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UIPA REQUEST CONFIRMS QUIP, EXPLAINS MULTIPLE ORIGINAL VITAL RECORDS OF BARACK OBAMA
thepostemail ^ | 1/12/2010 | John Charlton

Posted on 01/12/2010 7:50:15 PM PST by rxsid

Edited on 01/13/2010 2:21:33 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

As can be seen from Obama’s own mouth, at about 5:55 into the above video, he clearly says that his name is Steve.

Based on this admission, the citizen-researcher requested from Janice Okubo, Communications Director for the Hawaii Department of Health, the index data for all the Steve Dunhams in their registry for an individual born August 4, 1961. The request was made on Oct. 29, 2009. The answer came on November 10.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; dunham; fraud; hawaii; ineligible; kenya; obama; soetoro; stephen; steve; stevedunham; steven; usurper
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To: STARWISE

Yes, that video Obama say he is Steve.

Save it to your hard drive....


51 posted on 01/12/2010 9:10:49 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: FrankR

Not at all. At least until this follow part (what the article is about) is discredited. See the numerous updates and follow-up questions regarding the actual, alleged UIPA request that returned a “positive” hit for a “Steve Dunham” born on 8/4/1961.


52 posted on 01/12/2010 9:12:00 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: tflabo

Found the video where he says his middle name is “Steve”...it is in Part 2 of the dinner video at about 1:36

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SkFjTCscM4&feature=video_response


53 posted on 01/12/2010 9:12:58 PM PST by Ritima
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To: Smokeyblue

He is comfortable with brazen acts. Remember using his middle finger to scratch his face when talking about Hillary?

The guy is a jerk, and he’s full of himself. I find it entirely possible that the “Steve” joke was an intentional poke in the eye at the gullible public that would soon vote for him.


54 posted on 01/12/2010 9:13:13 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Marmolade

Me, too .... it stuck with me and
I knew there was a ring of truth
to this.


55 posted on 01/12/2010 9:14:52 PM PST by STARWISE (.They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Jedidah

“The guy is a jerk, and he’s full of himself. I find it entirely possible that the “Steve” joke was an intentional poke in the eye at the gullible public that would soon vote for him.”

I couldn’t agree with you more. It sounds exactly like something he would do.


56 posted on 01/12/2010 9:15:10 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: Red Steel

How do you save a video to your computer ? Help ...


57 posted on 01/12/2010 9:16:42 PM PST by STARWISE (.They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Red Steel; rxsid

Any explanations for simple minds apprecitated.

Since the article states:

“In her official response received by email last night, Okubo denied that there is any index data for a vital record of a birth on August 4, 1961 for a “Steve Dunham.”

How is this a good thing? She says there is no vital record, or no index data? So there is no record? Please elucidate!

Regarding 0bama saying his middle name is “Steve”, I think it’s interesting, as liars often reveal just a little truth to feel superior to the idiots who don’t know the truth, or by accident, slip of the tongue/mind, etc.


58 posted on 01/12/2010 9:18:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: STARWISE

I use Mozilla Firefox web browser that has the Add-on called “Download Helper”

Add On search site:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox

And

The extension site for Download Helper:

http://www.downloadhelper.net/


59 posted on 01/12/2010 9:26:04 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: rxsid

“What about that the UIPA request, and the name “Steve Dunham” that was allegedly confirmed by HI as having been born on 8/4/1961?”


This is what the UIPA response was as described in the article you posted:

“In her official response received by email last night, Okubo denied that there is any index data for a vital record of a birth on August 4, 1961 for a “Steve Dunham.” It took her 90 days to figure out how to respond. And that in itself lets you, the reader, know what she meant to say: his name is “Steve Dunham”!”


This person says he did not get confirmation on a “Steve Dunham” vital record with the birth date of 8/4/61. Then the author goes on to say this official denial proves she was right - his name is “Steve Dunham.” I don’t understand why this is being discussed.


60 posted on 01/12/2010 9:26:51 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: STARWISE

I use Flash Video Downloader

http://www.flashvideodownloader.org/


61 posted on 01/12/2010 9:27:33 PM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: SaraJohnson

“I don’t understand why this is being discussed.”

You are so right - this is just stupid.


62 posted on 01/12/2010 9:29:55 PM PST by NotThere
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To: Red Steel

Thank you ... and where on your
computer do you save a video ?

Sorry .. techie challenged in
that dept .. I save music, pics,
but no videos.


