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Where Have All the Phantoms Gone?
Air and Space Magazine ^ | 01/01/2010 | Ralph Wetterhahn

Posted on 01/07/2010 1:18:38 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

The F-4 Phantom II lives. But the life it leads today is an odd one.

It still flies in other countries; in northern Iraq, for example, the Turks use it in combat with the Kurds. But in the United States, it leads a twilight existence. It’s a warplane, but it no longer fights. Its mission is weapons testing, but no pilot flies it. Mostly, you’ll find these F-4s either sitting in the desert or lying at the bottom of the sea.

The F-4 entered service in 1960, flying for the U.S. Navy. After studying its potential for close air support, interdiction, and counter-air operations, the Air Force added the F-4 to its fleet in 1963. Eventually the Phantom ended up even in the U.S. Marine Corps’ inventory. In four decades of active service to the United States, the aircraft set 16 world performance records. It downed more adversaries (280 claimed victories) than any other U.S. fighter in the Vietnam War. Two decades later, it flew combat missions in Desert Storm.

In 1996 the aircraft was retired from the U.S. fleet. But the venerable McDonnell design has one last mission to perform for the military: to go down in flames.

Since 1991, 254 Phantoms have served as unpiloted flying targets for missile and gun tests conducted near Tyndall Air Force Base in Florida and Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico. The use of F-4 drones (designated QF-4s) is expected to continue until 2014.

(Excerpt) Read more at airspacemag.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: aviation; aviationhistory; f4; military; militaryhistory; navair; phantomii; warplanes
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1 posted on 01/07/2010 1:18:39 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

I think the Phantom would make a great armed UAV. Just because.


2 posted on 01/07/2010 1:23:21 AM PST by Mr Inviso (ACORN=Arrogant Condescending Obama Ruining Nation)
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To: sonofstrangelove

3 posted on 01/07/2010 1:25:38 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: sonofstrangelove

America’s proof to the world that, given enough horsepower, even a brick can fly.


4 posted on 01/07/2010 1:26:47 AM PST by wolfpat (Moderate=Clueless)
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To: Westlander

Neat site...
http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/gallery/images/f4/f4.htm


5 posted on 01/07/2010 1:34:05 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: wolfpat

I always found the Phantom to be an excellent target.

Skyhawks forever!

TC


6 posted on 01/07/2010 1:36:30 AM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: sonofstrangelove

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

7 posted on 01/07/2010 1:42:45 AM PST by alfa6
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To: alfa6

Great Photos.


8 posted on 01/07/2010 1:45:30 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The sound of twin phantoms, racing overhead at almost supersonic is, to say the least, devastating.


9 posted on 01/07/2010 2:02:33 AM PST by Artie (Why are methadone addicts the happiest people on earth?)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

10 posted on 01/07/2010 2:13:06 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

F-4Js of VF-96 fly over San Diego harbor in 1969. During the squadron’s 1972 deployment to Southeast Asia aboard the USS Constellation, LT Randy Cunningham and LTjg Willy Driscoll became America’s first Vietnam aces while flying the lead airplane in this photo.

11 posted on 01/07/2010 2:20:17 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan

Can you post this one???
http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/gallery/images/f4/d4c-78267.htm


12 posted on 01/07/2010 2:41:47 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: Rummyfan

I remember seeing the Thunderbirds flying F-4’s at an air show in 1971. It was great.


13 posted on 01/07/2010 3:09:46 AM PST by dancusa (Political Correctness is a firewall to the truth.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

To: All

There you go..


14 posted on 01/07/2010 3:20:05 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
I'll never forget when I first saw an F-4, but more importantly, "Heard it!"

I was a Crew Chief stationed at Hickam AFB, Hawaii, in 1964 and while on the Flight Line one day, heard a real strange, high-pitch, somewhat "screeching" sound; something I'd never heard before, though we had some Fighters transitioning thru Hickam.

I looked up and saw a flight of F-4's fly over and peel off to land.

They were a beautiful sight and ended up seeing many more, especially after I got stationed in Nam in 1966.

Anyway, after first hearing one, they could easily be distinguished from other Fighters when they flew over.

15 posted on 01/07/2010 3:21:11 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: TangoLimaSierra
Awesome! Thanks!!!
16 posted on 01/07/2010 3:31:30 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: sonofstrangelove

IIRC, there were two squadreons of Phantoms in the Coral Sea’s Air Group, when I was aboard in 1973-74.

Got a lot of great pictures of flight ops from a perch up on the island.

As an aside, I was once able spend about an hour on the LSO platform during a night recovery. This is when I learned to have great respect for Naval Aviators.


17 posted on 01/07/2010 3:58:15 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in democrat stands for patriotism)
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To: sonofstrangelove

F-4 Phantom.......physical proof that if you put big enough engines in a brick it will fly.....


18 posted on 01/07/2010 4:09:10 AM PST by joe fonebone (A third party does need the majority to control the house...they only need 10%)
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To: Artie

Try standing 5’ behind one on a cat at full military power sometime......


19 posted on 01/07/2010 4:10:23 AM PST by joe fonebone (A third party does need the majority to control the house...they only need 10%)
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"they could easily be distinguished from other Fighters when they flew over."
yeah, they left a trail of smoke you would have to be blind not to see....
20 posted on 01/07/2010 4:12:19 AM PST by joe fonebone (A third party does need the majority to control the house...they only need 10%)
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