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Glenn Beck on birther issue : 'Dumbest thing I've ever heard'
WorldNetDaily ^ | JANUARY 3, 2010 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 01/04/2010 7:24:46 PM PST by RobinMasters

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To: When do we get liberated?

Absolutely right. I suspect that the long version lists his father as unknown but, as you said, that is just an minor embarassment. His mother was an American thus he is a natural born citizen wherever he was born. End of story. Nobody cares about arcane arguments about such things as British dual citizenship.


61 posted on 01/04/2010 8:22:18 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: Drill Thrawl
Anyone, including Glen Beck, who dismisses this issue as worthless, unimportant, a fool's errand, a joke or a waste of time has not read the definitive FR thread on the topic. All of you who show up to put down the people who think this issue has merit should take the time to go through it - all 10,000 plus posts. I doubt there is a better resource on the subject other than certain intelligence agencies and of course BO's own files. Here's the link:

Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz)

This thread makes it very clear that Obama and his people have gone to extreme lengths to create the "move on" attitude you and Glen Beck have. Maybe you don't mind being manipulated by those pukes or maybe you might wonder why they consider it so important to make sure you are.

62 posted on 01/04/2010 8:26:53 PM PST by Natural Born 54
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To: RobinMasters
zero's defenders and supporters have been very successful in deflecting the question of natural born into a birther question. They couldn't have done it without a compliant and often times ignorant press and populace.
63 posted on 01/04/2010 8:27:07 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Revelation 911
says the guy who’s discernment totally missed the whole Joseph Smith thingie\

Is this why there seems to be so many anti Mormon threads every day? Is it some sort of attempt to counter Glenn Beck's influence in legitimizing his religion among evangelicals?

64 posted on 01/04/2010 8:27:44 PM PST by Ripliancum (I'm not ignoring you, just taking good counsel. - Proverbs 15:1-2)
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To: trustandobey
I can never go along with it Glenn and neither should you if our Constitution means anything to you.

I heard Beck's tirade today and was sorely disappointed. I'm not a hardcore birther, but what I want is for Zero to show the real certificate -- if he can. And I personally don't believe he can.

But to the point of the thread -- if Beck is going to wrap himself in the Constitution and insist on good governance from the criminals currently running our nation while laughing at the possibility that Obama has flouted that same Constitution to gain office, he's a fraud. And I say this as a loyal listener.

65 posted on 01/04/2010 8:28:21 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: When do we get liberated?

Soros is calling the shots. He could have made Hilary back off and I would guess he did.


66 posted on 01/04/2010 8:32:36 PM PST by Natural Born 54
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To: RushingWater
No, Beck doesn't regard focusing on missing documents worth the time. As usual, the proof is present for all to see, and ignore/ Obama told us he was born a dual-citizen. The Constitution requires that a president be a ‘natural born citizen.’ Chief Justice John Marshall explained, as did Waite and Story and Bingham, that a natural born citizen is “born in the country of parents who are its citizens.” Barack’s father was never a citizen. Perhaps that seems so simple as to be unbelievable.

In our courts we can offer habeas corpus rights to non-citizen terrorists, and an Army Captain who proclaims that his fellow soldiers are committing crimes against Allah is assigned the job counseling combat soldiers. If our founders were politically correct we wouldn't have a nation. They demanded that our commander in chief have no allegiances but to our nation and Constitution. The way they attempted to insure those qualities was to use both of the standard requirements used for millenia, require that he be born in this country, jus soli, and that his parents be citizens of this country, naturalized, native, or natural born - jus sanguinis. Obama is not qualified and he told us so - but we, many of you, won't listen. He said “I was born a subject of the British Coommonwealth”. You worry about his grades, or his passports, or his phony birth certificate. It's like a Monty Python sketch. He says to the porter, “I'd like an overhead bin for my bomb.” The porter says “You're not carrying any fresh fruit are you?”

67 posted on 01/04/2010 8:33:56 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: Natural Born 54; When do we get liberated?
Soros is calling the shots. He could have made Hilary back off and I would guess he did.

I've been praying a special prayer just for George Soros.

