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To: danamco
Is a naturalized US citizen eligible to occupy the White House??

Nope. If you had decent reading comprehension skills, you would realize that wasn't my point. My point was that even if Obama were born in Kenya, there would have been no motive for Mama Obama or Toot to committ felony fraud in order to register his birth in the USA. She could have scured his naturalized citizenship via perfectly legal means. Hence there is no reason to doubt the veracity of Hawaii's official record showing that he was born in the USA.

Now it's true Bambi wouldn't be able to run for president had his mom secured naturalized citizenship for him, but I seriously doubt anyone would risk a felony fraud conviction just to make her baby eligible to run for president decades down the road.

Or do you actually believe that Mama Obama committed fraud just in case her son would one day want to run for president?

328 posted on 02/05/2010 2:17:33 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity; butterdezillion; LucyT
"My point was that even if Obama were born in Kenya, there would have been no motive for Mama Obama or Toot to committ felony fraud in order to register his birth in the USA. She could have scured his naturalized citizenship via perfectly legal means. Hence there is no reason to doubt the veracity of Hawaii's official record showing that he was born in the USA."

1. You assume that Ann and Toot knew the US statute would permit easy naturalization of BHO II. You have no way of knowing that. You don't know what they knew or what they did based on what they thought they knew.

2. The fact that Obama won't release his HI vital records, including all amendments and corrections (if any), is a glaring reason to doubt that HI is the original place of birth in the record filed with the DOH Aug 8th 1961 that triggered the newspaper notices.

3. You have not eliminated other possible reasons to doubt that the original, unamended HI vital record has Kenya on them as a location of birth or hospital address.

Consider the Blaine long form BC as a hypothetical valid BC which maps perfectly to the summary fields on the Factcheck COLB with a location of birth showing Honolulu and the hospital address showing "Unknown - Kenya, Africa."

HI officials could refer truthfully to the unamended Blaine BC and declare that BHO II's location of birth was Honolulu, while ignoring the conflicting hospital address.

The Blaine BC demonstrates possible entries on an original long form BC, and a sequence of events (signature dates, statutory notation reflecting 1982 law change, and subsequent amendment) requiring no conspiracy by Ann and Toot.

If the Blaine document or hypothetical is true you have not accounted for a possible conspiracy by Obama and his agents to amend the HI vital records subsequent to 1982 to change the birth hospital address from "Unknown - Kenya, Africa" to "Honolulu."

HI officials would then be required to refer only to the representations in the amended vital record, while scrupulously avoiding mention or disclosure of the amendment or conflicting information. This also appears to be exactly what they are doing.

329 posted on 02/05/2010 4:46:15 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: curiosity

I believe Hawaii’s loose laws regarding COLB’s to foreign born just happened to work out for Zero. People in the Orient from the Phillipines to Mainland China knew Hawaii was the place to get USA citizenship.


332 posted on 02/06/2010 4:17:33 AM PST by Lumper20
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To: curiosity

I believe Hawaii’s loose laws regarding COLB’s to foreign born just happened to work out for Zero. People in the Orient from the Phillipines to Mainland China knew Hawaii was the place to get USA citizenship.


333 posted on 02/06/2010 4:17:53 AM PST by Lumper20
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To: curiosity
Or do you actually believe that Mama Obama committed fraud just in case her son would one day want to run for president?

Yes I sure do and multiple S.S. numbers proves it clearly!!

334 posted on 02/06/2010 11:34:42 AM PST by danamco
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