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BURNIN' DOWN THE TENT!
Freeperdom | January 08, 2010 | MestaMachine, Blueyon, Others

Posted on 01/08/2010 6:18:55 AM PST by MestaMachine

BURNIN' DOWN THE TENT!!!

This is PART II of the RINO FREE AMERICA PROJECT!!!
CALLING ALL FREEPERS AND STATE MESSAGE BOARDS TO ACTION!!!
(Approved and endorsed by Jim Robinson.)

Do we want action? Yes, we do!!!
Are we willing to take a giant step forward and create a central action site that allows us to see at a glance every single state’s candidates for national office, House and Senate, to separate the wheat from the chaff? That is our hope. We want to spend our money, our time, and our votes wisely. Our time is JUST as valuable as the money we spend.

The goal is to take back and take over the GOP, or move it out of the way, and elect conservatives to every office we can affect whether the RNC likes it or not.
To do this, we need a clearinghouse and a plan of action that encompasses all 50 states in ONE place. That place is Free Republic. THIS is where we nationalize the 2010 election cycle and choose where our money and our time is spent. The genius of Free Republic is that it already has the 50 state message boards. We don’t have to “google” our way through hundreds of candidates in individual states to find out who is who doing what. It’s already here, just not out in the public eye. This will change that.

I, and others, have repeatedly asked Freepers to present workable ideas with this goal in mind, and there have been many, but the two I am going to post here are comprehensive, have been well thought out over a long period of time, and the magic of it is that it has never been tried before...and THAT is precisely why it will work.

Freeper blueyon, (the originator of RINO FREE AMERICA PROJECT on FaceBook,) and I have worked on the idea to have each state message board create individual STATE BY STATE threads on the forum which presents information ONLY about their national congressional candidates.
We need their candidates’ names, pictures, platforms, voting records, (if applicable,) backgrounds, opinions, newslinks, statements, and whatever other information might be available including links to candidate’s’ websites if they exist.
The state message boards are full of much of this information and no one knows local politics like the locals. It’s time to make local politics national, and here is where we do it. Fifty states, fifty threads, ALL politics will be Free Republic Local politics.

Freepers have the best researchers in the business. We need that right here, right now if we are going to burn down the RINO tent and do it effectively. They will NOT be allowed to silence us again.
Those threads will be information only. Conservative candidates will be flagged and RINOs will be tagged. Anyone who wishes to debate or discuss individual candidates can start a separate thread for that here, AND/OR on the RINO FREE discussion board on FaceBook as well.
I expect these threads to become lengthy, so be sure to add the state and candidate's name as keywords.

The SECOND part of this plan is a NATIONAL strategy for accomplishing our goal once we have singled out the candidates we choose to support and gather THOSE candidates on to ONE thread. It is our intent to coordinate efforts with the National Tea Party Movement and have them link to our information as well as share whatever info they might have that we don’t...although I find that next to impossible knowing Freepers. There just might be tidbits of inside information we might not have access to, so contributions from outside Freeperdom will be researched by us FOR us and we will do well not to post rumor or inuendo if we have no proof.

The National Action plan is the sole hard work of a longtime Freeper who has asked to remain anonymous. It is his work and since he first sent it to me, he has updated it several times for the better. I neither take, nor deserve, any credit for it whatsover, and only on that basis did I accept the invitation to present it as I saw fit.

I have opted to make only the smallest changes to his ideas as they seem to me to be the stepstones of the future. However he did specifically ask that any constructive criticisms or additional ideas be sought and wants it known that this is a foundation we can build on. He has added reasons, including some from Scripture, for these ideas which are included in the body of information presented below. Many of you will find them relevant. Those who don’t will still find the ideas themselves worth your time. I am awed by the effort put forth here which is why I have left it pretty much in tact with minimal edits. I think you will be as well.

With that said, and without further adieu, continue on and see what ideas suit you best.


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KEYWORDS: bigtent; conservative; elections; rinofreeamerica; rinos; states
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To: Darksheare
IF you are going to claim Islam is a religion, which it is not, and allow it under ‘freedom of religion’, then you have to allow for their beliefs and practices.

Wrong. Any Muslim practice which violates American laws is illegal and should be.

So you are going on the record here saying that you are okay with Muslims owning slaves, raping women, commiting murder of Christians, etc etc?

Those practices (if that is what they intend to practice) are illegal and if they attempt to do any of those things they should be arrested, tried and executed.

That IS what you are saying by the way.

No sir. You sir.... are an idiot.

501 posted on 01/12/2010 12:03:15 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe; MestaMachine
BTW. Are you a man or a woman?

Yes

Woman it is.