63 posted on 01/12/2010 9:29:57 PM PST by STARWISE (.They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE

WWW.KEEPVID.COM


64 posted on 01/12/2010 9:34:34 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: SaraJohnson

I am waiting for an enlightening explanation! There must be one.


65 posted on 01/12/2010 9:36:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: SaraJohnson
According to John Carlton (From the article):

" Like most requests for such information since the end of September when the Department began releasing such — following the threat of a lawsuit from another citizen-researcher — Okubo responds rather quickly with a denial that any such record or the information requested exists.

In this case, Okubo responded that she needed more time to respond!"

He goes on to state that it took 2 additional months for her to come back to say no index existed. He's questioning why she didn't answer negative in the first place.

Didn't Leo and/or MrsTickly get a similar run-around only to have a "final" answer of yes?

66 posted on 01/12/2010 9:38:00 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Neidermeyer

Thank you .. I’ll check it out .. ;)


67 posted on 01/12/2010 9:39:02 PM PST by STARWISE (.They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: little jeremiah

I’ll read it again...Charlton is taking the position that Obama did not lie when he quipped...

Obama: In the spirit of full disclosure there are few October suprises you will be finding out in the coming weeks. First of all my middle name is not what you think - it’s actually Steve - that’s right, my name is Barack Steve Obama.

...well, with Obama you never know.


68 posted on 01/12/2010 9:45:15 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: STARWISE

The program will give you the option to save it to where you want...like “My Documents”. Even if you don’t save it initially where you wanted the download to go, you can move it later.


69 posted on 01/12/2010 9:49:22 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: rxsid

Seriously... do you think this hippy mama of obama was smart enough to file all that crap? There is great pre supposition going on that she knew it was important form him later in life . I just dont think she had such forethought.


70 posted on 01/12/2010 10:13:07 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: rxsid

Was Steve (Steven, Stephan) Dunham one of the names on the Soc. Sec. numbers listed in previous threads?


71 posted on 01/12/2010 10:19:03 PM PST by Diver Dave
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To: Red Steel
The name change to Barack Obama makes it into the newspaper birth announcements?

The baby's name is not listed in those birth announcments. Just Parents (Mr. & Mrs. Barack H. Obama) Address(6085 Kalanianaole), son, and date (Aug 4)


72 posted on 01/12/2010 10:24:16 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: rxsid
he could not marry multiple times except under tribal law, which excluded wives of European descent — required that Ann would have had to have put down her own surname on the original Kenyan birth certificate.

BHO Sr. took another American woman back to Kenya with him when he left Harvard, and married her, in Kenya, IIRC. He also married "Sarah", another Luo.

Guy was an arrogant horn dog.

73 posted on 01/12/2010 10:28:45 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Memory refreshed. ;-)


74 posted on 01/12/2010 10:29:33 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: rxsid; LucyT; BP2; hoosiermama
I will throw my .02 cents in the ring. Hawaii DOH has failed to respond to many Public Records requests, and as of recently possibly under threat of suit is responding to some. Their public relations is a nightmare and few people trust them and their statements much less their responses.

I think a few hundred suits ought to get their attention. There is no reason in the world why they won't let the public, know the difference between a COLB with date filed by Registrar and date accepted by State Registrar. Someone supposedly got an answer that they don't have to answer all questions. Other answers are that their are no records showing the difference. Yeah right, and I have a bridge to Hawaii for sale. That is evasive and casts a very bad light on Hawaii DOH and their higher ups.

Where is the news media on this? Honolulu Advertiser? Someone needs to ask the Governor why they won't answer such a simple question. Forget Hawaii as a vacation destination, they can't be trusted IMO. Forget calling Glenn Beck call the Governor. Tell them when the Republicans/Tea Partiers take back Congress they won't see a dime till they obey their own laws. PUT THE HEAT ON, ASK EVERYONE TO CONTACT HAWAII UNTIL WE GET SOME STRAIGHT ANSWERS!

http://hawaii.gov/gov/issues/constituent-services

Governor Lingle believes strongly that state government should be open and accessible to the people of Hawai‘i, and the Constituent Services office works to meet that mandate in a professional, courteous and prompt manner. The purpose of Constituent Services is to provide information about state government and connect citizens to the state departments that can best meet their needs.

phone and email at links....

http://hawaii.gov/gov/contact

As for Steve Dunham, I call B.S.

75 posted on 01/12/2010 10:30:52 PM PST by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Walkingfeather
"Seriously... do you think this hippy mama of obama was smart enough to file all that crap? There is great pre supposition going on that she knew it was important form him later in life . I just don't think she had such forethought."