68 posted on 01/04/2010 8:36:11 PM PST by thecodont
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To: engrpat

Same here. I’m willing to entertain the idea that we don’t really know where he was born because of a lack of documentation, but I’m not willing to go out on a limb and point out a location on a map. The “He’s a Kenyan” talk has really hurt the issue. Without all that, we’d be left with just a President with no real reason for not providing all the documentation. The birthers have allowed themselves to become the target rather than keeping it on Obama. :9


69 posted on 01/04/2010 8:36:28 PM PST by TNdandelion (While Obama plays with his balls, Afghanistan falls.)
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To: RobinMasters
Ponder this.
If a state attorney general would bring charges against Obama for election fraud and subpoena his records, wouldn't he have to produce them?
70 posted on 01/04/2010 8:37:59 PM PST by tradergem
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To: Captain Kirk

That’s the problem with America today. Not enough citizens do care about what is Constitutional or not! And that is why we are suffering this illeagle coup of our country!


71 posted on 01/04/2010 8:38:03 PM PST by tradergem
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To: Colonel_Flagg
But to the point of the thread -- if Beck is going to wrap himself in the Constitution and insist on good governance from the criminals currently running our nation while laughing at the possibility that Obama has flouted that same Constitution to gain office, he's a fraud. And I say this as a loyal listener.

I agree except that fraud is too strong a word for me here. I'd say he's inconsistent.

72 posted on 01/04/2010 8:43:52 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: RobinMasters
Center column 3rd paragraph down:

Source:
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=071/llcg071.db&recNum=2
>! you have to turn to page 1291 !>

According to the the principal framer (John Armor Bingham )of the 14th amendment, particularly
the Citizenship and the Citizenship Clause (Defining who was a citizen of the United States) and by Mr. Obama’s
own admission he is not a Natural Born citizen.

“Bingham states: I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill],
which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the
jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language
of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen… . . –
John Bingham in the United States House on March 9, 1866”

73 posted on 01/04/2010 8:44:35 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: RobinMasters
Beck defined birthers as people who believe Obama was born in Kenya or other foreign country, was raised as a Manchurian candidate and somehow brainwashed Hillary Clinton into not exposing his fraud. According to Beck's running joke, birthers believe someone – maybe Obama's KGB "control" – preemptively placed Obama's birth announcement in 1961 Hawaiian newspapers with a "roadmap" of getting an African man into office.

Straw man, the first refuge of the emotional infant.

It is a proven fact that Barry Soetoro is not a "natural born citizen" using nothing more than his own statements in his autobiographies, regardless of where he was born or in what social environment he was raised.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

74 posted on 01/04/2010 8:45:51 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: tradergem

Unfortunately, I can’t produce a link but I remember seeing a poll within the last 3 months that showed a very large percentage of people actually do care. Anyone else see it?


75 posted on 01/04/2010 8:46:26 PM PST by Natural Born 54
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To: DaveTesla
by Mr. Obama’s own admission he is not a Natural Born citizen.

Indeed.

76 posted on 01/04/2010 8:46:35 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: RobinMasters

Since Coulter, a frequent Fox guest, made fun of the BC issue, and now Beck, who has a Fox show, has done the same thing, my theory is that they were both told by some very well-placed Fox mucky-muck to lay off the issue and in fact denounce it if you likes your Fox gig.

So they did. I think it’s that simple. As to why Fox would put the cabosh on the issue, I don’t know. Feel free to speculate.

If this is not the reason that Coulter and Beck trashed and belittled the issue, then they are both unprincipled and cowardly pukes. If it is the reason, then obviously they can’t announce the real reason they did it, and I suppose their motive is understandable. After all, they both do us more good on the air than not on the air.


77 posted on 01/04/2010 8:50:20 PM PST by Babu
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To: Frantzie

hannity which is ok ,but he rejects the birthers..I enjoyed hannity when he was doing the stop obama express but hannity screwed up with the stop Hillary express cause if we had to get a DEM potus HC would be better than obozo at least she loves America like herself ..obozo just loves his ego~~~


78 posted on 01/04/2010 8:54:14 PM PST by FreeperFlirt
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To: Babu
Why not just plead uncertainty?
Palin did a fine job in her reply.

Like my father aways said...
NEVER bite the hand that feeds you.

79 posted on 01/04/2010 8:54:29 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Drew68
You'd think Keyes might have mentioned that in the eligibility suits he's been party to.

Because it's hearsay and not admissible. Keyes can claim the usurper said he was born in a Kenyan hut but if/when the usurper denies it, then it's kaput. Glen has been against Birthers for a while. He probably got a phone call on that. Comparing Birthers to Truthers is like apples and oranges. One has nothing to do with the other. Me, I'm a Constitutionalist. He didn't prove he was eligible and therefore he is a usurper until he brings forth that proof. FREE THE LONG FORM, the kindergarten enrollment, the college records, scholarships, and any and all passports.

80 posted on 01/04/2010 8:55:24 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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