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Snuff Civilization ( moonbat alert )
Alternatives Magazine ^ | Derrick Jensen

Posted on 02/18/2010 6:46:27 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

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Glenn Beck is reading this on air right now.

We can't dismiss these people as just simple whackos. These people have incredible power within our government, and particularly in the schools. In this article, he states that he's given speeches to colleges.

This is a problem.

1 posted on 02/18/2010 6:46:27 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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Remember this?

The Tides’ Foundation and their story of stuff

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1994821/posts

Sounds eerily similar.


2 posted on 02/18/2010 6:47:22 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( "Charitable" Foundations: Automatic Teller Machines for the Left)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Logic: People would be better off if we just got rid of people.


3 posted on 02/18/2010 6:51:15 AM PST by jdsteel (CONGRESS: Take it again in twenty ten.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I think the author of this article owes it to the world to go out to some remote spot, blow his brains out, and let nature take care of the rest.

Coyotes eat the bones, too.


4 posted on 02/18/2010 6:52:09 AM PST by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I noticed that this moonbat did not mention snuffing out the Mayan, Aztec, Inca and other Amerind civilizations and the various Africa/Asian civilizations.......


5 posted on 02/18/2010 6:52:52 AM PST by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Arawaks peaceful? How about “peaceful cannibals”.


6 posted on 02/18/2010 6:53:09 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

A pool of thought so shallow you couldn’t drown a hamster in it.


7 posted on 02/18/2010 6:55:01 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The best part about all this is if civilization had been snuffed out, we would not have to read this drivel...


8 posted on 02/18/2010 6:55:10 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

bookmark


9 posted on 02/18/2010 6:55:14 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

There are so many things wrong with what this person’s saying, it’s nearly impossible to catalog all of the errors. First, he makes it sound as though there was never any starvation in ancient times. Also, the cultures present on the North and South American continents had civilizations long before Europeans got here. They did fine all by themselves when it came to war, oppression, and the acquisition of resources that were not “theirs.”


10 posted on 02/18/2010 6:55:46 AM PST by edpc (Those Lefties just ain't right)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The left is a Culture of Death. Their two driving impulses are a hatred of God and a hatred of Man. They believe that the world would be a better place if billions of people died (not them, of course) and if the Earth became a little bit more like the planet Pandora.


11 posted on 02/18/2010 6:56:08 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I was born in America, but now I live in Declinistan.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The author’s “vision” was one of the goals of the global warmists - the depopulation of the earth and the “snuffing” of civilization.

Be vigilant. With GW going down the toilet, they’ll find some other vehicle to achieve their goals.


12 posted on 02/18/2010 6:57:21 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: jdsteel
Logic: People would be better off if we just got rid of people.

Precisely.

13 posted on 02/18/2010 6:58:35 AM PST by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
“There probably would be, as there always was, plenty to eat.”

These people are absolutely delusional. Facing starvation is a common theme of pre-civilized peoples.

War was an almost constant occurrence. Death by violence among hunters and gatherers is about 25%.

Here is a poetic rendering of this truth:

THE GODS OF THE COPYBOOK HEADINGS

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don't work you die.”

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

14 posted on 02/18/2010 6:58:43 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

geez! without us, the planet would be just like avatar!

what a bunch of maroons!


15 posted on 02/18/2010 6:59:04 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: marktwain

The Gods of the Copybook Headings was written by Rudyard Kipling.


16 posted on 02/18/2010 6:59:40 AM PST by marktwain
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To: ClearCase_guy

The left is a Culture of Death. Their two driving impulses are a hatred of God and a hatred of Man.


Just like their ideological “father” -
John 8:44:
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


17 posted on 02/18/2010 6:59:55 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
The guy who wrote this has never made a constructive contribution in his life. And probably hasn't done a day's honest work. He is an academic-advocacy parasite on society.

Derrick Jensen is also a long term grassroots environmental activist who has worked on issues surrounding deforestation, dam removal, restoration of habitat for salmon and other fish, habitat improvement for amphibians, and the promotion of organic farms and the preservation of family farms. He has taught at Eastern Washington University and Pelican Bay State Prison, and has given lectures at scores of universities and colleges across the country.

18 posted on 02/18/2010 7:02:37 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Liberals want to exterminate humanity. Up until 150 years ago, children would die before the age of 5. We have finally made considerable advancements in medicine and now the leftist vermin are trying everything in their power to ensure that as many children as possible die before the age of 5. They would gladly sacrifice entire countries to promote their religion of lust, greed, and pride.

