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An Israeli Preventive Attack on Iran's Nuclear Sites: Implications for the U.S.
Heritage.org ^ | 1-15-10 | James Phillips

Posted on 01/15/2010 3:10:44 PM PST by SJackson

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1 posted on 01/15/2010 3:10:44 PM PST by SJackson
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To: jhpigott; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

*ping*


2 posted on 01/15/2010 4:43:02 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: SJackson
"A single wave of attacks would not bring lasting benefits"

That depends entirely on how many megatons are in that wave.

Nobody here is serious, everyone is navel gazing and looking around for excuses for their cowardice. There are no physical limits on anything for either Israel or the US. All of the limits are inside their heads and moral, not physical.

3 posted on 01/15/2010 5:45:15 PM PST by JasonC
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To: SJackson
Two things stick out in this article for me.

1. Any attack on Iran by Israel will trigger a war with Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, & likely Syria & Lebanon. Israel will then have to fight a ground & air war on multiple fronts.

2. Any Israeli attack on Iran's nuke facilities will have limited success & only delay the Iranian nuke program. It will not destroy it.

The second point does not seem to justify the first.

I believe there is another way:

The Iranian nuke program is dangerous primarily because of the regime that will control them - the mad mullahs & Imanutjob. Get rid of them & the biggest part of the problem is solved.

This seems to me to be far simpler & more likely to succeed than a protracted attack on Iran's nuke facilities. With the added benefit that it might help the “Greens” in Iran to oust the mullahs for good.

4 posted on 01/15/2010 6:02:39 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Mister Da

How do you know that whoever replaces them is not a Jew hater?
The opposition party has already stated that they will leave Islam in the government. Islam preachers hatred towards Jews. Those nuke sites have to go.


5 posted on 01/15/2010 6:12:28 PM PST by Islaminaction
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To: SJackson

A middle east conflict will go nuclear rapidly!


6 posted on 01/15/2010 6:29:52 PM PST by Doctor Don
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It’s hard for me to imagine that the Israeli’s could set the Iranian nuclear program back sufficiently with a conventional air strike (or even series of air strikes) to justify accepting the kind of political fall-out it would generate. Even Netanyahu won’t do this. They simply have no good options. They’ll watch it happen, and then depend on their own nuclear deterrent while they wait and hope for a more moderate Iranian government.


7 posted on 01/15/2010 11:18:36 PM PST by MeanFreePath
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To: Doctor Don

Doctor Don? You’re not from Grand Rapids are you?


9 posted on 06/05/2010 1:44:27 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: SJackson

Why I can post things that size?


10 posted on 06/05/2010 2:15:42 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: SJackson

Well written article and it parallels some of what I’ve been saying for awhile.


11 posted on 06/05/2010 2:31:44 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Doctor Don; All
A middle east conflict will go nuclear rapidly!

All the more reason for Israel to nuke Iran from the opening bell.

Three nukes, one for Bushehr (nuke AND major naval facility), one for Bandar-e Abbas (Iranian Navy HQ), and the city of Qom (alternate target, Tabriz - the Assahollah's home town).

The message to the mullahs and Ahmadinnerjacket?

We've destroyed a major portion of your nuke and naval resources, and that smoke smell wafting in your nose is what's left of Qom just down the road from Tehran, do you surrender now, or shall we add Tehran to the hash marks on the IDF tally?

A thoroughly radiated Iran would not only destroy any residual support for the mullahs among the population ("guz bin rashid!!!!" (may there be farts upon your beards!), but nuking Iran would send a message to the Syrians as well, which is simple: "don't f--k with Israel!"

Israel is going to catch Hell on a global basis if they so much as flick a booger in the direction of Iran, so there is no reason for them not to go for broke.
12 posted on 06/05/2010 2:54:42 AM PDT by mkjessup (I stand with Israel and the IDF ... and so should any freedom loving human being.)
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It is starting to look like Israel will need to take out Turkey, as well. The Islamic madness around Israel is about to go critical. Obama's weakness/collaboration with the aggressors will lead to a widespread war.
13 posted on 06/05/2010 3:41:42 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29
Obama's weakness/collaboration with the aggressors will lead to a widespread war.

Arabs see Obama as weak - or with them - that will invite attacks on Israel ...

Vultures are circling.

