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20 Ships to Head for Clash in Gaza
Israel National News - Arutz Sheva ^ | Published: 02/21/10, 11:53 AM / Last Update: 02/21/10, 12:11 PM | Hillel Fendel

Posted on 02/21/2010 9:04:37 AM PST by sofaman

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To: sofaman
Don't know why I am reminded of this...

Battle of Lepanto (1571)

..."This Turkish defeat stopped Turkey's expansion into the Mediterranean, thus maintaining western dominance, and confidence grew in the west that Turks, previously unstoppable, could be beaten."

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Thus, this victory for the Holy League was historically important not only because the Turks lost 80 ships sunk and 130 captured by the Allies, and 30,000 men killed (not including 12,000 Christian galley slaves who were freed) while allied losses were only 7,500 men and 17 galleys - but because the victory heralded the end of Turkish supremacy in the Mediterranean.[7][14] It has been said that "after Lepanto the pendulum swung back the other way and the wealth began to flow from East to West", as well as "a crucial turning point in the ongoing conflict between the Middle East and Europe, which has not yet completely been resolved."

21 posted on 02/21/2010 9:59:28 AM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Luke 22:36 "Then said he unto them...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.")
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To: sofaman

If people are going to place bets on this event maybe it should be called Fantasy Flotilla!


22 posted on 02/21/2010 10:00:30 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: sofaman

Does anyone know if Cynthia McKinney is going to part of this?


23 posted on 02/21/2010 10:01:30 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: sofaman
If there is a blockade, then this scenario could happen:

1. The Israeli navy demands that the vessels heave-to for inspection.

2. Any contraband (military or dual-use technology) will result in seizure of the ship and its cargo; the vessels are taken to Haifa or Tel Aviv as prizes of war. Any obstructive persons can be struck below in irons.

3. Turkey can get the ships back by paying a fee to Israel, or Israel can sell them in prize courts.

4. If they carry only food and medicines and civilian clothing, they can pass.

If they try to evade the ships, then Israel can sink them.

24 posted on 02/21/2010 10:07:35 AM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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If this works, truck convoys from Mexico, humanitarian aid, of course. The drug cartels will organize them.

25 posted on 02/21/2010 10:09:15 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: sofaman

Sounds like time for the Israelis and Japanese whalers to form a mutual defense pact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXh1tW16V-8

Ramming Speed!


26 posted on 02/21/2010 10:54:09 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: sofaman

Turkey sure seems to be itching for a fight. I hope Israel has two words for them: Target Practice.


27 posted on 02/21/2010 10:58:24 AM PST by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

The Muslims will win the more important battle - the one of world popular opinion. I feel sorry for Israel. They’re screwed and there’s not a damn thing they can do about it.


28 posted on 02/21/2010 11:27:29 AM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998

“The Muslims will win the more important battle - the one of world popular opinion. I feel sorry for Israel. They’re screwed and there’s not a damn thing they can do about it.”

The Muslims, for some reason, are already more popular worldwide than Israel. Who else would they lose as a result of this incident? US Christians? No.

What is the negative effect of this incident on Israel? US foreign policy will still support them. I don’t see any fallout from this.


29 posted on 02/21/2010 2:15:33 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (If you meet people with no brain, no heart and no courage, you are not in KS-You are in the Congress)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

You wrote:

“US foreign policy will still support them.”

You think Obama supports Israel?

“I don’t see any fallout from this.”

Wait until it happens. The flotilla hasn’t even set sail yet.


30 posted on 02/21/2010 2:16:55 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: sofaman

Cynthia !!

Cynthia Mckinney!!..... are you going?


31 posted on 02/21/2010 2:23:15 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: GAB-1955

First we must define terms.

How small can a ship be until it becomes a boat?

They are planning a swarm just like the Iranians taught them

These are Turkish Iranian surrogates


32 posted on 02/21/2010 2:29:52 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: Snickering Hound

Won’t need that, given these are civilian ships. One naval artillery shell a ship would sink or cripple them.


33 posted on 02/21/2010 5:28:07 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: sofaman

An adequately-large hole in a hull negates the benefits of Archimedes’ principle...


34 posted on 02/21/2010 9:38:51 PM PST by TXnMA (D'Aleo re Hansen's "GISS" temperature database: "Non Gradus Anus Rodentum!")
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To: vladimir998

Me: ““US foreign policy will still support them.”

You: “You think Obama supports Israel?”

Absolutely not! But the American people, the American military, and at least some of the State Department still do. I don’t expect Obama to be any more successful in overcoming inertia than a good President would be.

Me: “I don’t see any fallout from this.”

You: “Wait until it happens. The flotilla hasn’t even set sail yet.”

Quite true. When will it sail?


35 posted on 02/22/2010 7:27:50 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (If you meet people with no brain, no heart and no courage, you are not in KS-You are in the Congress)
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To: hennie pennie; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
The Turkish IHH Humanitarian Relief Foundation announced that a fleet of 20 ships would be sent to break Israel’s embargo on Hamas-run Gaza two months from now. Five of the ships will be under the auspices of IHH; the support of charitable businessmen in Turkey is being sought for funding to purchase them... The ships were said to be planning to set sail for Gaza in March, in a convoy initiated by Hamas terror activist Muhammad Sualha, currently in Britain.
Thanks hp.
36 posted on 02/22/2010 8:24:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: sofaman
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37 posted on 02/23/2010 8:53:30 AM PST by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Veteran)
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