502 posted on 01/12/2010 12:03:34 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: MestaMachine

503 posted on 01/12/2010 12:03:35 PM PST by JustPiper (The AUDACITY of DOPES)
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To: JustPiper

No, I was discussing it with rockinsranch and after a couple back and forths, I decided to just wait and see.
So far, nothing really known. But 9 containers?


504 posted on 01/12/2010 12:03:44 PM PST by MestaMachine (Your CORE is the path you walk. RINOs don't walk paths, they build roads to nowhere..)
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To: Hodar
Interesting, albeit long, thread.
505 posted on 01/12/2010 12:04:50 PM PST by zlala
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To: P-Marlowe

And you’re a woman.


506 posted on 01/12/2010 12:05:21 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: P-Marlowe

Btw, why is it your group that’s doing all the name calling? Nice polite bunch, ain’t ya. NOT!


508 posted on 01/12/2010 12:07:03 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: P-Marlowe
“Wrong. Any Muslim practice which violates American laws is illegal and should be. “
No, YOU are wrong.
They do not recognize YOUR laws.
What part of that is so hard to understand?
And yes you ARE saying you are okay with Islamic practices.
If you allow it to be label a religion, then you have to allow their beliefs and practices.
You ARE saying you are okay with this.

And we're seeing how well using the courts is working, just look at the Obama circus!
And you still haven't refuted anything Islam says about itself.
If you want to claim it is a religion, then you MUST allow the practice of the beliefs of that religion.

509 posted on 01/12/2010 12:07:38 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
We're trying to stop a theocracy from getting a bigger foothold in the US like it has in europe.

Then have a Constitutional Convention and overturn the First Amendment.

This is NOT Europe. I do not fear the imposition of Sharia Law in the United States. It will NEVER happen.

I fear the implementation of a nanny state Socialist Utopia. Nanny Staters will be more than happy to overturn the First Amendment to limit your Religious Liberty. If the First Amendment doesn't apply to Muslims, why should it apply to you?

Is the First Amendment a guarantee of individual rights or corporate rights?

510 posted on 01/12/2010 12:08:12 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

Where in any of the following do you see freedom of religion or free speech?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2423796/posts?page=342#342
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2423796/posts?page=347#347
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2423796/posts?page=355#355
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2423796/posts?page=356#356
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2423796/posts?page=361#361


511 posted on 01/12/2010 12:08:52 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: P-Marlowe

“I do not fear the imposition of Sharia Law in the United States. It will NEVER happen.”

Tell that to the people living near the Islamic communities in NY.
Tell that to the women who have been murdered here in the U.S. due to ‘honor killings’.


512 posted on 01/12/2010 12:10:23 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Are you a man?


513 posted on 01/12/2010 12:10:25 PM PST by MestaMachine (Your CORE is the path you walk. RINOs don't walk paths, they build roads to nowhere..)
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To: GeronL

Bump


514 posted on 01/12/2010 12:10:36 PM PST by JustPiper (The AUDACITY of DOPES)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Their blindness is why we are in this mess! They slept like Stepford citizens while our country was slowly being taken over. Do they even know when the radicals make their moves, what happens if they don’t adopt Allah? The tenet their is no religion BUT Islam


515 posted on 01/12/2010 12:12:35 PM PST by JustPiper (The AUDACITY of DOPES)
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To: MestaMachine

Well, well, well, Mesta....doesn’t this thread (now) just fit the bill of how Muslim/Islamic symptathizers can derail and infect our nation.

Here we are planning a push for taking back our country and in comes debates over Muslims rights...(under our constitution or not).... to push THEIR political agendas (under the disguise of being a religion.) How appauling is that!

If this can happen on a thread organizing for our country on the Largest Site on the net... imagine what’s happening and will be happening in our country nation wide.

This thread needs to be taken back to it’s original intent! Tick Tick Tck!

I’ve seen these same faces on other threads with the same old agruements. Some things never change and this arguement is one that can’t be settled out side those in our Government recognizing the mindset, how Muslims reason,(when possible to do that) their true agenda, and workbooks Muslims are using to move their Political/Islam into the USA, and informs the public in mass.

Until that happens these discussions cannot bare any good fruit on THIS THREAD except to waste very prescious time better spent on our own agenda. TICK TICK TICK.....


516 posted on 01/12/2010 12:13:30 PM PST by caww
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To: MestaMachine; JustPiper; blue-duncan; P-Marlowe; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; DJ MacWoW

Distinguished Debators (P-Marlowe and blue-duncan excluded) -

Should the disreputable of this gathering ping you, do one thing. Ping me. I will deal with it. All of you have better things to do.

MestaMachine: Nice catch on P-Marlowe quoting Hitler! I can’t say I would recognize the writing of Adolph. However, I can web search for things he copies and pastes, which he is wont to do.

