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N. Korea:[No. 331] Flood of Reports to Central Party "People on the Verge of Starvation Death"
Good Friends ^ | 02/16/10

Posted on 02/17/2010 7:04:18 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

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[No. 331] Flood of Reports to Central Party "People on the Verge of Starvation Death"

02/16/10

(According to sources,) an official from the central party revealed, "There are 5,660 reports which reached the central party from provinces, saying that food situation is dire or people are on the verge of death from starvation. Of them, 2,000 reports even spelled out names of people died in their city or county." According to the reports, commerce has collapsed, food supply is completely cut off, and people are barely getting by eating food substitute such as residue from liquor and tofu manufacturing, corn skin, remnants from grain powdering process.

Folks reportedly complain that people are starving to death because currency reform was imposed on already struggling people, resulting in immediate shutdown of markets, disrupting the supply of necessities and food. An official said, "After the currency reform, the market was promptly shut down before establishing mechanism for supplying goods, leading to breakdown of food supply and starvation death of urban workers." At one point, farmers did get some extra bonus, which improved their living condition temporarily, allowing them to purchase some household goods while condition of urban workers badly deteriorated. Some in the party say, "Markets were abolished without addressing the problem of ration system, which is a badly ill-timed decision. Hasty implementation without (proper) preparation led to starvation death of urban workers."

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communism; currencyreform; famine; nkorea; northkorea; starvation
Stories of starvation death come from many channels these days. This is completely due to collapse of market. The magnitude of renewed famine would become obvious in coming months. So far it appears that it won't be the repeat of great famine in 90's. By all accounts, it is on a smaller scale. If I hazard a guess, it might be on the order of thousands or tens of thousands. However, with this latest fiasco, people finally ran out of patience, and seriouly outraged. Enough potential here to credibly destabilize the regime.
1 posted on 02/17/2010 7:04:18 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

P!


2 posted on 02/17/2010 7:04:42 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Correction: Of them, 2,000 reports even spelled out names of people who died(of starvation) in their city or county.
3 posted on 02/17/2010 7:06:40 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is probably the only country in the world which would be significantly improved if it was annexed by China. And that’s what’s likely to happen.


4 posted on 02/17/2010 7:08:17 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I wonder if OBama thinking about saving these people Probably


5 posted on 02/17/2010 7:08:32 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The extent of the misery is just beyond my imagination.


6 posted on 02/17/2010 7:09:07 PM PST by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

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7 posted on 02/17/2010 7:09:10 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (We are unable to transmit through conscious neural interference.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Satellite photo of North korea at night. Looks like nobodys home.


8 posted on 02/17/2010 7:11:22 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: TigerLikesRooster

2,000 villages? multiple deaths from starvation each?


9 posted on 02/17/2010 7:26:38 PM PST by GeronL (I pledge allegiance to the Principles of the Bill of Rights and to protect and defend it...)
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To: GeronL
It sure sounds that way, according to this article.
10 posted on 02/17/2010 7:31:27 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I bet the actual number is many times higher.


11 posted on 02/17/2010 7:32:50 PM PST by GeronL (I pledge allegiance to the Principles of the Bill of Rights and to protect and defend it...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

People are starving as I sit here stuffing my face with a rather large pastrami sandwich. If I could somehow give it to them, I would but it would just be confiscated by the regime to feed their immense military machine or go to their communist leaders.

We have a communist president who would love to see the same system here. Communism never works, never.


12 posted on 02/17/2010 7:33:00 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("0bama's not just stupid; He’s Jimmy Carter stupid”. - Don Imus)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Can you believe this BS.

In our country Comrade Kim Jong Il has been giving wise leadership to all the work of the Party, state and army; the problem of ensuring continuity of leadership has thus been brilliantly solved.

