calculated them myself, hope they're right... :-) ...).

It shows "from the music" that these changes were happening in the last full year of the Bush Administration and things broke, big-time, when the big crash of the financial markets happened, just before the election. That was really bad news, but it was coming and coming for quite a while, anyway...

30 posted on 01/03/2010 2:51:10 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Kid Shelleen

It’s BS. If the data was true, we would have no unemployment. Maybe they are counting government jobs added, but not subtracting real jobs lost.


31 posted on 01/03/2010 3:27:11 PM PST by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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To: DustyMoment

The map shows an increase in Whatcom County, WA, as well. It’s impossible because unemployment has doubled in that time period.


32 posted on 01/03/2010 3:29:00 PM PST by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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To: Eva
I think you mis-read the data. Click on "START" and you will see unemployment growing at an alarming rate..
33 posted on 01/03/2010 4:51:30 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Keep your socialized health care off my body !!)
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To: KTM rider
There is a serious s*** storm brewing. Even in Texas, which has been VERY lightly hit by this recession compared to the rest of the country, sales tax revenues are through the floor and a lot of the big box retailers nationwide have shut down, like Circuit City, etc.

Next year, we may finally prove what many around here have known for years. There's no such thing as "too big too fail." I've already noticed that there are twice as many cops running radar. They're trolling for ticket money. They will raise property taxes to cover the defaulting property owners, and once they've squeezed everything out of that, they will have to start cutting services.

When they cut services, the government money jobs will start to dry up. The top people in government will continue to live high on the hog, but the drones will take it in the keester. Yeah, I know, many on here think anyone who works for the government should be shot, anyway. The over all point is, though, that those government drones may be the last people who were buying clothes at retail, food at fast food joints, etc.

I work at a community college, and we tend to be inverse economic indicators. When the economy is good, people are out working. When it's bad, they go back to college. However, if the student loans and grants dry up, it will get VERY bad for us.

I have a simple theory of economics. Nothing happens until somebody sells something. To sell something, you have to manufacture something. Until we change government policy, NOBODY is going to risk venture capital to manufacture, sell or buy anything.

34 posted on 01/08/2010 2:00:23 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: papasmurf

I would like to believe that, but it just seems like too many things were in place, and it wasn’t just something that could have been drummed up in a month.

If they had this kind of power wouldn’t they have pulled this kind of stunt in ‘04?


35 posted on 01/08/2010 2:41:15 PM PST by CommieCutter ("You wanted the presidency, you got it, now FIX THE DAMN ECONOMY!!!!" ----YankeeReb)
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To: CommieCutter

Their plans were hatched years ago.

They only had to wait for the openings they needed, and the Republican held Congress provided plenty of those. They barely had a pause in ruining this Country after the pubbies took over in 95.

Drunken Sailors would have been better choices.


36 posted on 01/08/2010 2:48:29 PM PST by papasmurf (You betcha!)
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To: NautiNurse

Dems got in power in Congress in 2007 - you can just see the job gains draining as the positive job growth centers shrink during that year. In 2008, the blight continues to accelerate under the democratic Congress, until the absolutely cancerous explosion in 2009 under complete control by Demoncrats. Any surprise?


37 posted on 01/08/2010 3:14:12 PM PST by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: papasmurf

Do you have anything to support this, like a link?

I’m open to this, but I just don’t see it.

I would be more than willing to take a look.

This must be when Rush said, “It’s the biggest October surprise in history of politics”.

To me it was set in the 1990’s.

If you have any links it would be much appreciated.


38 posted on 01/08/2010 4:02:01 PM PST by CommieCutter ("You wanted the presidency, you got it, now FIX THE DAMN ECONOMY!!!!" ----YankeeReb)
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To: fwdude

Don’t you think this was set with previous legislation though?

Don’t get me wrong, when the on-who’s-watch-did-it-happen liberals start talking— what you just said is the first thing I point to.

I was receiving housing bubble concern alerts from NewsMAx back in 2005, this is why I have my doubts.


39 posted on 01/08/2010 4:05:00 PM PST by CommieCutter ("You wanted the presidency, you got it, now FIX THE DAMN ECONOMY!!!!" ----YankeeReb)
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To: NautiNurse
About right. And my county got it's first red circle the same month I last worked - which is in sync with most of the country, the time it became apparent the spawn of Soviet operatives Barack and Stanley Ann would become the next occupant of the executive mansion.

Of course my business sector (non agricultural capital equipment) had been struggling for most of year 2008, but the Great One's nomination put the icing on the cake.

40 posted on 01/08/2010 8:07:50 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (MMM MMM MM!)
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To: CommieCutter

I’m not speaking of a singular event. I’m speaking of every Bill they offered and or passed, and every vote they have taken in the last 50 years. Each one has put us one step closer to a Government takeover and Socialism. And, our “reach across the aisle” RINOS have abetted them, every inch of the way.

I see your other post referring to the ‘90’s. Good observation. That’s when they came out of the closet, as it were, and blatantly thumbed their noses at us and the Constitution. That’s when most of us began to wake up to their idiocy.

And here most of us sit and argue about the POTUS nominee, and let the left detract us from our goals, when we should be focused like a laser beam on retaking Congress this year. Why do you think they don’t seem worried with their poll numbers lower than a gnat’s ass, and mid-terms just around the corner?


41 posted on 01/08/2010 8:38:00 PM PST by papasmurf (You betcha!)
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To: Concho
SW Kansas has had to shut down operations of a number of the beef packing meat processing plants. The actual numbers for those counties are about 10x what is shown on this map. So, if these numbers are not accurate, then why would the others not be under reported?

Aren't a lot of the meat processing plant employees illegals? They're probably not included.
42 posted on 01/08/2010 10:42:32 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: papasmurf

Why do you think they don’t seem worried with their poll numbers lower than a gnat’s ass, and mid-terms just around the corner?

I have no idea why. I’m concerned something permanent is going to happen that would affect any politician and they’re throwing the baby out with the bath water while the still can.

I see you were talking in the context of the long term, I thought you were talking in the context of the short term; in which I’ve seen some people espouse.

I can’t see this taken less than 10 to 15 years to pull off. So I see we’re you’re coming from.

GOP has been spineless.


43 posted on 01/09/2010 7:01:34 AM PST by CommieCutter ("You wanted the presidency, you got it, now FIX THE DAMN ECONOMY!!!!" ----YankeeReb)
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To: KTM rider

I can’t get unemployment because I am getting an average of about 6-8 hours a week , not enough to pay bills taxes and food but more than unemployment


6-8 hours? What do they pay 150 dollars a WEEK??


44 posted on 01/09/2010 7:10:31 AM PST by CommieCutter ("You wanted the presidency, you got it, now FIX THE DAMN ECONOMY!!!!" ----YankeeReb)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Very interesting......
Obamanomics at work. I consider the last quarter of 2008 as Zero’s economy as well, with the financial crisis brought on by his party’s policies and the handwriting on the wall that he’d probably win the election, as early as August/September of 2008.

Nice work, Zero! FReegards....GG


45 posted on 01/09/2010 7:11:34 AM PST by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: american colleen
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46 posted on 01/09/2010 2:46:53 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://home.tia)
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