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History of England starts at 1700, says university
The Telegraph ^ | 2/11/2010 | Graeme Paton

Posted on 02/11/2010 3:19:42 PM PST by bruinbirdman

Academics have attacked a decision by a top university to scrap research into English history before 1700.

It was claimed that the move by Sussex University risked jeopardising the nation’s understanding of the subject and “entrenching the ignorance of the present”.

Under plans, research and in-depth teaching into periods such as the Tudors, the Middle-Ages, Norman Britain, the Viking invasion and the Anglo-Saxons will be scrapped, along with the Civil Wars.

The university will also end research into the history of continental Europe pre-1900, affecting the study of the Napoleonic wars and the Roman Empire.

The university said it was “reshaping” its curriculum and research following a £3m cut in Government funding.

Last week, universities across the country were told their budgets were to be slashed by £449 million next year, including a £215m reduction in teaching funding, with threats of further cuts in the future.

Lord Mandelson, the Business Secretary, has claimed that institutions can use the opportunity to focus resources on their strongest areas.

But in a letter to The Daily Telegraph, 17 leading historians said the move was short-sighted and risked undermining the public’s understanding of the past.

“To cut everything but the most modern puts in peril the public function of history, entrenching the arrogance of the present and making a mockery of the claim by the

minister behind these cuts that 'we also wish to keep this country civilised',” said the letter.

The academics, who all trained at Sussex, said that the decision to sever ties with European history before 1900 was a particularly retrograde step.

“For a university which has long prided itself on its European links to abandon the serious study of such pivotal areas of modern history as the French Revolution will mean depriving Sussex graduates of the mental furniture of educated

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1 posted on 02/11/2010 3:19:42 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Making it all the more easy to be overrun by the muzzies.


2 posted on 02/11/2010 3:22:02 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer. Are you prepared?)
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To: bruinbirdman

Do they have no private universities? All are at the mercy of government? Well, hopefully they have some independent historians.


3 posted on 02/11/2010 3:22:08 PM PST by Old_Grouch (62 and AARP-free)
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To: Old_Grouch

As long as 1776 was included in limey history, I have no problems with it.


4 posted on 02/11/2010 3:23:16 PM PST by max americana
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To: bruinbirdman

Yes, English history begins roughly with the establishment of the Bank of England.


5 posted on 02/11/2010 3:25:44 PM PST by Ozone34 ("There are only two philosophies: Thomism and bullshitism!" -Leon Bloy)
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To: max americana

1215 is candidly more imporant for us all.


6 posted on 02/11/2010 3:27:04 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: bruinbirdman

In the beginning there were hot lumps.


7 posted on 02/11/2010 3:29:39 PM PST by Nick Danger (Free cheese is found only in mousetraps)
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To: bruinbirdman

1700 Marked the end of the monarchy as such and the beginning of Government by the people. The concepts of Socialism were being debated in France and England late in the 1700’s. I wonder if that has anything to do with it?


8 posted on 02/11/2010 3:29:51 PM PST by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: bruinbirdman

In South Carolina it starts in 1877. heh


9 posted on 02/11/2010 3:30:52 PM PST by GeronL (Dignity is earned from yourself. Respect is earned from others.)
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To: GeronL

No King Canute

No Magna Carta.

No Richard the Lion-Heart.

No Crusades.

No Robin Hood.

No Simon de Montfort.

No Elizabeth I

No Spanish Armada


10 posted on 02/11/2010 3:33:53 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Jewbacca

Ah yes!

A document or a law recognizing basic rights and privileges.

From Latin magna carta (great charter). After Magna Carta, a charter of political and civil liberties that King John of England was forced to sign on June 15, 1215. It was revised several times over the years, and it became an important symbol, establishing for future generations that there were limits to royal power


11 posted on 02/11/2010 3:33:53 PM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Gotta erase that pesky Medieval Warm Period...


12 posted on 02/11/2010 3:34:55 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

England, circling the bowl...

You must know where you come from. I guess no one’s gonna crack open some Churchill in British academia?


13 posted on 02/11/2010 3:39:30 PM PST by DesertConservative
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To: Ben Mugged

The Glorious Revolution of 1689 virtually ended personal rule by the monarch, although George III made an effective end run around that. But the real power now lay with the aristocracy, and it was pretty autocratic. The number of people voting in parliamentary elections feel during the 18th Century, and “democracy” did not comes until Parliamentary Reforms in the 1830s, but certainly in 1867 when Disraeli extended the ballot beyond the Middle class.


14 posted on 02/11/2010 3:45:22 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: CondorFlight

No Cromwell. Yet there he stands outside the House of Parliament.


15 posted on 02/11/2010 3:46:54 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: bruinbirdman

So it begins. Eliminate everything Christian and western about England and jump right into the “Age of Imperialism.”


16 posted on 02/11/2010 3:50:01 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: bruinbirdman

Insanity!


17 posted on 02/11/2010 3:51:05 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: rdl6989

They can rewrite history books but they can’t make history go away.


18 posted on 02/11/2010 3:53:31 PM PST by ully2 (ully)
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To: RobbyS; Ben Mugged
The problem is you can't understand the Glorious Revolution if you don't understand the Tudor/Stuart history, and you can't understand that if you don't understand the Late Medieval and the Wars of the Roses, and you can't understand that if you don't understand the Angevins, including Magna Carta, and you can't understand that unless you understand the Norman invasion and the Norman Kings, and you can't understand that . . . .

An understanding of history is central to our institutions, our freedom, and our ability to make good decisions in the future. I'd junk all the ethnic studies, sociology, political science and the like curricula to keep history.

19 posted on 02/11/2010 3:58:12 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: GeronL
In South Carolina it starts in 1877. heh

That's North Carolina, you mean.

20 posted on 02/11/2010 3:59:35 PM PST by thulldud
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