I don't know about "later in life", but for the more immediate term...wanting to get her son a HI birth certificate would be important. IMO, she seemed more like a pseudo-Commie (perhaps full Commie) than a (drugged up) hippy. The commie's were known to be sneaky/devious like that.

76 posted on 01/12/2010 11:26:37 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rolling_stone; LucyT; BP2; hoosiermama
Yeah, it does appear that John is using a bit of "journalistic freedom" in his assessment.

It still is strange that HI wouldn't come back with the first response and say no index for Steve Dunham. Why wait until the 3rd (?) response many months later?

Anyway, I completely agree with this statement:

"There is no reason in the world why they won't let the public, know the difference between a COLB with date filed by Registrar and date accepted by State Registrar."

77 posted on 01/12/2010 11:40:16 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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For whatever it's worth...John has now posted the alleged request and initial response:

he request was made on Oct. 29, 2009, and read as follows:

Aloha Ms. Okubo,

IAW Hawa’ii Revised Statute, paragraph 338-18( d), I am requesting all index data pertaining to the vital records of Steve Dunham, Steven Dunham, Stephen Dunham born on 8/4/61. Please send me death, birth, divorce and marriage index and any other information you have on the index for this name.

This statute at para (d) provides officials no authority to withhold the requested information. Therefore, I as an American citizen, am invoking Revised Statute, paragraph 338-18(d) Disclosure of records, which reads as follows: (d) Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public. Please follow any other statutes of Hawaii that cover this information to be released.

Thanks,

The answer came from Okubo on Nov. 10, 2009 and was contained in an Acknowledgment to Requester form, which read thus:

 

This acknowledgment is provided in accordance with section 2-71-13, Hawaii Administrative Rules (“HAR”), because the following extenuating circumstance(s) exist::

  X — Agency requires additional time to respond to the request in order to avoid an unreasonable interference with its other statutory duties and functions.


78 posted on 01/12/2010 11:46:56 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
He also says in the video he was born on Krypton.

Time to contact Krypton about their birth records!

79 posted on 01/13/2010 12:11:46 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: pyx

Has it been sanitized? I seem to remember him saying in a joke format that his name was Steve at that dinner.


80 posted on 01/13/2010 12:31:44 AM PST by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: chopperman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk5YJkhizRs&feature=player_embedded

As can be seen from Obama’s own mouth, at about 5:55 into the above video, he clearly says that his name is Steve.


Agreed. He doesn’t say “Steve” in that portion.

Wrong video? Wrong starting point?


81 posted on 01/13/2010 12:39:04 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Smokeyblue; All

Yes, it’s at this link, too. Said jokingly (STEVE).

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/01/12/his-name-is-steve-dunham/

Start about 1:31


82 posted on 01/13/2010 12:45:55 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: UCANSEE2

Go to 1:37 and you will hear it!!!

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/01/12/his-name-is-steve-dunham/


83 posted on 01/13/2010 1:36:03 AM PST by danamco
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To: Red Steel

Yes, I just heard it!!!


84 posted on 01/13/2010 1:38:52 AM PST by danamco
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To: STARWISE

Bookmark it!!!


85 posted on 01/13/2010 1:44:20 AM PST by danamco
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To: rxsid
I think I have seen that he is now 52 years of age and not 2009 - 1964!!!

So if that is true, Okubo is not lying if she does the search with the year 1964???

86 posted on 01/13/2010 1:53:09 AM PST by danamco
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To: cartan

PING


87 posted on 01/13/2010 2:22:01 AM PST by cartan
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To: browardchad

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’S STATUS BE “GOVERNED” BY GREAT BRITAIN?


88 posted on 01/13/2010 2:39:39 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: SaraJohnson
This whole thing makes no sense. It is a hoax. An obvious hoax.

Yep -- the Obamanots are trying to run as fast as they can from the fact that Obama's father was a Kenyan and that he was a British national at birth and still is.

89 posted on 01/13/2010 5:57:20 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: STARWISE
Me, too .... it stuck with me and I knew there was a ring of truth to this.

Ditto here. It's one of those things that you have to pull off the back burner of your mind, but you remember it.

90 posted on 01/13/2010 6:02:00 AM PST by Faith (Natural born citizen and willing to prove it.)
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To: chopperman

But in the spirit of full disclosure, there are a few October surprises you’ll be finding out about in the coming weeks. First of all, my middle name is not what you think. It’s actually Steve. That’s right. Barack Steve Obama. — Barack Hussein “Steve” Obama, Speech given at Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner, 15 Oct 2008.