In our country now Party work is successful, state work is successful, military operations are successful and socialist construction is successful, under the leadership of Comrade Kim Jong Il. Today in our country all the people have become a great family, single-heartedly united around the Party, and they are loyally supporting the Party’s leadership. In the course of many years of struggle under the Party’s leadership, our people have realized deep in their hearts that our Party is the true representative and stalwart champion of the masses and their great guide. Therefore, they entrust their destiny entirely to the Party. The recent conference of the families of martyrs from all parts of the country, the conference of Korean intellectuals and the Eighth Congress of the League of Socialist Working Youth of Korea and other conferences have clearly demonstrated again our people’s ardent and loyal support for the Party and their unshakable determination to defend and accomplish the socialist cause under the leadership of the Party.

We still have a lot of work to do to accomplish the socialist cause, the revolutionary cause of Juche. We must firmly adhere to our Party’s general line and press ahead with the ideological, technological and cultural revolutions to consolidate and develop people-centred socialism in our country and also realize national reunification, the cherished desire of our nation.

We have struggled for socialism all our lives, and it is inconceivable now to discard the best socialism of ours and restore capitalism, a society where “the rich grow richer and the poor grow poorer.” The road of socialism is the road of true freedom and happiness for the people, whereas the road of capitalism is the road of exploitation and oppression, misery and suffering for the people. The defence of socialism means victory, whereas giving up socialism means death. Since we pledged to build socialism when we started fighting for the revolution, we must defend socialism through to the end without the slightest vacillation and accomplish the revolutionary cause of Juche.

In order to defend the people-centred socialism of our country and brilliantly accomplish the revolutionary cause of Juche, the entire Party and all the people must unite firmly behind Comrade Kim Jong Il and loyally support his leadership. Loyal support for Comrade Kim Jong Il’s leadership is the sure guarantee for continuing and accomplishing the socialist cause.


13 posted on 02/17/2010 7:33:02 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Another poster child example of a country under totalitarian socialist-commie pig dictatorship!

Kind of like what 0bozo the socialist-commie pig usurper wants to do to our country!

14 posted on 02/17/2010 7:33:25 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Hordes of starving people with nothing to lose is not a good thing.


15 posted on 02/17/2010 7:35:22 PM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: GeronL

Starvation deaths are reportedly concentrated in areas which used to be business hub, where major market is located. People there make their living doing business in the market. Now that market is shut down, they cannot make their living, and are starving to death. Especially Pyongsung in Pyongan Province, the major business bub in recent years since markets were allowed to operate, are producing disproportionate number of starvation victims lately, according to information coming out of N. Korea.


16 posted on 02/17/2010 7:36:36 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: Marty62
BS will get louder as situations in N. Korea get worse.
17 posted on 02/17/2010 7:39:10 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I have seen other articles about them having a poor harvest as well for a multiple of reasons, one of which is South Korea did not provide them with fertilizer subsidies like they did under the ‘sunshine policy’. I feel horrible for the people there, but I wonder how much sooner this regime could have been toppled if we had not sent them grain and financial assistance for years.


18 posted on 02/17/2010 7:42:26 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Is the sarcasm tag really necessary?)
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To: Pan_Yan
Of all food aid sent to N. Korea, most were hoarded by military and other connected institutions. They keep for their use and the rest is either sold at the market at jacked-up price, or exported overseas to earn hard currency.

The aid ended up fattening treasury of the regime and bankrolling their nuke/missile program. Without such aids, N. Korea would have collapsed more than a decade ago.

19 posted on 02/17/2010 7:49:42 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

"Job well done."

I wish I could find that picture of her giving him a Michael Jordan signed basketball.

20 posted on 02/17/2010 7:54:13 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Is the sarcasm tag really necessary?)
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To: Texas resident

That’s why I’m stocking up as much as I can. Zero will have us just like NK in a year or so


21 posted on 02/17/2010 8:00:24 PM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Pray for Obama,Psalms109:8)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

>>Enough potential here to credibly destabilize the regime.<<

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Starving the Ukraine at the tune of millions didn’t destabilize Stalin’s regime. It only grew stronger.


22 posted on 02/17/2010 8:08:18 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

So, is cannibalism going to play a part in this starvation?


23 posted on 02/17/2010 8:11:17 PM PST by calex59
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To: bigheadfred
The only light at night in this giant socialist prison in in Kim il ChiaPet's palace complex.


24 posted on 02/17/2010 8:13:39 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

They, the people of North Korea, deserve our prayers.

