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Our Vanishing Ultimate Resource (People)
City Journal ^ | Winter 2010 | Steven Malanga

Posted on 01/29/2010 2:28:37 PM PST by Bokababe

Long but fascinating article on how economies, birthrates, social policies and taxes are all affecting each other, and prosperity, freedom and having lots of babies go hand in had.

Short version: Help the US economy by having more babies!

(Excerpt) Read more at city-journal.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: italy; japan; socialpolicy; us
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1 posted on 01/29/2010 2:28:37 PM PST by Bokababe
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To: Bokababe

get to work people!!


2 posted on 01/29/2010 2:30:20 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: bmwcyle

ping


3 posted on 01/29/2010 2:32:26 PM PST by theKid51
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To: dcwusmc; bamahead; djsherin; rabscuttle385; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; mkjessup

How freedom, low taxes and having babies relate to a county’s economic prosperity.


4 posted on 01/29/2010 2:34:28 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

The Culture of Life versus ...

The democrat party, who is the financier of baby murder assembly lines and death panels!


5 posted on 01/29/2010 2:37:06 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: Bokababe

Just finished reading Mark Steyn’s “America Alone”, it is about this subject. It will scare you as to where we will be in 50 years. The US birth rate is at 2.11 kids per family, barely enough to keep the country (culture) going. Most Muslim countries are closer to 5-6 kids per family. They will out breed us and take over. In Italy the rate is barely 1 per family, in 50 years they will breed themselves, the Italian culture, out of existence.


6 posted on 01/29/2010 2:41:03 PM PST by stickandrudder (Another Bitter-Clinger ----- Molon Labe ----- Let's Roll!)
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To: Bokababe
I'm sorry....whenever I read articles about "needing to have more babies" I just roll my eyes.

You don't have to be an environmentalist to know we have finite resources and cannot expand infinitely. Populations will fluctuate to achieve an equilibrium.

I personally feel like the Earth would be a better place if our population adjusted down a couple billion.

7 posted on 01/29/2010 2:41:24 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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Can’t say I disagree. War, disease, and famine usually are the catalysts to achieve that equilibrium.


8 posted on 01/29/2010 2:54:56 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
"You don't have to be an environmentalist to know we have finite resources and cannot expand infinitely. Populations will fluctuate to achieve an equilibrium."

I was raised on the dictum of "limited resources so populations should limit themselves". What I found interesting about this article was that it somewhat contradicted that maxim with evidence, especially in industrial countries.

It seems that humans find new resources or create them in or to sustain themselves -- a complete contradiction to what most of us were taught to believe.

9 posted on 01/29/2010 2:59:59 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: GeronL

Unfortunately, most of the potential work force are ill-equipped to do anything but ask “ Do you want fries with that?”.... some of the rest of the available work force are living off the fat of the [EBT] land....


10 posted on 01/29/2010 3:05:45 PM PST by Gaffer ("Profling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Afraid to ask how you think that could be accomplished!!


11 posted on 01/29/2010 3:11:05 PM PST by molybdenum ( Now go do the right thing!------Dr Laura)
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To: Bokababe
"Help the US economy by having more babies!"

I've given the US economy six hard-working Americans. I've done my part.

Man, am I tired .. LOL

12 posted on 01/29/2010 3:21:03 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Drive the US from coast to coast and see just how much empty space we have in this country alone. It’ll boggle your mind.

Now repeat that exercise on a couple of other continents, and you’ll quickly change your mind about the human race being in danger of running out of space, or resources.

Some university study once found that you could put the population of the earth (all 6 billion) in standard three bedroom houses (two car garage, with yards and all - four people per house), in typical suburban tracts, and they would all fit neatly inside the state of Texas.


13 posted on 01/29/2010 3:26:37 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
You and Obama’s science adviser would see eye to eye, but you both would be wrong. The title of this thread refers to a book originally published in 1981 by Princeton called “The Ultimate Resource.” Its author, Julian Simon wagered anyone $20,000 that they could not find diminishing natural resources, the underlying theme being that humans and human intelligence improve the human condition. John Holdren, Paul Erlich (Holdren’s mentor, and author of the ridiculously wrong book called “The Population Bomb”), John Harte, from Holdren’s (Marxist)cell at U.C. Berkeley (called the Energy and Environment Group), and Ehrlich's wife, whom I believe, besides being a biologist, is on the board of The Sierra Club took up Simon's challenge. To get to the point, they picked a collection of minerals and were wrong on every pick. They didn't have the confidence to take up Simon on the full amount of the wager, but split the wager among each other and bet upon five or so minerals.

Human’s are the ultimate resource, while that seems to many, counterintuitive. Overpopulation is not the problem. The lack of free enterprise is the problem. Many countries are crippled by centrally controlled economies. The U.S. is showing the effects of central planning. Holdren and Ehrlich propose active measures to cut world population by more than half, probably because, like many arrogant academician/idiologues, they never produced anything other than criticism of the productive society themselves. Holdren is now a Theresa Kerry funded idiologue at Harvard's Kennedy school while Paul Ehrlich is a Bing Professor and Anne get's funded by Tides, Environmental Defense Fund (trial lawyers) and their fellow travelers. When Norman Borlaug’s green revolution, genetic engineering, took hold in Bangladesh, contrary to Ehrlich's prediction of hundreds of millions of deaths from starvation, Bangladesh became a food exporter.

14 posted on 01/29/2010 3:26:47 PM PST by Spaulding
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Oh please.


15 posted on 01/29/2010 3:29:46 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Bokababe

You’re right, where will all the soylent green come from?


16 posted on 01/29/2010 3:34:03 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Bokababe

I actually wasn’t thinking about the economy at the time, although I think about the economy fairly often. My husband has been known to find conversations that start, “Dr. Friedman said ...” off-putting.


17 posted on 01/29/2010 3:34:38 PM PST by Tax-chick (Thou hast well drunken, man - who's the fool now?)
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To: Spaulding

Interesting post.


18 posted on 01/29/2010 4:20:55 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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The birthrate amongst people who raise productive members of society is too low. That of the group who breed dependents on society is WAY TOO HIGH.

Conclusion, anybody with any sense at all knows that the resource base is finite ...more isn’t the answer.


19 posted on 01/29/2010 4:43:41 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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The birthrate amongst people who raise productive members of society is too low...

Well, forgive me if I assume that most of the people that I am talking to here on FR are "productive members of society" who should be breeding. LOL!

Conclusion, anybody with any sense at all knows that the resource base is finite ...more isn’t the answer.

Well of course, it's "finite". But when productive members of society quit breeding to try and make up for the high breeding rates of the non-productive, that's when we've really got problems.

I was raised on that Liberal idea of a human population explosion, assuming it was responsible NOT to have kids -- or have only one to make up for those who were breeding like rabbits -- when precisely the opposite is true. The better off you are the more kids you should be having because their productivity makes up for their use of resources and may even create resources that don't currently exist.

20 posted on 01/29/2010 5:25:19 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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