Fortunately, liberals won’t last 5 minutes without civilization. They can barely handle the USA standard of living. The toil of hunter-gatherer society would be impossible for them. After they die off, we will take charge and quarantine the disease of liberalism whenever and wherever it returns. It will be shame that so many billions will have to die before that day comes.


19 posted on 02/18/2010 7:02:45 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Dereck shouldn’t worry, we will all be snuffed out at the end of 2012 anyway.


20 posted on 02/18/2010 7:05:29 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: marktwain

I really love that poem.


21 posted on 02/18/2010 7:05:35 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
De-evolution — You have a right to die off. Those that don't are on a journey to pre-Bronze Age times.
22 posted on 02/18/2010 7:06:48 AM PST by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: Huck

Read Tom Clancy’s ‘Rainbow Six’. The ending is pure poetic justice!


23 posted on 02/18/2010 7:07:44 AM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Dear Derrick: Please, make your contribution to the cleansing of Gaia by either throwing yourself off a convenient cliff or simply walking out into the winter and dying of exposure. In any case, please make sure to remove all non-biodegradable objects from your person before your death, and don’t end yourself by sucking on a .45, as gunpowder can cause global warming.

}:-)4


24 posted on 02/18/2010 7:08:32 AM PST by Moose4 (Wasting away again in Michaelnifongville.)
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To: La Lydia

“Environmentalists” rarely if ever know the basics of ecology. Most of them are morons. The rest of them, the ones with biology/geology/etc degrees, are far more dangerous. The know their stuff but will simply lie in order to achieve their insidious goal of snuffing out unwanted persons. The morons are the foot-soldiers and the devils lead them.


25 posted on 02/18/2010 7:10:04 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Soothesayer

We have an enemy, and he hates us. He has blinded and confused many of those beings that he hates into doing his bidding, and feeling good about themselves while doing it.
Tagline.


26 posted on 02/18/2010 7:10:36 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

And the average life span would still be 30. Speaking as a 41 year old I am all for civilization.


27 posted on 02/18/2010 7:12:02 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

What an idiot this guy is. Sure, if civilization had never been established, tiny pockets of hunter-gatherer peoples would still range through their original territories, and the cedars of Lebanon would still stand, but those same people would look forward to a ripe old age in their 40s, and 25% infant mortality rates, and dying from myriad infections. Their wives would die in childbirth an alarming percentage of the time, and husbands would not come home again 25% of the time.

We don’t live on Coruscant (yet), but pining (heh) for the days when forests stretched from horizon to horizon no matter where you stood on earth and everyone lived in miserable squalor in mud or hide huts is useless intellectual masturbation.


28 posted on 02/18/2010 7:13:21 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: BwanaNdege
Funny that you mention "rainbow." Years ago I was drifting around, and wound up at a national "Rainbow Convention". Thousands of hippies in the woods. I did a lot of observing and note-taking. What I gleened was that these folks think we can actually return to Eden, if only we resort to a primitive, subsistence lifestyle. I summed it up in my notes at the time as a "guilt-driven, third world fantasy."

Anyone who has studied history or human nature understands these are delusions. They are anti-progress, as if we have a choice in the matter.

29 posted on 02/18/2010 7:14:12 AM PST by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

And Martin Luther King Jr. Would still be alive...In his hut.


30 posted on 02/18/2010 7:15:05 AM PST by BigCinBigD (")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Why is this guy alive?


31 posted on 02/18/2010 7:15:20 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: jdsteel

Bingo. They want a world devoid of humans but don’t have the guts to make a personal contribution to the process.


32 posted on 02/18/2010 7:16:09 AM PST by katana (Interesting Times)
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To: jdsteel

Ah, but it’s getting rid of the right kind of people that’s important. Stone-age Arawaks good. Technically advanced Europeans bad.

Reminds me of the last conversation I had with the date of a friend in Santa Fe. She: “We have been so evil. We’ve stolen their lands, killed their buffalo, and destroyed their sacred grounds....” Me: “No problem. Find the deed to your house. Give it to the nearest Indian, and return to Europe. If you’re not willing to do that, then STFU.” Apparently it worked, because she didn’t say another word to me the rest of the night. :)


33 posted on 02/18/2010 7:16:47 AM PST by Clioman (wHAT)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

My response to people like this is to encourage them to quit talking and take the first step. If they’re not willing to off themselves, then they truly don’t believe in their cause. If they stumble and mumble about it, then I say that, like typical tyrants/leftists/liberals, they always want someone else to do the heavy lifting for them.


34 posted on 02/18/2010 7:18:20 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Here's a photo of said moonbat: http://www.treehugger.com/derrick-jensen-toronto-2008.jpg

Looks like his mommy dressed him.

