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75% back letting gays serve openly (washington COMpost BS gay-praganda)
MSM-liberal media-Washington comPost ^ | Feb 12, 2010 | Ed O'Keefe and Jennifer Agiesta

Posted on 02/12/2010 5:03:52 PM PST by max americana

Three-quarters of Americans say that they support openly gay people serving in the U.S. military, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, a finding that could lend momentum to the Obama administration's effort to dismantle the policy known as "don't ask, don't tell."

SNIP***

President Obama called for the policy's repeal last month in his State of the Union address, and the military's top civilian and military leadership has also expressed personal support for a repeal.

SNIP***

The percentage of Americans who say they support gays openly serving is the same as a Post-ABC News poll found in July 2008; both are far above the 44 percent who said so in May 1993.

In the new poll, majorities across party lines favor such a policy, with support among Democrats (82 percent) and independents (77 percent) higher than among Republicans (64 percent). The poll also reveals several sharp demographic divides. Men (65 percent) and seniors (69 percent) are far less likely than are women (84 percent) and young adults (81 percent under age 30) to say that gays should be allowed to serve if they have disclosed their sexual orientation. Knowing a gay person makes a big difference: Among those who say they have a gay friend or family member, 81 percent support allowing gay people to serve openly, compared with 66 percent who say they do not know someone who is gay.

The poll was conducted by telephone Feb. 4-8 among a random national sample of 1,004 adults, including users of both conventional and cellular phones. The margin of sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2010polls; dadt; dontaskdonttell; gay; homosexualagenda; military; wp
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Why not make it 98%?? Who made this survey, the University of East Anglia? Even Obama, the biggest liar of them all, would laugh at such numbers.
1 posted on 02/12/2010 5:03:53 PM PST by max americana
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To: max americana

It may not be 75%, but I bet it’s a majority.


2 posted on 02/12/2010 5:06:05 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: max americana

How many polled had prior military service??


3 posted on 02/12/2010 5:06:18 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: mortal19440

as per article, none.


4 posted on 02/12/2010 5:08:47 PM PST by max americana
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To: max americana

“The poll was conducted by telephone Feb. 4-8 among a random national sample of 1,004 adults...”

How about polling the people it really affects - soldiers?


5 posted on 02/12/2010 5:12:07 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: max americana
What does that even mean “serve openly”?
6 posted on 02/12/2010 5:14:12 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: max americana

I’m not gay and I never served, my beret is off to anyone who volunteers to serve. ;(


7 posted on 02/12/2010 5:20:01 PM PST by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: svcw

“serve openly”. I guess, gay first, soldier second.


8 posted on 02/12/2010 5:22:34 PM PST by max americana
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To: BallyBill

Would you be interested in inviting a few of these homosexual sailors over to your house to share a shower with you? :-)


9 posted on 02/12/2010 5:23:05 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: max americana

You are probably correct.


10 posted on 02/12/2010 5:27:11 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: max americana

Dumb headline “refinement.”


11 posted on 02/12/2010 5:27:40 PM PST by Misterioso (To deal with men by force is as impractical as to deal with nature by persuasion. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: max americana

Polls have always been liberally slanted, but it’s getting ridiculous now. Is there a “Poll Slanting Czar” in the White House now?


12 posted on 02/12/2010 5:28:18 PM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: max americana

Ask those serving (not the Pampered Purple Princes at the Pentagon) and you’ll get a resounding NO! Those are the voices on this issue that count.


13 posted on 02/12/2010 5:30:12 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: max americana

With the mass layoffs, cost cutting and everything, why waste manpower, time and money on polling, why not just skip the process and make up the desired results.
That is exactly what the MSM are doing...


14 posted on 02/12/2010 5:31:01 PM PST by citizencon
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To: historyrepeatz

So this means that 75% of Freepers are for this? I dont think so.


15 posted on 02/12/2010 5:31:19 PM PST by max americana
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To: historyrepeatz

I see a base housing quagmire on the horizon.. Straight quarters, Homosexual quarters, Lesbian quarters.. Bisexual quarters (uh oh.. What to do?).. WTF is this country coming to?


16 posted on 02/12/2010 5:31:32 PM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: Comparative Advantage
Would you be interested in inviting a few of these homosexual sailors over to your house to share a shower with you? :-)

Maybe Adm. Mullen would like it....I hate the phony conservatives who on one hand say they are 100% pro military then go and support queerification of the same military. GTH phony's....Krauthammer is a phony too...

17 posted on 02/12/2010 5:35:41 PM PST by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: max americana

So what? Just proves 3/4 of those in this survey are wrong. The majority of 08 voters voted for Barack and were wrong. Happens all the time the majority is wrong.

I don’t base right and wrong on what the majority says. The majority CAN be right, but just having more people be for something doesn’t automatically make it right.


