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National Effort to Amend the Constitution Launched
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| 01/07/2010
Posted on 01/07/2010 6:42:19 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd
Any convention will be owned by the left.
Amend it, fine. A convention will be a nightmare.
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:00:39 AM PST
by
GeronL
(http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
To: Responsibility2nd
A constitutional convention would be a debacle that would destroy our nation. Individual amendments are a good idea but this list isn't a particularly good one.
1. Require the federal government to have a balanced budget and stop incurring debt. There have been times in our history when incurring debt has been the only thing that allowed us to defend ourselves.
2. Repay the national debt over a 50-year period. Current debt? A constitutional amendment to pay off current debt? Seems a bit silly to incorporate that in the founding document.
3. Force Congress to be more transparent regarding the legislative process. Not really a bad idea exactly but without detail isn't anything but a very nebulous concept
4. Enable the president to have "line-item veto" authority. I completely disagree with adding this additional power to the executive branch.
5. Limit the number of terms a person can serve in Congress. Good idea
6. Mandate Congress control illegal immigration. Via constitutional amendment? What would this amendment be called? The "do your job" amendment?
7. Provide a legal framework to prevent becoming a bilingual nation. Or in other words make English the official language? Why get PC when discussing this? 8. Prevent foreign laws and courts from having authority over the American people. The current constitution does this already
9. Restrain the growth of the federal government and prevent "socialism." By amendment? Uhmm the entire constitution already does this. Putting an amendment on the constitution to this effect would be akin to proposing a "We really mean it this time" amendment.
10. Allow for the presence of "God" in the public domain. The constitution already allows for god in the public domain.
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:02:24 AM PST
by
Durus
(The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
To: Responsibility2nd
0. State Legislatures can remove Congressional Representatives
(congressmen/senator) via impeachment process in State legislature. Citizens can call for a special Congressional Representative (congressmen/senator) election via a ballot initiative.
IMHO/ States rights got short changed when switch was made to
direct election of Senator FOR SIX YEARS.
To: Responsibility2nd
Most of the items on that list can be achieved by simply requiring that our federal government stay within the confines of the powers specifically granted it in the original Constitution.
I'd settle for repeal of the 16th and 17th Amendments.
And as much as it'd be nice to have them, we can live without the line-item veto and congressional term limits if We the People are willing to use the ballot box to keep congress in check.
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:04:02 AM PST
by
WayneS
(Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
To: depressed in 06
11. Only people actually paying taxes shall have the right to vote.12. No one receiving money from any government entity shall have a vote, except, members of the military.
No. 11 happened to us while living in WA state. Every time they decided to raise taxes on HOME OWNERS to fund all their various lefty deals there, they allow everyone too vote on it, including ALL NON-PROPERTY/HOME OWNERS! What does some guy living in a motel, rented mobile home, apartment care if I had to pay higher taxes for him to get free stuff. Thus, these tax increases passed. Home owners were screwed and had too pay for these projects.
As for No. 12, you are screwing the old folks on SS, who paid into that fund and now are collecting. You can't punish those who paid into the program for getting back some of what they put in the stinking lefty program.
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:04:09 AM PST
by
RetiredArmy
(Stay armed. Buy bullets. Buy guns. Protect yourself - the government isn't.)
To: Travis McGee
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:04:40 AM PST
by
GeronL
(http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
To: chickadee
“The last thing in the world we want is a Constitutional Convention. The left has all the organization and manpower and will be able to Constitutionalize the very things we are trying to prevent”
I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:05:07 AM PST
by
SumProVita
(Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
To: EternalVigilance
Oh Yeof little faith! I saw a Demonrat on FoxNews try to justify the closed door machinations going on in trying to ram thru the Obomacare deathcare crap.
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:05:19 AM PST
by
junkman_106
(USN, Ret.and Mad as Hell. I've got the skills, come get my weapons!)
To: EternalVigilance
“What we really need are men and women in office who will do their sworn duty to the Constitution we have now.”
Exactly!
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:06:25 AM PST
by
SumProVita
(Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
To: Responsibility2nd
“Congress convene a Constitutional Convention to propose ten specific amendments”
You don’t need a constitutional convention to propose amendments,,,, and constitutional conventions have no limits on what they can do. Sounds like a way to lose the 2nd, or make healthcare a “right”, etc etc,,,
And what would an amendment saying “congress must be transparent” even mean?
Bad bad bad idea,,,
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:06:31 AM PST
by
DesertRhino
(Dogs earn thi title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
To: chickadee
“The last thing in the world we want is a Constitutional Convention.....”
BINGO!!!
I smell Soros money here somewheres....
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:07:06 AM PST
by
mo
To: Responsibility2nd
Most of them are short sighted. Others are silly. The rest are the way things really already are but we as a nation have screwed up the reading.
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:07:26 AM PST
by
discostu
(The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
To: Responsibility2nd
Too many items that are statutory rather than constitutional in nature, and some that’re just bad ideas: “Allow for the presence of “God” in the public domain.” Who dat? Moloch?
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:08:40 AM PST
by
Grut
To: Lonesome in Massachussets
“will find these admendments to be Unconstituitional.”
By definition,,,amendments are always constitutional. At best, a judge can only rule on the laws designed around one. But an amendment can’t be ruled unconstitutional.
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:10:33 AM PST
by
DesertRhino
(Dogs earn thi title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
To: Responsibility2nd
TERRIBLE idea.
Marxists would use such a convention to end Americas Constitutional freedoms.
A dangerous and foolish idea to even toy with.
To: DesertRhino
Sir, you obviously lack the life experiences of a wise Latina.
To: Responsibility2nd
And...
to remove ANY confusion (WE Conservatives are not confused by our 2nd Amendment, but left-wing un-American progressives and liberals are, be they democrat, independent, or RINO) about just what the 2nd Amendment REALLY means...
modify the 2A to simply say...
The right of the people to keep and bear arms, ammunition, and related items shall not be infringed in any way whatsoever.
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:14:20 AM PST
by
DocH
(Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
To: Responsibility2nd
problem is that once you open a constitutional convention, the whole document is open, and you cannot control what the special interests can do.
goodbye second ammendment, for example.
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:14:23 AM PST
by
camle
(keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
To: Responsibility2nd
Urging the current Congress and Senate to convene a Constitutional convention is a profoundly lousy idea.
SnakeDoc
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:15:48 AM PST
by
SnakeDoctor
(Ask not for a lighter burden, but for broader shoulders ...)
To: Responsibility2nd
Pardon me for yelling but...
NO CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION IS REQUIRED.
We have a perfectly good Constitution already.
What we need is a NEW CONGRESS and POTUS.
Thanks for your indulgence.
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posted on
01/07/2010 7:17:42 AM PST
by
paulycy
(AMERICA: Less safe. Less free. More broke.)
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