Snuff Civilization ( moonbat alert )

Alternatives Magazine ^ | Derrick Jensen

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

Had somebody snuffed civilization in its multiple cradles, the Middle East would probably still be forested, as would Greece, Italy, and North Africa. Lions would probably still patrol southern Europe. The peoples of the region would quite possibly still live in traditional communal ways, and thus would be capable of feeding themselves in a still-fecund landscape.

Fast forward a few hundred years and we can say the same in Europe. Somehow stop the Greeks and Romans, and the indigenous people of Gaul, Spain, Germany probably still survive. Wolves might howl in England. Great auks might nest in France, providing year-round food for the humans who live there.

Salmon might run in more than token numbers up the Seine. The Rhine is almost undoubtedly clean. The continent is forested. Many of the cultures are matrifocal. Many are peaceful.

Had someone brought down civilization before 1492, the Arawaks would probably still live peacefully in the Caribbean. Indians would live in ancient forests all along the Eastern seaboard, along with bison, marten, fisher. North, Central, and South America would be ecologically and culturally intact. The people would probably have, as always, plenty to eat.

Had someone brought down civilization before the slave trade took hold, 100 million Africans would not have been sacrificed on that particular altar of economic production. Native cultures might still live untraumatized on their own land all across that continent. There probably would be, as there always was, plenty to eat.

[GonzoGOP]

If there is no one to call 'em "Indians", are they still "Indians"?

One interesting thing. What was it that the locals wanted most when the Europeans first showed up. Agricultural advancements, poetry, literature, any form of liberal arts education, or civil engineering? Nope they wanted guns, lots of guns. They liked metal axes too. And interestingly the locals in Africa were more than happy to sell their fellow Africans into slavery in exchange for, you guessed it, more guns. So they could kill each other much more efficiently. There were no noble savages. Just savages lacking a decent arms industry.

[Hacklehead]

“I think his mommy is there to protect him...”

After he misses a few meals he will EAT his mommy.

[DesertConservative]

Zardoz?

[The Working Man]

I had totally forgotten that movie. Of course the Time Machine by H.G. Wells could fit that too.

And the References to Rainbow Six are good too.

[reagan_fanatic]

[DesertConservative]

Is it wrong of me, Working Man, to have rooted for the Morlocks? >_>

[The Working Man]

You can root for whoever you want to. Have fun!

[DesertConservative]

By golly, I am hootin’ for them Morlocks!

[Brett66]

He seems to place some value on people having enough to eat, but contradicts himself by wanting there to be less people around.

He’s apparently totally ignorant of the “paradise” that Stalin created by doing that not too long ago.

Of course, logical consistency and any grasp of common sense is completely devoid in such a person.

[Soothesayer]

I said it was their solution, didn’t say it was a good one.

Anyway yes you are right about that.