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To: STE=Q

Just curious: Did the Founding Fathers exempt themselves from this or did they declare themselves US (vs. English) citizens at the conclusion of the Revolutionary War?


4 posted on 01/10/2010 6:18:27 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Never bring a snowball to a gun fight.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
"Did the Founding Fathers exempt themselves.."

They were the "founders of the feast", so to speak.

There couldn't be any "natural born citizens" of the United States of America, until there WAS a United States of America.

I don't think anyone can deny their devotion and patriotism to this country - before and after it was formed.
6 posted on 01/10/2010 6:27:25 PM PST by FrankR (There will be no jobs until it is profitable for employers to hire people....PERIOD.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President,

Article II, Section 5. I think this answers your question.


7 posted on 01/10/2010 6:29:31 PM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: GOPsterinMA

They “GRANDFATHERED THEMSELVES IN:

“No person except a natural born Citizen **or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution** shall be eligible to the Office of President;...”

STE=Q


8 posted on 01/10/2010 6:32:05 PM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: GOPsterinMA
There is no exemption in the Constitution.

The issue was dealt with thusly:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President'

I have never heard if the first seven Prsidents (Martin Van Buren, #8, being the first to be born a US citizen) specifically declared US Citizenship.

10 posted on 01/10/2010 6:33:58 PM PST by Ready4Freddy ("It's not the number of burnt cars that worries me. It's the fact that everyone finds this normal..")
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To: GOPsterinMA

A2S1C5:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

Justice Joseph Story, also founder of Harvard Law School, in his works of Volume 3, Section 1472-73 of ‘The Founders Constitution: Commentaries on the Constitution’ originally published in 1833 writes of the qualifications of those who wish to attain election into the executive branch as laid out in A2 S1 C5 of the constitution:

§ 1472. Considering the nature of the duties, the extent of the information, and the solid wisdom and experience required in the executive department, no one can reasonably doubt the propriety of some qualification of age. That, which has been selected, is the middle age of life, by which period the character and talents of individuals are generally known, and fully developed; and opportunities have usually been afforded for public service, and for experience in the public councils. The faculties of the mind, if they have not then attained to their highest maturity, are in full vigor, and hastening towards their ripest state. The judgment, acting upon large materials, has, by that time, attained a solid cast; and the principles, which form the character, and the integrity, which gives lustre to the virtues of life, must then, if ever, have acquired public confidence and approbation.

§ 1473. It is indispensable, too, that the president should be a natural born citizen of the United States; or a citizen at the adoption of the constitution, and for fourteen years before his election. This permission of a naturalized citizen to become president is an exception from the great fundamental policy of all governments, to exclude foreign influence from their executive councils and duties. It was doubtless introduced (for it has now become by lapse of time merely nominal, and will soon become wholly extinct) out of respect to those distinguished revolutionary patriots, who were born in a foreign land, and yet had entitled themselves to high honors in their adopted country. A positive exclusion of them from the office would have been unjust to their merits, and painful to their sensibilities. But the general propriety of the exclusion of foreigners, in common cases, will scarcely be doubted by any sound statesman. It cuts off all chances for ambitious foreigners, who might otherwise be intriguing for the office; and interposes a barrier against those corrupt interferences of foreign governments in executive elections, which have inflicted the most serious evils upon the elective monarchies of Europe.

http://constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/constitutional-nuclear-bomb-blasts-obamas-eligibilty-to-smithereens/


14 posted on 01/10/2010 6:40:11 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: GOPsterinMA

Grandfathered.


15 posted on 01/10/2010 6:41:59 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
Did the Founding Fathers exempt themselves

Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the United States Constitution.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.


60 posted on 01/11/2010 6:22:21 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Yes, the actual requirement is for the President to be a natural born citizen of the United States or a citizen of the United States at the time the Constitution was adopted.


63 posted on 01/11/2010 7:13:37 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I read where they had to exempt themselves at the time and it was legislation because there was no way that anyone would have been eligible since the country was so young.


77 posted on 01/11/2010 12:51:43 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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