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Snuff Civilization ( moonbat alert )
Alternatives Magazine ^ | Derrick Jensen

Posted on 02/18/2010 6:46:27 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

Had somebody snuffed civilization in its multiple cradles, the Middle East would probably still be forested, as would Greece, Italy, and North Africa. Lions would probably still patrol southern Europe. The peoples of the region would quite possibly still live in traditional communal ways, and thus would be capable of feeding themselves in a still-fecund landscape.

Fast forward a few hundred years and we can say the same in Europe. Somehow stop the Greeks and Romans, and the indigenous people of Gaul, Spain, Germany probably still survive. Wolves might howl in England. Great auks might nest in France, providing year-round food for the humans who live there.

Salmon might run in more than token numbers up the Seine. The Rhine is almost undoubtedly clean. The continent is forested. Many of the cultures are matrifocal. Many are peaceful.

Had someone brought down civilization before 1492, the Arawaks would probably still live peacefully in the Caribbean. Indians would live in ancient forests all along the Eastern seaboard, along with bison, marten, fisher. North, Central, and South America would be ecologically and culturally intact. The people would probably have, as always, plenty to eat.

Had someone brought down civilization before the slave trade took hold, 100 million Africans would not have been sacrificed on that particular altar of economic production. Native cultures might still live untraumatized on their own land all across that continent. There probably would be, as there always was, plenty to eat.


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KEYWORDS: civilization; donotdismissthis; indoctrination; liberalfascism; liberalprogressivism; moonbat; whackjob
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Glenn Beck is reading this on air right now.

We can't dismiss these people as just simple whackos. These people have incredible power within our government, and particularly in the schools. In this article, he states that he's given speeches to colleges.

This is a problem.

1 posted on 02/18/2010 6:46:27 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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Remember this?

The Tides’ Foundation and their story of stuff

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1994821/posts

Sounds eerily similar.


2 posted on 02/18/2010 6:47:22 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( "Charitable" Foundations: Automatic Teller Machines for the Left)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Logic: People would be better off if we just got rid of people.


3 posted on 02/18/2010 6:51:15 AM PST by jdsteel (CONGRESS: Take it again in twenty ten.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I think the author of this article owes it to the world to go out to some remote spot, blow his brains out, and let nature take care of the rest.

Coyotes eat the bones, too.


4 posted on 02/18/2010 6:52:09 AM PST by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I noticed that this moonbat did not mention snuffing out the Mayan, Aztec, Inca and other Amerind civilizations and the various Africa/Asian civilizations.......


5 posted on 02/18/2010 6:52:52 AM PST by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Arawaks peaceful? How about “peaceful cannibals”.


6 posted on 02/18/2010 6:53:09 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

A pool of thought so shallow you couldn’t drown a hamster in it.


7 posted on 02/18/2010 6:55:01 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The best part about all this is if civilization had been snuffed out, we would not have to read this drivel...


8 posted on 02/18/2010 6:55:10 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

bookmark


9 posted on 02/18/2010 6:55:14 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

There are so many things wrong with what this person’s saying, it’s nearly impossible to catalog all of the errors. First, he makes it sound as though there was never any starvation in ancient times. Also, the cultures present on the North and South American continents had civilizations long before Europeans got here. They did fine all by themselves when it came to war, oppression, and the acquisition of resources that were not “theirs.”


10 posted on 02/18/2010 6:55:46 AM PST by edpc (Those Lefties just ain't right)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The left is a Culture of Death. Their two driving impulses are a hatred of God and a hatred of Man. They believe that the world would be a better place if billions of people died (not them, of course) and if the Earth became a little bit more like the planet Pandora.


11 posted on 02/18/2010 6:56:08 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I was born in America, but now I live in Declinistan.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The author’s “vision” was one of the goals of the global warmists - the depopulation of the earth and the “snuffing” of civilization.

Be vigilant. With GW going down the toilet, they’ll find some other vehicle to achieve their goals.


12 posted on 02/18/2010 6:57:21 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: jdsteel
Logic: People would be better off if we just got rid of people.

Precisely.

13 posted on 02/18/2010 6:58:35 AM PST by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
“There probably would be, as there always was, plenty to eat.”

These people are absolutely delusional. Facing starvation is a common theme of pre-civilized peoples.

War was an almost constant occurrence. Death by violence among hunters and gatherers is about 25%.

Here is a poetic rendering of this truth:

THE GODS OF THE COPYBOOK HEADINGS

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don't work you die.”

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

14 posted on 02/18/2010 6:58:43 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

geez! without us, the planet would be just like avatar!

what a bunch of maroons!


15 posted on 02/18/2010 6:59:04 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: marktwain

The Gods of the Copybook Headings was written by Rudyard Kipling.


16 posted on 02/18/2010 6:59:40 AM PST by marktwain
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To: ClearCase_guy

The left is a Culture of Death. Their two driving impulses are a hatred of God and a hatred of Man.


Just like their ideological “father” -
John 8:44:
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


17 posted on 02/18/2010 6:59:55 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
The guy who wrote this has never made a constructive contribution in his life. And probably hasn't done a day's honest work. He is an academic-advocacy parasite on society.

Derrick Jensen is also a long term grassroots environmental activist who has worked on issues surrounding deforestation, dam removal, restoration of habitat for salmon and other fish, habitat improvement for amphibians, and the promotion of organic farms and the preservation of family farms. He has taught at Eastern Washington University and Pelican Bay State Prison, and has given lectures at scores of universities and colleges across the country.

18 posted on 02/18/2010 7:02:37 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Liberals want to exterminate humanity. Up until 150 years ago, children would die before the age of 5. We have finally made considerable advancements in medicine and now the leftist vermin are trying everything in their power to ensure that as many children as possible die before the age of 5. They would gladly sacrifice entire countries to promote their religion of lust, greed, and pride.

Fortunately, liberals won’t last 5 minutes without civilization. They can barely handle the USA standard of living. The toil of hunter-gatherer society would be impossible for them. After they die off, we will take charge and quarantine the disease of liberalism whenever and wherever it returns. It will be shame that so many billions will have to die before that day comes.


19 posted on 02/18/2010 7:02:45 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Dereck shouldn’t worry, we will all be snuffed out at the end of 2012 anyway.


20 posted on 02/18/2010 7:05:29 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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