Skip to comments.Snuff Civilization ( moonbat alert )
Posted on 02/18/2010 6:46:27 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
Had somebody snuffed civilization in its multiple cradles, the Middle East would probably still be forested, as would Greece, Italy, and North Africa. Lions would probably still patrol southern Europe. The peoples of the region would quite possibly still live in traditional communal ways, and thus would be capable of feeding themselves in a still-fecund landscape.
Fast forward a few hundred years and we can say the same in Europe. Somehow stop the Greeks and Romans, and the indigenous people of Gaul, Spain, Germany probably still survive. Wolves might howl in England. Great auks might nest in France, providing year-round food for the humans who live there.
Salmon might run in more than token numbers up the Seine. The Rhine is almost undoubtedly clean. The continent is forested. Many of the cultures are matrifocal. Many are peaceful.
Had someone brought down civilization before 1492, the Arawaks would probably still live peacefully in the Caribbean. Indians would live in ancient forests all along the Eastern seaboard, along with bison, marten, fisher. North, Central, and South America would be ecologically and culturally intact. The people would probably have, as always, plenty to eat.
Had someone brought down civilization before the slave trade took hold, 100 million Africans would not have been sacrificed on that particular altar of economic production. Native cultures might still live untraumatized on their own land all across that continent. There probably would be, as there always was, plenty to eat.
We can't dismiss these people as just simple whackos. These people have incredible power within our government, and particularly in the schools. In this article, he states that he's given speeches to colleges.
This is a problem.
The Tides’ Foundation and their story of stuff
Sounds eerily similar.
Logic: People would be better off if we just got rid of people.
I think the author of this article owes it to the world to go out to some remote spot, blow his brains out, and let nature take care of the rest.
Coyotes eat the bones, too.
I noticed that this moonbat did not mention snuffing out the Mayan, Aztec, Inca and other Amerind civilizations and the various Africa/Asian civilizations.......
Arawaks peaceful? How about “peaceful cannibals”.
A pool of thought so shallow you couldn’t drown a hamster in it.
The best part about all this is if civilization had been snuffed out, we would not have to read this drivel...
There are so many things wrong with what this person’s saying, it’s nearly impossible to catalog all of the errors. First, he makes it sound as though there was never any starvation in ancient times. Also, the cultures present on the North and South American continents had civilizations long before Europeans got here. They did fine all by themselves when it came to war, oppression, and the acquisition of resources that were not “theirs.”
The left is a Culture of Death. Their two driving impulses are a hatred of God and a hatred of Man. They believe that the world would be a better place if billions of people died (not them, of course) and if the Earth became a little bit more like the planet Pandora.
The author’s “vision” was one of the goals of the global warmists - the depopulation of the earth and the “snuffing” of civilization.
Be vigilant. With GW going down the toilet, they’ll find some other vehicle to achieve their goals.
These people are absolutely delusional. Facing starvation is a common theme of pre-civilized peoples.
War was an almost constant occurrence. Death by violence among hunters and gatherers is about 25%.
Here is a poetic rendering of this truth:
THE GODS OF THE COPYBOOK HEADINGS
AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.
We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.
We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.
With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.
When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”
On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”
In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don't work you die.”
Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
geez! without us, the planet would be just like avatar!
what a bunch of maroons!
The Gods of the Copybook Headings was written by Rudyard Kipling.
The left is a Culture of Death. Their two driving impulses are a hatred of God and a hatred of Man.
Just like their ideological “father” -
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Derrick Jensen is also a long term grassroots environmental activist who has worked on issues surrounding deforestation, dam removal, restoration of habitat for salmon and other fish, habitat improvement for amphibians, and the promotion of organic farms and the preservation of family farms. He has taught at Eastern Washington University and Pelican Bay State Prison, and has given lectures at scores of universities and colleges across the country.
Liberals want to exterminate humanity. Up until 150 years ago, children would die before the age of 5. We have finally made considerable advancements in medicine and now the leftist vermin are trying everything in their power to ensure that as many children as possible die before the age of 5. They would gladly sacrifice entire countries to promote their religion of lust, greed, and pride.
Fortunately, liberals won’t last 5 minutes without civilization. They can barely handle the USA standard of living. The toil of hunter-gatherer society would be impossible for them. After they die off, we will take charge and quarantine the disease of liberalism whenever and wherever it returns. It will be shame that so many billions will have to die before that day comes.
Dereck shouldn’t worry, we will all be snuffed out at the end of 2012 anyway.
I really love that poem.
Read Tom Clancy’s ‘Rainbow Six’. The ending is pure poetic justice!
