Posted on 02/01/2010 7:12:12 AM PST by meandog
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
This is clearly a government run media....Why else would they be pushing for a Bush monarchy? Gezzuz...
Now there’s a great idea.
Q And Im not trying to play gotcha, but I wonder, when you look back over the long arc of your presidency, do you think, in retrospect, that you have made any mistakes? And if so, what is the single biggest mistake that you may have made?THE PRESIDENT: Gotcha. I have often said that history will look back and determine that which could have been done better, or, you know, mistakes I made. Clearly putting a Mission Accomplished on a aircraft carrier was a mistake. It sent the wrong message. We were trying to say something differently, but nevertheless, it conveyed a different message. Obviously, some of my rhetoric has been a mistake.
Enough!
No more dynasties! If Jeb was elected, then Clinton and Obama would truly be the turds between the bushes.
Just. Say. No.
But to point to that as W's defining moment (like pointing to the breaking of the "no new taxes" pledge of GHWB's defining moment) just seems silly in my book. If you want to point at the W's expansion of entitlements like medicare perscriptions, or his failure to veto andy of the massive pork-laden spending bills, or even his support of the banking bailouts as his legacy defining moments, I would agree that he mades some huge mistakes. The "mission accomplished" sign might make a top ten list of his mistakes, but it would be toward the bottom of that list.
Wow. Preview is your friend.
Dear God in Heaven, please - no more Bushes.
I was generally agreeing with you, with the minor nitpick of it being a carrier, not a battleship. It’s a pp of mine. Way too many people refer to a battleship whenever they mean a warship of any type. Also the ship is still in service. That was more of an update rather than a contradiction.
My comment about the lie was more in general response to a common perception that GW’s “mission accomplished” was a lie.
The banner, it has since been determined, was indeed put up by the Bush people, not by the ship or the Navy. I would assume he was therefore trying to say something about the war in general. While the mission of regime change had indeed been accomplished, and nobody would have thought much about the speech had the resistance not kicked into high gear shortly thereafter, it was another example of the Bush administration being shockingly tone-deaf politically.
No. No. No.
JUST what we need...another “moderate” Bush. From the family which gave us Souter and was FORCED to put Alito and Roberts on the court! Do us a favor Jeb, go fight global warming. Save the whales. Demand the “morning after pill” for illegals. Join the gun-grabbing Brady bunch. No one will pay any attention to you anyhow. But PLEASE leave the United States alone.
Like Jesse Jackson once said “Keep out ‘da Bushes”.
Please, not another RINO Pubbie claiming a right to the crown. The MSM will push this for all it’s worth.
Remember, the MSM will pick our candidate for us, because us dumb hicks think we want Gov Palin to be elected POTUS.
We can’t have that now, can we?
Thanks. I knew it was a carrier, and meant to type carrier. When I saw that I had typed battleship, (after I had posted it), it was one of those “Oh S**t!” moments.
And I remembered that it was a completion of the ship’s mission that was being celebrated, but in the passage of time since the event I had somehow morphed that from just the completion of the deployment to the ship being retired. Had I checked the details to refresh my memory before posting, I would have avoided that little technical linguistic faux pas as well.
I do believe - based on what I have read from a couple of sources now - that while the sign was printed by the White House folks, it was requested by the ship’s personnel and hung there by them. In hindsight, Bush should have drawn a contrast between the fact that the ship’s mission was indeed complete there was still much to accomplish in Iraq; though regime change had been started, there was still much to do in terms of protecting the gains that had been made; though major combat operations against the Iraqi government were completed, the fight to protect the Iraqi people from the forces of terrorism would involve greater commitment and sacrifice. Even the drive-by media would have then had a hard time misrepresenting the nature of the celebration of the Lincoln’s accomplishments.
No more Bush’s!!!!!
Well, let me ask you to reflect on something then: Presidents (as well as celebrated dignitaries) visiting troops in combat zones may have flack jackets on but NONE have ever shown up in a pair of BDU combat fatigues carrying a rifle. I recall LBJ coming to Vietnam back in the 60s with a brown jacket and a stetson hat but he wasn’t in a military uniform...neither was Reagan, nor Ford, nor Bush I, nor Carter (and, as far as Clinton goes, he’d have been laughed at had he tried it). But “Mission Accomplished” showed up in a Navy flight suit, making a trap via a Navy jet. He could have taken his Marine I sea stallion to come aboard but, for the publicity, he chose the former. It was a stunt, pure and simple!
OK. And this wasn’t in a combat zone, it was a ship returning from a long deployment. And as a former pilot, Bush decided to participate in the CELEBRATION of that ship’s accomplishments by landing on the ship in a fighter plane wearing a flight suit appropriate for that landing. Stunt or not, he was celebrating with the ship’s crew the completion of a historical mission. If you think that is a defining moment of his presidency, fair enough. We have a difference of opinion.
Either way, I would agree that Jeb has little chance at even the GOP nomination, let alone winning the electoral vote to become President. Jeb may be a fine person, may be a very good leader, and may be a great conservative. (I really don’t know enough about his record as FL governor to say one way or the other.) But I don’t want to see him try to run for President regardless.
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