Haiti: enslaved by its dark history

The Telegraph ^ | 1/14/2008 | Ian Thomson

[SkyPilot]

"My palace collapsed. ... I can't live in the palace!

Haiti President Rene Preval, January 14th, 2010

[conimbricenses]

Most of the paved roads in Haiti were built in the 20's and 30's by the United States. Our marines moved in and occupied the place in 1915 after the self-appointed dictator for life slaughtered 167 politicians from the opposition faction and sparked a revolt that basically burned Port Au Prince to the ground.

Haiti was a craphole before we got there, and it became a craphole again after we left. And yet they still find ways to blame America for it.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***Even communism or fascism would be an improvement.***

It was pointed out in an article about thirty five years or so ago that Haiti is such a basket case even the commies would not touch it.

Anyone remember that under the Clinton administration, in order for Clinton to get American black political support for his assault rifle ban he had to promise $$$ to Haiti.

[PGalt]

Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

[Gator113]

LMAO

[conimbricenses]

"My palace collapsed. ... I can't live in the palace!" - Haiti President Rene Preval, January 14th, 2010

Wouldn't be the first time.

"My palace was just obliterated by the rebel army's cannons - round up and execute all my political enemies!" - Haiti President Vilbrun Sam, July 27, 1915

"My palace just blew up with me and all my troops inside! Maybe storing gunpowder in the basement wasn't such a good idea after all." - Haiti President Cincinnatus Leconte, August 8, 1912

"My palace just got burned to the ground by the mob, and now they're gonna execute me on the front lawn!" - Haiti President Sylvain Salnave, January 15, 1870

[Gator113]

Are we going to give them all credit cards and send them to Texas?

Hey Texas... are you ready for this??

[Ramius]

Good article.

Gadzooks... by morning the place will be up to the rafters in zombies.

(sorry. couldn’t resist.)

[sueuprising]

Robertson believes in a literal devil, which, unfortunately, most people do not. Voodoo is an abomination to God and the people who practice it are involved in a great sin. Serving the devil, in the guise of a twisted Catholicism is asking for trouble.

[sueuprising]

“Gadzooks... by morning the place will be up to the rafters in zombies”
I bet you are not the only one thinking that...hehe

[MissEdie]

Someone please enlighten me, why isn’t the Dominican Republic as bad as Haiti? They are on the same island.

[aSeattleConservative]

Well said Sue.

[StormEye]

"I can't live in my palace...."

What a turd.

[dglang]

Gerat question to ask, it gets right to the ehart of the Issue. I believe that the Dominican Republic is largely Catholic and therefore somewhat if not mostly Christian. There is some occult influence there, but haiti is mostly Occultic or Santanna in religion.

Any nation where God is honored will be honored and protected by God. Where God is rejected, God has NO obligation to protect that nation or it’s peoples.

God would have spared Sodom and Gommorah if there weer ten righteous people there. If there were enough righteous Godly people in Haiti, He would have protected and spared it as well.

It is amazing that even the British press would recognize the Satanic natuer of Haiti when Britian as a nation is only about 1% Christian.

I have an evangelist friend who was born and raised in Britian and who is very well known world wide. He for a time ran a church here in Orlando before returning to Britian.

He shared with the church just how back sliden Britian is in it’s relationship with God.

I’ve recently received a few emails from my friend and he said that he will soon be returning here to plant another church. He stated that he is actively looking for a new venue to house the church.

[Travis McGee]

The DomRep was a Spanish colony, for better or worse, on a similar cultural track as Cuba or Puerto Rico.

Haiti was born of a slave rebellion in 1804, almost all of the whites were killed or driven off. Then they were set adrift in history for the 19th century, at least until after our civil war, as a bad example to our own slaves.

What emerged was a “tradition” (sic) of strongmen who do nothing but loot what they can for themselves, for as long as possible.

There is more, voodoo etc, but that’s a start.

[PowderMonkey]

I've spent time in both places. The Domincans were smart enough to wall themselves off from the Haitians early on. Different as night and day. The Dominicans have a popular expression when things aren't’ going well. They say “Hey! At least we ain't Haiti!” As near as I can figure, it's the lasting effect of the French colonial presence. It's the same in Africa. Francophone West Africa is a dump compared to the former British and Dutch/German colonies in East and Southern Africa...not to mention that voodoo arrived in Haiti from West Africa, and has kept the Haitians mired in darkness and superstition ever since.

[dglang]

I believe Santeria is the proper word. Syncretism - Santeria And Voodoo Yet another important example of syncretism can be found in the Caribbean. As a result of the slave trade, a host of West African religious beliefs were transplanted to Cuba, Haiti, and other Caribbean islands, as well as to Brazil, in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. There, they intermingled with the Roman Catholicism of the slave masters and plantation owners. The result was a set of syncretistic religions, the most important of which are Santeria and Voodoo (or Vodou). Santeria took shape primarily in Cuba and reflects for the most part the beliefs of the Yoruba people, who live in what is now Nigeria. The focus of the Yoruba (and other West African belief systems) is upon a pantheon of deities called orishas. However, in Santeria, these figures are often identified—that is, syncretized—with Catholic saints. A good example is Changó, a male god of thunder, lightning, and fire, who is nevertheless identified with St. Barbara, a devout young woman who lived in the fourth century C.E. and who was beheaded by her father for refusing to give up her Christian faith and marry according to his wishes. At the moment of her beheading her father was struck by lightning, and this gave rise to a legend that St. Barbara had power over lightning bolts. Although Changó is a masculine orisha, the similarities between this legend and the Yoruba traditions about him led to the syncretism in question. Haitian Voodoo (more properly Vodou or Vodun) is similar to Santeria in a great many ways, both in its African heritage and when it comes to syncretism. Here, the West African deities, primarily from Benin and Dahomey, are called loa and are also usually identified with Roman Catholic saints. For example, the serpent loa, Damballah, is often identified with St. Patrick, drawing on the legend that the latter drove the snakes out of Ireland. Houngan, or Voodoo priests, have long since adopted elements of Roman Catholicism in Voodoo rituals, including the use of candles, bells, crosses, the practices of baptism, and making the sign of the cross. These Christian elements are intertwined with such African religious practices as drumming, dancing, ancestor worship, and spirit possession. Read more: Syncretism - Santeria And Voodoo http://science.jrank.org/pages/11388/Syncretism-Santeria-Voodoo.html#ixzz0cdzzPYBi Syncretism - Santeria And Voodoo

[Tarpon]

Haiti used to have food, corn used to be grown in large quantity there. The Dominican Republic has food. Weird how the two parts of Hispaniola have decidedly different societies. The Dominican Republic also has a booming tourist industry.

Same Island different results. Maybe they should dump their dictators, thugs and criminals because I think that might be their real problem.

[Tarpon]

Haiti used to be a big producer of corn, rice and other crops.

[himno hero]

Just joking, a spin on Judeo - Christian

Voo-deo Christian

At the end of the day, they rely on voo-doo not Christianity.
If Africa they have merged a lot of things and frequently you see Islam married to their voodoo.... their juju. The witch doctor is politically tied to their eman.

Thats why they couple the slaughtering of sheep for sacrifice and subsequent bar be que.