Thanks for the post.


25 posted on 02/17/2010 8:47:21 PM PST by Wuli
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To: 353FMG
The famine in 90’s may have some parallels with Ukrainian famine in 30’s. This is the second wave of starvation. I hazard to guess that, if another famine visited Ukraine some 10 years later after the initial one in 30’s, Ukrainians would have been less likely to sit around and wait for their death.
26 posted on 02/17/2010 8:59:32 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

In a sense, communism and socialism are cannibalism.

Large parts of the human population feeds off of other parts - even to the point of death. Socialism just kills the food source slower than cannibalism.


27 posted on 02/18/2010 7:18:23 AM PST by helpfulresearcher (Bipartisanship: The PC Term for Collaboration with the Enemy)
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To: helpfulresearcher
Socialism just kills the food source slower than cannibalism.

And provides myriad of measly excuses for their failure.:-)

28 posted on 02/18/2010 7:21:04 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“...Ukrainians would have been less likely to sit around and wait for their death.”

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Yeah sure. They would all have grabbed pitchforks, shovels and axes and marched to Moscow where they would have been welcomed by Stalin with cannon, tanks, infantry and airial assault. Lots of luck.

Most Americans have no idea what a totalitarian government can do to its people. Have you noticed what Saddam Hussein did to his people, and Ayatollah Khomeini to his? And let’s not forget Mao and Pol Pot.

This ain’t 1776 no moh where the heaviest weapon was a musket. In order to liberate a nation, it will take a foreign force willing to do so. See WWII.


29 posted on 02/18/2010 11:55:13 AM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: 353FMG
N. Korean regime has been undergoing significant decay since mid-90's. State control is failing not because of lack of brute force. Corruption is rampant among party officials and military. Security agents are also into it. Lure of money eroded state control to the point that the regime started to fear that the market commands more allegiance form people than the regime itself. Hence, the hasty currency reform, which failed miserably, causing another bout of serious starvation.

On top of it, regular military is in real decay, too. Everybody, civilians or military, has been experiencing acute food shortage, if not outright starvation.

Besides, if you have some seed of internal power struggle inside the regime and immediate neighbors trying hard to interfere and influence the political outcome, things are pretty fluid.

This is not the regime in its youth. It lasted for some 60 years and now badly eroded. Brutal repression has been in effect throughout its entire history. Still now it wears out, and barely standing.

Famine always create serious political complications. There should be enough fanatics who are loyal to the regime in order to ensure regime survival. Such loyalty is now gone.

Tanks worked their magic in N. Korea's past. Before 90's, there were some mass uprisings in provinces which were put down by tanks and troops. They don't have enough fuel for tanks. Most soldiers are malnourished and spend most of their time to find something to eat.

30 posted on 02/18/2010 10:14:50 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“Markets were abolished without addressing the problem of ration system, which is a badly ill-timed decision. Hasty implementation without (proper) preparation led to starvation death of urban workers.” <<<

The leaders should be shot.

My heart aches for all the citizens caught up in this disaster.


31 posted on 02/19/2010 6:19:45 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( garden/survival/cooking/storage- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2299939/posts?page=5555)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Sadly, the Chinese Central Communist Party (CCP) is missing a real opportunity to take a step up on the world stage. They can push Kim Jong Il out, install a (-nother?) puppet of their choosing, and look like a new beacon of liberty and hope. They are clearly the primary ascendantpower in the world right now. The positive PR from rescuing several million souls from starvation at the hands of their own leader would go a long way towards helping the Left-leaning global media ignore some of China's other less-than-savory actions.

It's a tragic day when the CCP pays more attention to George Washington's admonitions to stay out of foreign affairs than our own leaders... even more tragic for a few million North Koreans.

32 posted on 02/19/2010 6:32:23 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bump.


33 posted on 02/19/2010 7:01:22 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( garden/survival/cooking/storage- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2299939/posts?page=5555)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

You did a lot of research on this subject. Thanks for sharing the info. The North has suffered tremendously during and after the Korean War — I hope that the end of their suffering is in sight.


34 posted on 02/19/2010 11:40:12 AM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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