Posted on 02/04/2010 5:55:09 PM PST by ezfindit
A large wooden cross was placed at an Air Force Academy worship area for pagans and other Earth-centered religions, prompting an investigation by academy officials, though some caution that it’s hardly “destructive behavior.”
Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, said an Air Force Academy staffer spotted the cross — erected with railroad ties — lying against a rock at a worship area for pagan groups at the academy in Colorado Springs, Colo., on Jan. 17.
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Amen
There is no theology in paganism. If paganism is a religion, then so is atheism.
smoking that crack again?
why do we need to be saved from a fate we don’t believe in? The only thing we need to be saved from is a straw death.
It would be just like a scientologist coming up to you and telling you that even though you dont believe in it... tom cruse can still free you of your high theaten count. How would that make you feel? you would blow it off and then get annoyed when they keep harassing you. We are in the same boat.
dont forget that many of your forefathers came here because of the same persecution in england.
My Christianity is taken from the Bible, not a lot of pagan compromise found there.
The pre-Christian history of the fish symbol:
The fish symbol has been used for millennia worldwide as a religious symbol associated with the Pagan Great Mother Goddess. It is the outline of her vulva. The fish symbol was often drawn by overlapping two very thin crescent moons. One represented the crescent shortly before the new moon; the other shortly after, when the moon is just visible. The Moon is the heavenly body that has long been associated with the Goddess, just as the sun is a symbol of the God.
Need I go on?... I can do this allll night
and we DO have a set of belefis. We are NOT atheists. You beleave a god lives in the heavens, I think that *several* gods live in the heavens.
Ever wonder why the domains of the angels happen to line up exactly with the domains of many pagan gods that predate them by hundreds or thousands of years? and not just nordic gods. germanic gods, egyption gods, shinto gods, etc.
Not all pagans worship wood or the earth...
Not all christians worship mother mary as the head of the church of christ or eat of the flesh of jeasus....
That is correct. It allowed Christians (it s a proper noun, you know), to worship without being killed. It was a form of hiding in plain sight, which any religion might have done in a pagan society where religion was not allowed.
The important thing is paganism is not a theology. There may have been ritual, but there is no God. The pagans would have reacted badly to Jews as well.
We should not equate atheistic clubs with monotheistic religions. Paganism, while ritualistic, is no more a religion than my ritual of getting up every morning, taking a shower, and commuting to work. Tens of thousands join the ritual in my city. You could set you clock to it, just like you can set your clock to the sun rising over Stonehenge on the equinox. That does not may our morning ritual a religious exercise.
Good for you,
just dont listen to ANYTHING that has come out of rome or any other organized christian organization and you may yet live by just the true teachings of jesus christ. I truly do wish you luck in that, i mean no sarcasm in that.
Take what the jews know of Yahweh and add in the new testiment and leave it at that.
LOL, yeah, it’s a real nightmare.
How would General George Washington handle this?
At least with Christianity, Judaism, ((shudder)) Islam, Hinduism, and even Zoroastrianism we can trace them from their beginnings and know where the practitioners are being true to their beliefs.
These earth religions are recent fantasies built around a smattering of ancient artifacts with no frames of reference to say what was or wasn’t of religious significance. As far as Christianity using old pagan symbols, It makes sense for a smart religion to do that but it really doesn’t matter because of the religious significance behind them.
I used to work with two wiccans from different sides of town and they hated each other because both claimed to be wiccan but neither could agree to what the rites were or what anything meant.
Ditto to what you said.
Ken in Texas
USAFA, Class of ‘73
It is called the Bible … Old and New Testament.
I am a pagan
I worship Thor
I worship Odin
I worship Tyr
I worship Val
I worship Eastare
I worship Freya
I worship Frigg
I believe in the goddess Hel (another term stolen....)
I believe in Loki
we have many gods.. as many as you have angels
The term pagan came from paganus which was a term for anyone of a “non-Abrahamic faith”
I agree one shouldn’t dismiss the incident lightly, but one shouldn’t also overreact to it.
Freedom of religion gives pagans the right to worship as they please. Freedom of speech gives others the right to tell the pagans their religion is a joke or worse, an abomination.
It’s one thing to tell people to leave the stupid witches alone, to respect their right to “worship” in peace. It’s something else to equate the cross with hate speech.
Heh. I have a wreath on my front door and it doesn't do crap to the cold weather, though it looks nice ;)
Pagan gods (lowercase) predate God (proper noun)?
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." (Genesis 1:1, NIV)
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (John 1:1, NIV)
That is the joke of "modern" paganism. Even the Greeks believed in Zeus, the Romans in Jove, and the American Indians in The Great Spirit (a.k.a. The Creator a.k.a. The Creator Spirit).
Sure, there are parallels, messenger lesser gods like Mercury and messenger angels like Gabriel. But I hardly believe these somehow disprove monotheism in favor of polytheism. In fact, I believe they prove the opposite. Remember monotheist prophets such as Noah, Abraham, and Moses walked the Earth after the Greek and Roman gods had long left.
That said, where is the formal structure of said pagan theology and denomination? Without it, it is just a bunch of rebellious 20 year olds who rebelliousness should give pause to their proposed careers as military officers.
Gods? The Nephilim.
Exactly....
if you want to be a good christian and not follow pagan rights and rituals you will do what it says in the old and new Testament ONLY
tell me, do you celebrate christmas? do you do so on dec 25th? If so you do so because of something that Constantine did 375ish years AFTER Jesus died.
The date of December 25th originated with the ancient “birthday” of the son-god, Mithra, a pagan deity whose religious influence became widespread in the Roman Empire during the first few centuries A.D. Mithra was related to the Semitic sun-god, Shamash, and his worship spread throughout Asia to Europe where he was called Deus Sol Invictus Mithras. Rome was well-known for absorbing the pagan religions and rituals of its widespread empire. As such, Rome converted this pagan legacy to a celebration of the god, Saturn, and the rebirth of the sun god during the winter solstice period. The winter holiday became known as Saturnalia and began the week prior to December 25th. The festival was characterized by gift-giving, feasting, singing and downright debauchery, as the priests of Saturn carried wreaths of evergreen boughs in procession throughout the Roman temples.
Variations of this pagan holiday flourished throughout the first few centuries after Jesus Christ, but it wasn’t until 336 AD that Emperor Constantine officially converted this pagan tradition into the “Christian” holiday of Christmas
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