18 posted on 02/12/2010 5:37:17 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: max americana
Details Of Obama Openly Gay Military Released

WASHINGTON - pResident barack obama has directed the Pentagon to replace the "don't ask, don't tell" policy with one that will allow openly gay men and women to serve in the military.

Defense Secretary robert gates and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral mike mullen, will present details of the plan to U.S. lawmakers next Tuesday.

According to sources inside the Pentagon, changes to be implemented include:
- adding choreography to marching regimens
- equipping all dorms with double-wide bunks
- new fitted uniforms in seasonal color palettes
- installation of hot tubs.

In a potentially controversial move, the Pentagon will announce the formation of a new all-gay, all male company tentatively named "69th Fighting Sodomites."

Sources credit the creation of the 69th to House member barney frank, who has reportedly been working "vewy, vewy cwosewy" with gay Pentagon officials.

The all new squadron patch was unveiled at the presentation.

Fighting Group


/spoof


19 posted on 02/12/2010 5:39:17 PM PST by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: FrankR

20 posted on 02/12/2010 5:50:04 PM PST by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: max americana

This is about the fourth or fifth poll I’ve seen recently that show a significant majority of people that think it’s okay for gays to serve openly in the military, but I still don’t buy it - especially not 75%. I think someone is cooking the numbers.


21 posted on 02/12/2010 5:54:05 PM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... www.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: max americana

Who cares? Shouldn’t it be a vote of the active military? They are the ones that have to work with them and keep everything going.


22 posted on 02/12/2010 5:57:48 PM PST by proudtobeanamerican1 (Prayers Up! It's our last defense!)
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To: SandRat
“Those are the voices on this issue that count.”

And, in the final result, they are the one’s who will have the real vote (with their feet).

I would guess that among those now serving and those with a “propensity to serve” the negative vote would be as high as 90-95%.

23 posted on 02/12/2010 6:00:37 PM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: max americana
At this very moment, according to the U.S.National Debt Clock, the population of the United States of America is 308.672,437 citizens. Are they saying that 231,504,327.75 of those citizens support getting rid of 'Don't ask, don't tell'???

Where's my picture of oceanfront property for sale in Arizona?! If those numbers aren't a load of bull****, I'll eat my hat! >:-(
24 posted on 02/12/2010 6:02:41 PM PST by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: max americana

This is a problem with us on FreeRepublic. When a poll or story doesn’t allign with our view, we quickly claim bias. Why not just recognize that the public, as whole that don’t pay attention to issues like we do, go with the flow and need to be educated? No, this poll/story isn’t biased; the public are just uneducated. Denial doesn’t solve anything; recognizing that the public are misinformed what gays in the military will do and then educating them is the only way to solve the problem.


25 posted on 02/12/2010 6:07:15 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier (http://www.rlc.org/ (The Republican Liberty Caucus))
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To: Magic Fingers
How about polling the people it really affects - soldiers?

As a soldier currently stationed at Fort Carson: most don't care about openly gay soldiers. But when I pose the problem with housing, marriage rights, fraternization, BAH and BAS, the politically correct actions of ending our "fag jokes," and other issues this leads to, most don't want to rock the boat and favor the current policy in effect.

26 posted on 02/12/2010 6:07:15 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier (http://www.rlc.org/ (The Republican Liberty Caucus))
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To: max americana

At one time a huge majority thought slavery and beating your wife was ok too. It means nothing to me. The military’s job is to defend us and kill bad people if they have to. Nothing should come before the mission. That used to be the slogan.

Forcing men to live and work together, when one of them likes to ram his thing in another man’s butt, is just stupid.


27 posted on 02/12/2010 6:12:00 PM PST by bluecollarman (Finally..... No Microsoft! Kiss mine Mr. Gates. I finally broke free with linux !! :))
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To: All

Anyone ever see the movie “The Lives of Others”?

When I see polls like this, I feel like the Stasi guy watching the state propaganda evening news.


28 posted on 02/12/2010 6:12:04 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Engineer_Soldier

I appreciate your input as one who is in the best position to know...and thank you for your service.


29 posted on 02/12/2010 6:12:20 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: Magic Fingers
How about polling the people it really affects - soldiers?

Military Times did. 49% of active duty service members support letting gays serve openly. This is up from 42% in 2008 which was up from 37% in 2003.

Why is this number rising? Well, I suspect that today's young recruits are much more, for lack of a better word, "indoctrinated" into acceptance of gay lifestyles. They went to school where they had friends and acquaintances who were openly gay and where tolerance was drummed into their heads by teachers and peer pressure. They've had family members come out as openly gay. If they had civilian jobs prior to enlisting, they likely had openly gay co-workers and worked for companies with established anti-discrimination policies, companies they'll return to after the service.

Eventually, as polls are trending, opposition to openly gays serving among active duty military will be the minority opinion.

30 posted on 02/12/2010 6:14:37 PM PST by Drew68
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To: FrankR
...Death From Behind...


31 posted on 02/12/2010 6:14:56 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: max americana

I served 5 years active duty USAF and 2 years Ohio ANG.