35 posted on 02/18/2010 7:21:38 AM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: Huck

It is both funny and disturbing how the “progressives” want to destroy progress. Their dream is a small, technologically primitive society devoid of moral values outside of nature worship.


36 posted on 02/18/2010 7:24:04 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Clioman

Ahh I should have said that. I had an encounter with an anti-white anti-America anti-human anti-everything-except-himself moonbat so insane he thought Rachel Maddow was only just liberal enough for him. Probably wouldn’t have registered in his thick skull though..


37 posted on 02/18/2010 7:27:56 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox
If I dressed like this I would pray that civilization would be snuffed out as well...


38 posted on 02/18/2010 7:28:04 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Clioman
Apparently it worked, because she didn’t say another word to me the rest of the night. :)

Yeah. It sucks when liberals don't talk to you. It leaves so little reason to laugh out loud.

I had a liberal whine about the buffalo and the "white man's slaughter" thereof.

I had to remind this idiot that the "noble people" did the same thing, and that these same "noble people" managed to wipe out many a species of land animal in their quest to be "one with nature." Horses, and/or their close relatives, come to mind.

39 posted on 02/18/2010 7:30:36 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: txhurl

Hey Derrick, you and the other libs go ahead and off yourself now.


40 posted on 02/18/2010 7:32:43 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Hey zero, It is NOT Bush's fault anymore.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

It is, but I invite Derreck to go live somewhere without technology, medical advances, et al. I suspect within a month or two he would be back and then would shut his stupid mouth.


41 posted on 02/18/2010 7:34:56 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

LOL. I WILL steal that someday!


42 posted on 02/18/2010 7:35:37 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Soothesayer

“Their dream is a small, technologically primitive society devoid of moral values outside of nature worship.”

______________

Personally, I always thought their dream was of a very small technologically advanced society with them inside. And the rest of humanity living in mud huts and caves serving them and providing the ‘I am better than you” narcissitic requirements.


43 posted on 02/18/2010 7:37:47 AM PST by The Working Man (Any work is better than "welfare")
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To: Soothesayer
and quarantine the disease of liberalism

Alcatraz comes to mind.

44 posted on 02/18/2010 7:39:07 AM PST by Bearshouse
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To: GonzoGOP

Exactly right. And as someone now in her 50s, I am thankful every day for modern things like medicines, a plentiful food supply, air condition/heat and a real bed.


45 posted on 02/18/2010 7:39:26 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Any event so harsh as to reduce population numbers down to the level this bonehead is endorsing would fall hardest on ... ummm ... this bonehead and his ilk.

Lib peace-niks like this guy seem to think they’ll just prance through the forest and pluck low-hanging fruit all day. Do they really believe that?

I’m spending a lot of time, energy and treasure trying to set up a small-scale farm (or just a much bigger garden) just to provide for family needs, and it ain’t easy.

So, hippie boy can go pluck all the low-hanging fruit he wants. Enjoy! We’ll look in on him around mid-January, to see if he’s still prancing.


46 posted on 02/18/2010 7:44:15 AM PST by DNME (HEY CHINA, HOW MUCH FOR HAWAII?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Well we can start by “snuffing” out the parts of “civilization” that writes and believes this kind of drivel.

That way they can do their part to “save Gaia”.


47 posted on 02/18/2010 7:44:15 AM PST by Nahanni
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To: ejonesie22

Gay.


48 posted on 02/18/2010 7:50:31 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
the lives of traditional indigenous peoples the world over are far more full of leisure and play than ours.

 

Instead of baseball or basketball they enjoy playing find enough food and shelter to get thru the day

49 posted on 02/18/2010 7:51:09 AM PST by grjr21
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To: DNME
So, hippie boy can go pluck all the low-hanging fruit he wants. Enjoy! We’ll look in on him around mid-January, to see if he’s still prancing.

This is the sort of guy who will eat his own seed corn. They are morons who don't understand that conservation is a luxury of highly civilized technological civilizations. Substance societies always outgrow the local food supply and destroy nature. Only a technological society with massive excess food and production capacity can afford to set aside large amounts of prime land for conservation.

If you love nature, you had better support industrial farming. Because it is high tech, energy intensive, industrial farming that allows 5% of the population to feed the rest while letting millions of acres of land go fallow. Low tech substance agriculture requires that you plow every patch of workable land. And there is no room for wolves, buffalo, or Bambi in that world. You can only save the whales if there is a cattle farm available to make up the loss of food. Point that out to a hippie and watch their head explode.
50 posted on 02/18/2010 7:53:56 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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