P-Marlowe is probably a Muslim. Here’s why:

1) Modern American Christians never say they “practice” anything as P-Marlowe has done in post 75 per http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2423796/posts?page=75#75. Only Muslims use the idiom “practice”. Americans don’t “practice”, they believe or do.
2) Only Muslims and atheists copy and paste a bunch of verses from the Bible, in an effort to make Christians/Scripture look dumb. Please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2423796/posts?page=75#75 for an example of P-Marlowe doing this.
3) If P-Marlowe was a Christian who knew how to inspire a Christian revival, he would be engaged in community organizing work at the level MestaMachine is engaged in to bring it about. Things done by MestaMachine that P-Marlowe is not doing include: A) Presenting a plan B) Working with JimRob to use FR C) Fighting off Muslims/Atheists in that thread once posted. Instead, he is here, trying to distract, hijack, and tear down by handwaving, red-herrings, and deception.
4) Many fine Christian ministries are featured on the profile page of P-Marlowe. But he also has Rush Limbaugh. A Christian who draws spiritual meat from those ministries would never put Rush on the same page as them. P-Marlowe thus betrays a misunderstanding of Americana with the Christian faith. It’d be like having a web page dedicated to the NBA (National Basketball Association) and it’s stars, and having on that same page information on the Harlem Globetrotters. This is an even more serious mistake than that, beyond mere misorganization, given it is a profile page, and not just a web page.
3) Muslims have limited ability to reason honestly, and P-Marlowe has demonstrated this lack in avoiding answering the following itemized list of 21 questions. Specifically “diminished ability to reason or engage in analysis based upon general principles” and “a culture that engenders subtlety, indirection, and dissimulation in personal relationships.” per http://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars. Therefore he routinely engages in “handwaving” as seen in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handwaving. Handwaving has been employed extensively by P-Marlowe in this thread. Here is a slightly edited list of questions P-Marlowe has handwaved away so far.

Here is the full list of questions unanswered by P-Marlowe.

1) Given Muslims who are instructed in their Qur’an to deliberately lie to be in a position to kill, why would you give them the freedom to do so? When you Google for “Taqiyya” you get results like this: http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Islamic-Principle-Lying-for-Allah.htm
2) Would you rather “legitimately cry foul” or would you rather negotiate for reciprocity once you have leverage? Right now, we have no leverage, and Christianity is suppressed there, and Islam is promoted here, and the Muslims think we are stupid, and actively exploit this oversight. Why would they voluntarily stop oppressing Christians and Jews sometime in the future if they have not until now?
3) John Adams said, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Do you think he was talking about Muslims who are instructed in their Qur’an to deliberately lie to be in a position to kill as commanded in the Qur’an?
4) According to this article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html the British government deliberately wanted to transform England into a multicultural society. If it is happening there, don’t you think it is at least possible the same deliberate sabotage is happening here?
5) Have you seen this article? http://radarsite.blogspot.com/2008/03/muslim-takeover-of-west-how-it-works.html It describes how Muslim evil behavior exponentially increases against their linear increase in population. What do you think of them? Given we have done nothing so far, and the situation continues to worsen, how do we effectively respond beyond “legitimately cry foul” which we do, but has had zero *results* so far?
6) Jesus said “Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.” in . Might letting the Muslims come here, and proselytize and breed until they reach sufficient numbers per http://obambi.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/the-muslim-takeover-of-america/ to take over, perhaps doing so is “casting pearls before swine”? If not, why not? How do you apply in real life?
7) Given government is ordained by God in Romans 13 to punish evil, why let Muslims into this country in the first place, given the extremists are given to mass murder, and the “moderates” never condemn it? How is American society edified by having such people?
8) Seen these pictures? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2424261/posts?page=11#11
9) Seen this quote? “Please pay attention to my statement: I have decided to fight Islam. Not the political Islam. Not the militant Islam. Not the radical Islam. Not the Wahhabi Islam. But Islam itself. I truly believe that the West has invented these terms for the sake of being ‘politically correct’... Islam has never been misunderstood, Islam is the problem.” It is sourced at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafa_Sultan
10) Why did you post a list of Bible verses in post 75 that is only used by atheists to paint the Bible as absurd and out-of-date?
11) When the crusades expelled Islam from Europe, did they JUST pray, or did they use force? You realize had it not been for the crusades, we’d all be Muslims. Why can’t political force be used?
12) When a robber/rapist shows up to your house, do you pray and then evangelize, or do you call 911? The rapist/robber is in America, and it is called Islam.
13) Even Paul invoked his rights as a Roman citizen in Acts 22:25 so why are you defending Islam by saying we should not use our rights as citizens instead be Christian, and yet you are unable to “give answers” for all the aforementioned?
14) Why have you engaged in evasive handwaving and spoken red-herrings? Totally uncalled for, after I went out of my way to be polite to you. You are a Christian? You expect me to take your Christianity seriously at all? “Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.” James 2:17
15) In your post 156, you say “I personally believe that Islam is Satanic and potentially dangerous from many fronts. Nevertheless, Islam is considered a valid religion”. Explain this contradiction. Given James 1:27 says, “Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world.” how is it that you advocate for Islam as a religion, when they are known for subjugation, violation, and desecration? Is Christ the only way?
16) Given Islam aims to replace the Constitution, and the Constitution speaks of the crime of treason, why do you keep spouting red-herrings in post 156 about the government not having the “right to outlaw it”?
17) You said, “The First Amendement is a guarantee of our unalienable right to freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Assembly. The proposals on this thread to effectively outlaw the rights of Muslims to practice their religion, to speak freely about their beliefs and the assemble together at a place of their own choosing is, in fact, as UNAMERICAN as the beliefs that the Muslims have that they should someday overturn the Constitution and Install Sharia Law.” The fact that they assemble to deny us out rights does not trouble you? Again, it’s treason given the subjugation, violation, and desecration coming down the pipeline. Just see http://radarsite.blogspot.com/2008/03/muslim-takeover-of-west-how-it-works.html
18) 2 Corinthians 6:5 Paul speaks of “watchings”. He was watching for people coming to hurt him. His prayers were not enough?
19) Have you read Gary Demar’s “Myths Lies & Half-Truths” http://www.amazon.com/Myths-Lies-Half-Truths-Misreading-Neutralizes/dp/0915815451/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263155003&sr=8-2. The subtitle is, “How Misreading the Bible Neutralizes Christians”. Is it possible you have something to learn from it?
20) NEW — Given we need licenses to drive cars, fly planes, and conceal and carry guns, why should there not be any earthly qualification other than age and a pulse to vote? Would you let your 10 year old kids drive? Would you let them drink? Would you let them stay out till 3am? You would not? Does this not make you against the very freedom you so dearly cherish, and a hypocrite?
21) NEW — Do you support profiling of Muslims at airport pre-boarding security yes or no?