Dear Derrick: Please, make your contribution to the cleansing of Gaia by either throwing yourself off a convenient cliff or simply walking out into the winter and dying of exposure. In any case, please make sure to remove all non-biodegradable objects from your person before your death, and don’t end yourself by sucking on a .45, as gunpowder can cause global warming.
“Environmentalists” rarely if ever know the basics of ecology. Most of them are morons. The rest of them, the ones with biology/geology/etc degrees, are far more dangerous. The know their stuff but will simply lie in order to achieve their insidious goal of snuffing out unwanted persons. The morons are the foot-soldiers and the devils lead them.
We have an enemy, and he hates us. He has blinded and confused many of those beings that he hates into doing his bidding, and feeling good about themselves while doing it.
And the average life span would still be 30. Speaking as a 41 year old I am all for civilization.
What an idiot this guy is. Sure, if civilization had never been established, tiny pockets of hunter-gatherer peoples would still range through their original territories, and the cedars of Lebanon would still stand, but those same people would look forward to a ripe old age in their 40s, and 25% infant mortality rates, and dying from myriad infections. Their wives would die in childbirth an alarming percentage of the time, and husbands would not come home again 25% of the time.
We don’t live on Coruscant (yet), but pining (heh) for the days when forests stretched from horizon to horizon no matter where you stood on earth and everyone lived in miserable squalor in mud or hide huts is useless intellectual masturbation.
Anyone who has studied history or human nature understands these are delusions. They are anti-progress, as if we have a choice in the matter.
And Martin Luther King Jr. Would still be alive...In his hut.
Why is this guy alive?
Bingo. They want a world devoid of humans but don’t have the guts to make a personal contribution to the process.
Ah, but it’s getting rid of the right kind of people that’s important. Stone-age Arawaks good. Technically advanced Europeans bad.
Reminds me of the last conversation I had with the date of a friend in Santa Fe. She: “We have been so evil. We’ve stolen their lands, killed their buffalo, and destroyed their sacred grounds....” Me: “No problem. Find the deed to your house. Give it to the nearest Indian, and return to Europe. If you’re not willing to do that, then STFU.” Apparently it worked, because she didn’t say another word to me the rest of the night. :)
My response to people like this is to encourage them to quit talking and take the first step. If they’re not willing to off themselves, then they truly don’t believe in their cause. If they stumble and mumble about it, then I say that, like typical tyrants/leftists/liberals, they always want someone else to do the heavy lifting for them.
Looks like his mommy dressed him.
It is both funny and disturbing how the “progressives” want to destroy progress. Their dream is a small, technologically primitive society devoid of moral values outside of nature worship.
Ahh I should have said that. I had an encounter with an anti-white anti-America anti-human anti-everything-except-himself moonbat so insane he thought Rachel Maddow was only just liberal enough for him. Probably wouldn’t have registered in his thick skull though..
Yeah. It sucks when liberals don't talk to you. It leaves so little reason to laugh out loud.
I had a liberal whine about the buffalo and the "white man's slaughter" thereof.
I had to remind this idiot that the "noble people" did the same thing, and that these same "noble people" managed to wipe out many a species of land animal in their quest to be "one with nature." Horses, and/or their close relatives, come to mind.
Hey Derrick, you and the other libs go ahead and off yourself now.
It is, but I invite Derreck to go live somewhere without technology, medical advances, et al. I suspect within a month or two he would be back and then would shut his stupid mouth.
LOL. I WILL steal that someday!
“Their dream is a small, technologically primitive society devoid of moral values outside of nature worship.”
Personally, I always thought their dream was of a very small technologically advanced society with them inside. And the rest of humanity living in mud huts and caves serving them and providing the ‘I am better than you” narcissitic requirements.
Alcatraz comes to mind.
Exactly right. And as someone now in her 50s, I am thankful every day for modern things like medicines, a plentiful food supply, air condition/heat and a real bed.
Any event so harsh as to reduce population numbers down to the level this bonehead is endorsing would fall hardest on ... ummm ... this bonehead and his ilk.
Lib peace-niks like this guy seem to think they’ll just prance through the forest and pluck low-hanging fruit all day. Do they really believe that?
I’m spending a lot of time, energy and treasure trying to set up a small-scale farm (or just a much bigger garden) just to provide for family needs, and it ain’t easy.
So, hippie boy can go pluck all the low-hanging fruit he wants. Enjoy! We’ll look in on him around mid-January, to see if he’s still prancing.
Well we can start by “snuffing” out the parts of “civilization” that writes and believes this kind of drivel.
That way they can do their part to “save Gaia”.
Instead of baseball or basketball they enjoy playing find enough food and shelter to get thru the day