Text for speeches by McCain and Obama available at:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/10/obama_comedy_rift_middle_name.html


91 posted on 01/13/2010 6:11:38 AM PST by DurusHelm
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To: F15Eagle

bump


92 posted on 01/13/2010 6:11:57 AM PST by DurusHelm
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To: rxsid
Here's the video where Obama calls himself "Steve"... LOL...

Obama Roast McCain @ Alfred E. Smith Dinner Part 2

Ummmm..., you do know that it's typical of people at "roasts" to give a bunch of one-liners.... LOL...

Obama is giving a whole series of "one-liners" and after every one of them, the audience is laughing their heads off... :-)

I was actually laughing at a bunch of them, just listening to the above video and trying to find the "Steve" part...

93 posted on 01/13/2010 9:25:03 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
"Ummmm..., you do know that it's typical of people at "roasts" to give a bunch of one-liners.... LOL... "

Really? I didn't know that.

"I was actually laughing at a bunch of them, just listening to the above video and trying to find the "Steve" part..."

As you've read in the thread above, it's in a different video.

94 posted on 01/13/2010 9:51:56 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
You were saying ...

As you've read in the thread above, it's in a different video.

It was in the video link that I supplied in the last post I did... :-)

I listened to the video and I do confirm that he did say he was "Steve" -- and I was even laughing at that part, too.... LOL...

We might all not want Obama around, but he did tell a bunch of funny "one-liners" -- including the one where he said he was "Steve"... :-)

95 posted on 01/13/2010 9:58:18 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: DurusHelm

Yeah..., that was funny too... Obama was really cracking a bunch of one-liners there... LOL...


96 posted on 01/13/2010 10:00:06 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Red Steel; UCANSEE2
You were saying ...

Yup, If Obama referred to himself as Steve, it wasn’t in that video.

He does say "Steve" -- but Obama is cracking a joke -- a bunch of "one-liners" at a "Roast" of John McCain....

I even laughed when Obama did that with "Steve".... LOL...

97 posted on 01/13/2010 10:06:43 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: rxsid
No doubt about it, everyone is getting the run around about Obama’s vital records from the State of Hawaii. Without a lawsuit which results in a court order for the State to release all the vital records information being requested, we can not assume the replies to the UIPA requests are true or false.

Leo was going to follow up with a lawsuit on this but he disappeared elsewhere but only after criticizing and diminishing all real efforts being made by others. In truth, I don't think Leo really was interested in finding out the truth about Obama’s citizenship status because when he got close in this UIPA strategy he took over from Ms. Tickley - he dropped it and closed his blog. Ms. Tickley’s findings were fuzzy to me but then she disappeared.

Now we have this kooky thing that makes no sense. A lot of these folks are just weird and manipulative. I think Obama is hiding his birth data and background records for a reason that is not good. But there seems to be a lot of people cropping up to mislead and lie in order to misinform, discredit, discourage and confuse the “birthers.”

98 posted on 01/13/2010 10:06:52 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson; rxsid
You were saying ...

I think Obama is hiding his birth data and background records for a reason that is not good. But there seems to be a lot of people cropping up to mislead and lie in order to misinform, discredit, discourage and confuse the “birthers.”

That's why I've said, from the beginning (just after the election took place) that we needed to pass some state laws which will require all candidates to produce a birth certificate or else they cannot be on the ballot in that state.

Several states have started that process, including my own state last year. But, none have passed so far. I would encourage all FReepers to work on this legislation as I think it's the only solid way to get that information which is contained on the birth certificate...

99 posted on 01/13/2010 10:11:11 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: rxsid; InspectorSmith

I posted the following to Charlton. It was “awaiting moderation” but has disappeared apparently because he refused to post it:

Seizethecarp says:

Wednesday, January 13, 2010 at 12:01 PM
I support investigation and release of Obama’s HI original vital records, but your headline and conclusion, “UIPA REQUEST CONFIRMS QUIP”, is false logic on its face. HI actually DENIED the quip. You then conclude that the delay in response time equates to a CONFIRMATION of the quip. This is not logical.

If there were no STEVE DUNHAM in the HI vital records, their written response would have been the same, but you don’t allow for this in your logic. Your test of whether there is a STEVE DUNHAM in the HI vital records cannot be falsified by an HI denial, per your logic.

HI has been bombarded with UIPA requests and threats of lawsuits so delays are inevitable regardless of how easy they are to respond to.

I respectfully suggest that you retract this story ASAP.


100 posted on 01/13/2010 10:14:53 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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