My vote is NO.

I’d bet my last nickel that all of the men I served with would vote NO too. That is 100%! I can’t believe the 75% number, unless 50% of those are queers. (I hate the usurpation of the otherwise nice word, “gay”.)


32 posted on 02/12/2010 6:15:40 PM PST by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: 9YearLurker

That’s right, the American people, like Pavlov’s dogs, have been conditioned to accept this “human rights” policy, and their minds won’t be changed, for they are an uninformed and stubborn lot.


33 posted on 02/12/2010 6:16:55 PM PST by Theodore R. (...)
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To: Magic Fingers
the best position to know

Maybe you should re-phrase that.

34 posted on 02/12/2010 6:18:00 PM PST by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: max americana

BULL$HIT


35 posted on 02/12/2010 6:18:52 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: BatGuano

My cousin serves in Sokor and months ago, I asked him about gays in the military, and all of them in his bn were and are against it.


36 posted on 02/12/2010 6:19:44 PM PST by max americana
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To: proudtobeanamerican1

I think the career military folks have already said allowing gays to serve openly will decimate the services of experienced personnel. The Progressives have their minds made up about allowing gays to serve openly regardless of the outcome. Isn’t curious how all the Progressives refer to Tea Party people as tea baggers when they are the ones in bed (not literally....I think) with all the sexually confused people.


37 posted on 02/12/2010 6:22:53 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: max americana
Pretty preposterous considering continuation or reinstatement of the policy will be a GOP campaign plank in 2010 and 2012.

Effin homos are worse than vampires.

38 posted on 02/12/2010 6:23:13 PM PST by Rome2000
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To: Rome2000

Gays will vote dim no matter what so maybe, just maybe the GOP could support what’s actually best for the mission of the military?

I’m just sayin’.


39 posted on 02/12/2010 6:39:07 PM PST by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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A nonsense poll, of course.

40 posted on 02/12/2010 6:58:33 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: max americana

I’m serving active duty, and I honestly don’t care. They’re already in all branches of the military serving honorably and shedding the same blood as the rest of us. The same regulations that apply to us regarding fraternization, displays of public affection, etc. would still apply to them. Meaning they leave that crap at home. That’s not to say issues and problems wouldn’t accompany this, but it won’t destroy the military.


41 posted on 02/12/2010 7:32:11 PM PST by Firefigher NC
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To: antidemoncrat
I think the career military folks have already said allowing gays to serve openly will decimate the services of experienced personnel.

Not in this economy.

42 posted on 02/12/2010 7:33:34 PM PST by Drew68
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To: antidemoncrat
I think the career military folks have already said allowing gays to serve openly will decimate the services of experienced personnel. The Progressives have their minds made up about allowing gays to serve openly regardless of the outcome.

And in the event of a draft, being gay will not disqualify you anymore. So suppose a major war starts and the experienced people have been thinned out a lot. A lot of gays will be drafted and put in the ranks and face hostile fire. And they will be slaughtered in large numbers (along with straights).

Maybe that is the plan...

43 posted on 02/12/2010 7:51:51 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: little jeremiah
A nonsense poll, of course.

Really? How so?

44 posted on 02/12/2010 7:58:04 PM PST by Drew68
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To: max americana

Only 75 percent? They’re losing their push-poll data manipulation magic touch. I bet if they go back and try harder they can push the number to 105 percent.


45 posted on 02/12/2010 8:00:38 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: 9YearLurker

Most of whom have no idea what it’s like to be in the military.


46 posted on 02/12/2010 8:04:24 PM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Firefigher NC
The same regulations that apply to us regarding fraternization, displays of public affection, etc. would still apply to them

Pure bull____. The regs would be charged to give them special status as an "oppressed" minority, all you dewy-eyed idiots who see no harm in this would spend 80 hours a year being indoctrinated into "accepting" the alternative lifestyles, and you'd get your unprogessive a__es kicked out in a heartbeat if you didn't shout kumbaya and join the lavender parade.

47 posted on 02/12/2010 8:04:46 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: Firefigher NC

“Meaning they leave that crap at home”

It really doesn’t ever work like that in the real world.


48 posted on 02/12/2010 8:05:31 PM PST by bluecollarman (Finally..... No Microsoft! Kiss mine Mr. Gates. I finally broke free with linux !! :))
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To: max americana

I wonder what percentage of the population would vote to have themselves share an open shower with homosexuals? It’s really nice of them to choose that for the brave young men and women who have volunteered to protect this country.


49 posted on 02/12/2010 8:14:09 PM PST by dangerdoc
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To: bluecollarman

If they decide to act unprofessionally and flaunt their sexuality at work, holding hands and kissing each other and stuff, it’ll stop pretty quick when they start getting busted down, restricted pay, restricted to quarters, extra duty, etc.


50 posted on 02/12/2010 8:17:22 PM PST by Firefigher NC
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