Posted on 01/22/2010 10:53:54 PM PST by greatdefender
Trijicon, the gunsight maker that has imprinted Bible verse numbers on its scopes, has announced that it will no longer imprint the verses on the sides of scopes intended for the U.S. military, and will also provide clients with the kits to remove the Bible verse numbers from existing scopes.
An ABC News report earlier this week revealed that the Michigan-based company, which has a contract to provide up to 800,000 scopes to the U.S. military, prints references to New Testament chapters and verses in code next to the model numbers of its scopes. The scopes are used by the U.S. Marine Corps and Army in Iraq and Afghanistan, and by U.S. allies in those countries, and for the training of Afghan and Iraqi troops.
"Trijicon has proudly served the U.S. military for more than two decades, and our decision to offer to voluntarily remove these references is both prudent and appropriate," said Stephen Bindon, Trijicon president and CEO in a statement. "We want to thank the Department of Defense for the opportunity to work with them and will move as quickly as possible to provide the modification kits for deployment overseas."
Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said the Department of Defense "applauds the voluntary actions announced today by Trijicon."
Morrell said the coded Bible reference were clearly inappropriate. Said Morrell, "It is not the policy of the Department of Defense to put religious references of any kind on its equipment."
Earlier today, Gen. David Petraeus, who commands CentCom, which oversees U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, told a D.C. thinktank that the company's practice was "disturbing …and a serious concern for me" and field commanders. He said there had been considerable discussions within the Department of Defense about how to deal with Trijicon's practice.
(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...
What's the old saying? Just before a mob guy ices a guy from another gang?
"Nothin' poysonal, ya un'erstan'. Jus' biznezz!" :-\
Pussies don’t win wars.
Man, I hate this PC stuff.
“Pardon me, mister muslim gentleman shouting ‘allahu akhbar,’ but could I inconvenience you for your opinion on the most inoffensive weapon I should use to kill you with?”
Remember, we are no longer a Christian nation... per the CIC.
This is what you get when citizens haven’t internalized the founding fathers on the importance of ALLEGIANCE re: natural born citizenship.
Snip:
“I was a little Jakarta street kid,” he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on my blog, www.nytimes.com/ontheground). He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics — and more likely to be aware of their nationalism — if he once studied the Koran with them.
Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
Moreover, Mr. Obama’s own grandfather in Kenya was a Muslim. Mr. Obama never met his grandfather and says he isn’t sure if his grandfather’s two wives were simultaneous or consecutive, or even if he was Sunni or Shiite. (O.K., maybe Mr. Obama should just give up on Alabama.)
Obama, Man of the World by Nick Kristof
http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=1
AC360: Barack Obama’s Interview With Al-Arabiya (remember, first interview as president)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rueFzxwXaxM&feature=related
(also remember all during his run, no one was muslim in his family and the right was excoriated about this)
Check this out from :55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYWeK4w3PKk
He said he knew Islam on three continents before coming to where it was revealed. He also said he lived in muslim countries/plural in the al Arabiya vid... what other muslim country did he live in besides Indonesia is the question.
Of course we have Muammar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZiqexz7aqQ&feature=related
Simple CBS piece on how the Muslim world feels about Obama. Did the muslim world think he would be different only because he was black? As someone who knows how blacks are treated within Islam and saw posters of Obama in every Yemeni, Pakistani, Saudi, Iranian and African Sunni shops in NYC, I know that’s not the reason. They believed it because they know he has muslim roots and many pointed out why they thought it was taqiyya (lying to advance Islam), vs. just a kid who studied in a school in Indonesia. You know what is required of someone who leaves Islam... have you ever heard calls against him from the muslim world?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MGbSzMfPME&feature=related
His message marking the start of Ramadan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D376WnU4nv4&feature=fvw
Now search for the Christmas one. Look at his record of previous presidents Christmas traditions, dinners, celebrations broken. Or all the church going as well as his covering of Jesus name at Georgetown or his Faith Councils work now re: removing religious icons/symbols of anyplace that takes fed money.
Allegiance.
Don’t get me started on his twisting and mocking of scripture.
General Petraeus is slowly morphing into General Casey Version 2.0, and that is terrible news for anyone who has common sense in today’s military.
Thanks for the link.
“But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost”
Phillipians 1:18:
“What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.”
By making a huge issue of this, the Pentagon is being used to further the purpose of the Lord. If they had just kept it quite or not made an issue of it, it would have been kept in the shadows and out of the news. Now, these scriptures will be looked up and studied by many in the military unaware of them before as well as by those in the ME who may be curious about what was printed.
The gospel preached regardless of the messenger. The Lord has His ways. :-)
There is a certain grim humour involved in putting bible verses in rifle scopes. I think I’ll write the company expressing my approval. What is the Psalm dedicated by David to the God of battles? Blasted old age I forget.
Response: On our souls with leadership like that. "Where there is no vision the people perish."- The Bible
I don’t blame Trijicon at all for offering to take it off if the govt. didn’t want it on there. What is disturbing to me is the damn govt. people who have nothing better to do than nitpick what is on the sights. What about putting “In God we Trust” on the sights. Since that’s still on our money(It’s a wonder)they ought to not have a problem with that?
The Halo BR has 3-round burst.
HMMM wonder if any of those bullets and mortors are also incripted? Of course to find it you must hit them with a hammer to open them to see inside......!;) *sarcasm* You know you’d think with all of this time on their haands they’d look into Obama’s background a little more?
So does the RFB - if you’re military.
As was pointed out in an earlier thread the company had been using this for over two decades. These numbers were put on low light scopes (lighted sights without batteries) and the verses used referred to light.
For example, the letters on the scope might be: ACOG4x32JN8:12
ACOG stands for Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight
4x32 means it is a 4 power scope
JN8:12 is the abbreviation for John 8:12 which says “whoever follows me will never walk in darkness”
Wusses!! >:-(
Shame on them for caving!! How many companies are out there that produce these kinds of items? Dozens? Hundreds? What if they ALL decided to thumb their noses at the anti-Christian elements in the government?!?! Feh.
At my unit we put our own little captions on the buttstock. One guy has “Hebrew Hammer” on his. Mine says “Ticket to Paradise”
True. Anything to freak them out!
Well Gee Morrell, Petraeus, DOD, your equipment in the White House was called “Black Jesus’ by his campaign people during his election.
Can we wipe out his imprint anytime soon?
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