14 posted on 06/05/2010 4:08:11 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: SJackson

Israel could destroy Iran’s nuclear program by seizing control of a few select sites.

Neutron weapons detonated above the sites would kill everything out to a radius of a few hundred to perhaps a thousand yards. Drop in IDF troops, take control of the sites and after establishing shelter in case further neutron devices are needed then proceed to demolish the underground sites. The Iranians would not be able to approach the sites regardless of what they tried. Small neutron devices would kill them inside tanks, planes, whatever. rinse,lather,repeat as needed.

Bunker buster type nuclear weapons would not guarantee destruction of the sites. They would have to detonate at considerable depth and very very close to the underground bunkers. Only demolition teams would be able to guarantee destruction of the underground sites. Nuclear bunker busters would also create a huge radioactive mess when inevitably one or more blasts breached the ground. Neutron blasts would not physically destroy anything non-biological on the ground and would leave no radioactive contamination.

The neutron weapons could be launched by sub, plane, jericho missile or even by the IDF forces on the ground.

This type of attack would leave 2 Israeli subs free to roam and also the bulk of Israeli air assets would remain over Israel for protection.

Think Entebbe x 10,000


15 posted on 06/05/2010 4:39:18 AM PDT by Bobalu ( "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." ..Moshe Dayan:)
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To: GOPJ
In honor of the raid on that Gaza-bound flotilla, and Helen Thomas's remark that the Jews should go back to Germany and Poland (no mistaking what that means, in a historical context!), here's the Furgan Dugal (Hosed Vessel) song:

" The flag high! The convoy tightly closed!
Al Qaeda sailors brave the Zionist blockade.
Sleeper agents carrying contraband, shot by the Israeli commandos
March in spirit in our ranks.

Clear the seas for the brown flotillas,
Where the hell are my 72 virgins?
Already millions look with hope to the crescent
The day of the new leftist Caliphate is dawning!

CNN has sounded for the last time
We are all already prepared for the fight!
Soon Islam's flag will fly over all streets.
Teh One, Teh Obamessiah is with us!

The flag high! The convoy tightly closed!
Al Qaeda sailors brave the Zionist blockade
Bernadine Doehrn, William Ayers and Code Pink
March in spirit in our ranks. "

Cheers!

16 posted on 06/05/2010 4:41:56 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Mister Da

You know this, how? Not being privy to any attack plans it is a stretch to say immediate multi front war would result. You are forgetting the major money players who want Iran out just as they wanted Iraq out...the House of Saud. An effective attack would cull the lesser players who are well compromised now or they would have done something long ago. It is possible to both destroy the program sites and the leadership. Russia wouldn’t be happy, though there are factions there who would welcome the political change w/out Iran in the Politburo.


17 posted on 06/05/2010 5:51:20 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: grey_whiskers

Good one! Thanks.


18 posted on 06/05/2010 6:14:25 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: SJackson

If Iran is attacked by Israel, it is likely that at least one of our Nimitz class carriers will be destroyed by the waves of missiles that will be fired into the Persian Gulf. Our troops would also be attacked in Iraq and Afghanistan by Iranian forces.


19 posted on 06/05/2010 8:21:16 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Yehuda
All the bad scenarios are based on if Israel shoots first. Unless I missed it, here is what I see is missing from the above analysis. If Israel lets Iran get off the first shot and it’s “successful”, and espeically if Hezbullah / Hamas /Syria any other idiot muslim regime decides to join the party, Israel’s retaliation will not be limited to Iran.

Actually, Israel is in a better strategic position than the article indicates.

First, as you mentioned...and because they know the muslim mind...they can provoke Iran into shooting pretty much any time they want to. Severe pressure on Hamas/Gaza...strikes in Lebanon against Hizbollah...strikes in Syria against WMD and Iranian weapons depots.

All the while taunting Iran publicly about their impotence to protect their allies.

The second strategic advantage is that once Israel does strike...whether first or in response...there is NO WAY the US and many of the Gulf states will be able to stay out of it due to Iran's certain attempts to hurt western oil interests in the Gulf...and probable attempt to shut the strait.

Israel can pretty much drive the onset, course and conclusion of the conflict with Iran.

20 posted on 06/05/2010 9:05:11 AM PDT by Mariner (The first Presidential candidate to call for deportation, wins.)
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