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In Afghanistan, Marines handling detainees by the book
http://dailyme.com/story/2010021900001293/afghanistan-marines-handling-detainees-book.html ^

Posted on 02/19/2010 5:47:04 AM PST by Ed25

The Marines have been warned: Any rough treatment or even harsh language aimed at a detainee is forbidden. When making an arrest, they are instructed to ask their subject if he will voluntarily go with them. This is getting totally out of hand.These ROE are putting our troops at risk

(Excerpt) Read more at dailyme.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; arrestingterrorists; bhoafghanistan; military; mirandawarning; obama; sourcetitlenoturl; terrorists; wot

1 posted on 02/19/2010 5:47:04 AM PST by Ed25
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To: Ed25

The Iraqi Defense minister was right. The dog barks but doesn’t bite.

Not our soldier’s faults, of course - It’s leadership. Our military is the most capable in the history of mankind, and yet it’s turning into the weakest at the same time.

I hope field command is ignoring orders and moving forward with a strong presence - While reporting upwards that everything is “by the book”.

It should be noted as well: The enemy operates “By the book”.. And their book tells them to eliminate infidels, abuse women, and conquer the world without mercy.


2 posted on 02/19/2010 5:52:20 AM PST by Celerity
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To: Ed25
I thought Marines captured the enemy. Now they arrest them??
3 posted on 02/19/2010 5:55:22 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: Ed25

When I first read your excerpts, I thought this must be a satire, then I clicked on the link and saw it’s a genuine news article.

It’s nothing less than shocking. Are we trying to defeat the enemy or not? Clearly the Obamam ROE are set to protect the enemy, not our troops. If a terrorist drops his weapon, suddenly he is a “civilian” that we should just let go, so he can pick up his weapon and kill our troops five minutes later.


4 posted on 02/19/2010 5:55:33 AM PST by SmartInsight
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To: Ed25

I’m buying stock in “Comfy Chairs”.


5 posted on 02/19/2010 5:59:08 AM PST by AU72
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To: Ed25

For some reason the link the dailyme doesn’t seem to be working, but here is the link to the orginal Los Angeles Times article (same title):

In Afghanistan, Marines handling detainees by the book

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-fg-afghan-detainees19-2010feb19,0,729051.story


6 posted on 02/19/2010 5:59:53 AM PST by SmartInsight
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To: Ed25

This is the fault of one of the most INEPT administrations in the history of this nation!


7 posted on 02/19/2010 6:01:41 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: ExtremeUnction

“The Marines have 96 hours to question a detainee before either releasing him or transferring him to the Afghan national police. Some, upon release, are given money as compensation for being detained.”

The article also mentions three Afghans who were found with traces of explosives on their hands, but they were released.


8 posted on 02/19/2010 6:03:32 AM PST by SmartInsight
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To: ExtremeUnction
When making an arrest, they are instructed to ask their subject if he will voluntarily go with them.

WTF? How about they tell the subject he's going with them and if he doesn't like it, they blow him into the next 'Stan.

9 posted on 02/19/2010 6:03:38 AM PST by shteebo
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To: SumProVita

“This is the fault of one of the most INEPT administrations in the history of this nation!”

NOBODY is THIS inept. Take it from there and judge from their actions, whose side are they really on?


10 posted on 02/19/2010 6:06:53 AM PST by SmartInsight
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To: AU72

I’m buying stock in “Comfy Chairs

Good one LOL!


11 posted on 02/19/2010 6:30:14 AM PST by bikerman (Buck Farack)
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To: Ed25

I bet that the Marines have to Mirandize them (or have an on-site FBI agent do that. From what I heard, there are a lot of FBI agents in Afghanistan.)


12 posted on 02/19/2010 6:35:04 AM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Ed25

Book’em Danno......


13 posted on 02/19/2010 7:54:36 AM PST by cranked
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To: Ed25
When making an arrest ... ?????

Arrest? WTF?

They are the enemy! The enemy is captured if he is not killed first! Krap!

14 posted on 02/19/2010 8:49:25 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

This is WRONG!
Take no prisoners.


15 posted on 02/19/2010 9:02:14 AM PST by unkus
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To: SumProVita

“This is the fault of one of the most INEPT administrations in the history of this nation!

From the article: “True to their institutional culture, the Marines have a lengthy set of instructions on how to treat detainees. The procedures were rewritten after a detainee died in 2003 while in Marine custody in Iraq. Now, at each stop, as the detainees are being transferred, they are examined to spot any sign of rough treatment.”

So this goes back to 2003. It’s also consistent with the new type of counterinsurgency thinking that General Petraeus and others have brought to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which is based on getting the local population on your side.


16 posted on 02/19/2010 9:32:08 AM PST by freethinker_for_freedom
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

The only correct way to handle them is not to take them alive in the first place, or failing that, to shoot them dead while they’re trying to escape. Thanks Ed25.


17 posted on 02/19/2010 5:19:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: freethinker_for_freedom

Then I stand corrected. However, I see the spreading tendency to handle combatants as if they were merely common criminals....perhaps here more than in the actual theater of war. If Petraeus has instigated this policy, I will certainly accept it.


18 posted on 02/20/2010 11:36:54 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Ed25
Hey Marine....Make damn sure you give these POW's some cookies and milk, and a comfy cushion to go with their prayer mat, or you'll be court martialed!

Political correctness kills.

19 posted on 02/20/2010 1:31:34 PM PST by gitmogrunt (The stupidity of Obama and his Liberal's never ceases to amaze me.)
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