I will check this thread daily, until retired. But please ping me if blue-duncan or P-Marlowe or any other trolls surface. Don’t waste your time. Only a doofus like me should have dealings with doofuses (doofi?) like them. They might infect all ye!

Cordially,

- ROTB


517 posted on 01/12/2010 12:14:46 PM PST by ROTB (Public Option vs. Insurance: Armed men at my door demanding payment vs a "bill")
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To: P-Marlowe
Then have a Constitutional Convention and overturn the First Amendment.

Where does the First Amendment speak about foreign governments? Why would we change it to keep a theocracy from getting a foothold?

This is NOT Europe.

A few more like you and it will be.

If the First Amendment doesn't apply to Muslims, why should it apply to you?

Because their religion is a form government and mine is not.

518 posted on 01/12/2010 12:14:56 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: wagglebee
Give them the power to take away religious rights and Christians will be the first ones attacked.

I will weigh in here because I was pinged. I haven't read the voluminous exchanges that are so heated here. Frankly with what I'm dealing with in regards to my wife's cancer, I couldn't handle the intensity of emotions.

But I will say that Christianity IS under attack and constantly so. Islam is only one of the attacking forces. Christianity is being vilified by Satanic forces using the United States Constitution and a corrupted, evil sort of political correctness that seems to have become entrenched in our society and especially in our legal system over the past 20 or so years. This is most readily apparent in the federal judiciary.

Christianity is attacked in the modern media who hold it up to societal ridicule. The more extreme elements of our free and open society then feel safe in carrying out more direct and even violent attacks on believers and houses of worship. Sometimes these attacks take the form of legal action done proactively seeking either damages or worse an insidious form of proscription be levied against the Church to muzzle them. When believers try and fight back inside the system that evil languishing there acts to reinforce the attackers with spurious jurisprudence and judicial activism.

Our way of life is being destroyed. Our culture is being destroyed. The really sad thing is that most liberals won't see the evil they have helped unleash on our country until it turns on them and forces them to accept Sharia law. Then it will be too late.

But that's really okay. See it's all part of the PLAN and the God of the Universe is running the plays. I can't quote the verse but Christ said: In this world you will have Tribulation, but fear not! For I have overcome the world.

519 posted on 01/12/2010 12:15:24 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: caww; MestaMachine

Agreed.
We’re wasting time bandying words with the mouthpieces of All-ha and his pedophile servant MoHAMmed while we should be working out hwo to destroy the liberal morons running the country.


520 posted on 01/12/2010 12:15:47 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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