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Saturday Night Beck (Bennett's Beefs with Beck's Bloviations)
National Review Online ^ | Sunday, February 21, 2010 | Bill Bennett

Posted on 02/21/2010 2:10:47 PM PST by TruthHound

To say the GOP and the Democrats are no different, to say the GOP needs to hit a recovery-program-type bottom and hang its head in remorse, is to delay our own country’s recovery from the problems the Democratic left is inflicting. The stakes are too important to go through that kind of exercise, which will ultimately go nowhere anyway — because it’s already happened.

The first task of a serious political analyst is to see things as they are. There is a difference between morning and night. There is a difference between drunk and sober. And there is a difference between the Republican and Democratic parties. To ignore these differences, or propagate the myth that they don’t exist, is not only discouraging, it is dangerous.

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This is the most common thing I shout back at Glenn Beck on my TV. While Republicans have some penance due, this constant drumming of "there Republicans are JUST AS BAD as the Democrats is a steaming pile.

Lighten up, GB. If not for the Repubs, we'd be wallowing in Socialized Medicine, Card Check and Cap & Tax and unemployment would be double what it is right now.

1 posted on 02/21/2010 2:10:47 PM PST by TruthHound
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To: TruthHound

Quite frankly Im getting kind a tired of all in fighting. I could say a couple of things on Bennet that I do not approve on but what does that get us. NOWHERE. Stop it and focus on the big picture. Geez


2 posted on 02/21/2010 2:15:33 PM PST by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: TruthHound

Beck’s a pompous self-important boob, who only recently discovered the Constitution — not exactly some constitutional historian/wonk.

Prior to 2008ish, he was your run of the mill, middle of the road conservative talker with a low rated CNN show.


3 posted on 02/21/2010 2:16:17 PM PST by nhwingut (Palin/Bachmann '12)
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To: TruthHound

How about at least a strongly-worded public renunciation by the GOP of neoconnery?


4 posted on 02/21/2010 2:18:15 PM PST by ruination
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To: TruthHound

Where were all the GOP leaders during the BUSH drive to break the budget spending records? - Where was Cheney?

BECK’s right.

ZERO didnt neet a ‘birth certificate’ - not when the GOP gave ‘birth’ to his candidacy with their reckless spending, head-in-the-sand management of the economy, and mismanagement of the iraq war.


5 posted on 02/21/2010 2:18:34 PM PST by LibFreeUSA (Show me what Obama brought that was new and there you will find things only blind and destructive.)
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To: TruthHound

“there Republicans are JUST AS BAD as the Democrats is a steaming pile”

Give me the names of the horrible, evil Repblican counterpoints to Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Dodd, Frank, Dean, Rangell, Emanuel & Franken?

Actually, just give me 3 Republicans that would be the mirror image of these Democrats.


6 posted on 02/21/2010 2:19:02 PM PST by incredulous joe ("Peace begins with a smile." ~ Mother Teresa)
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To: TruthHound

and Bill “the Gambler” Bennett has been just great for conservatism and the GOP hasn’t he?


7 posted on 02/21/2010 2:21:13 PM PST by turducken
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To: TruthHound

The problem is that if we listen to Bennett then on the flip side of the next election 50% of all Republicans will slip-slide into their comfortable old BIPARTISAN shoes and lounge around “across the aisle” with their good friends and buds in the Other Spending Party and forget about the people shipping all those trillions of dollars up to their little gaming tables.

No. Sorry. Beck is right. We need a purging of the soul in the Republican ranks.

I only need say 3 words to prove my point:

President George Bush.


8 posted on 02/21/2010 2:21:19 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Utah Binger; JustPiper; CondoleezzaProtege

LOL, have these people been lurking on FR????


9 posted on 02/21/2010 2:22:19 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: TruthHound
Really?

Then pray tell, what did the Republitards do to reign in the profligate spending when they controlled both houses?

Can you name me 5 who do not accept Pork and Earmarks?

Also, please show me ONE, just ONE, Pube with a backbone (or better yet, a "PAIR") who has gone public with attacking all of Dear Leader's (not to mention Dingy Harry's and San Fran Nan's)agenda as well as his Fascist usurpation of power all the while ignoring the Constitution?

I'm a 66 year old Nam Vet who started off as a Demo-Rat, smartened up (I thought) and switched parties, that is until the party (under another famous RINO (there are many) Ford, refused to uphold his sworn oath and rolled over when Congress cut off aid to South Vietnam and left that country (and many acquaintances and friends) to fend for themselves and certain prison, torture and death.

That's when I knew the Republican party had left me and there was not a dime's worth of difference between the 2 and I became and Independent Conservative.

As an aside, what to hell do all you Beck Bashers think the Tea Party is all about?

Just because he calls them like he sees them, y'all should not get your knickers in a bunch and let your wittle feelings get hurt.

Until such time as we find some leadership and spine in the R Party, I will continue to be an Independent and support similar conservatives as I have done for the past (almost) 40 years.

Like him or hate him, Beck has done more to energize the Conservative movement than almost anyone, other that Rush and Rush, being more PC than Beck, has been reluctant to take on the Pubes and used to drive me crazy when he gave Mr. SUPER RINO and "Compassionate Conservative" George W Bush a pass.

10 posted on 02/21/2010 2:26:01 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: ruination

“renunciation...of neoconnery” ??? What do you have against aging Scottish actors?

Sheesh!

But, it’s still time to take back the country. Pointing the pubbies to the light of conservatism is a good place to start.


11 posted on 02/21/2010 2:28:12 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: PubliusMM

seanconnery, yes. neoconnery, no.


12 posted on 02/21/2010 2:30:38 PM PST by ruination
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Bill Bennett is a Cocktail-Circuit RINO who schmoozes with all the lefty MSM 'intelligentsia'.

I stopped caring a long time ago what Bill Bennett had to say after he started being an Obama Cheerleader.



"Conservative talk-show host and CNN contributor Bill Bennett said he understands why the Obama campaign is upset with the cover. "The New Yorker blew this," he said. "It has a distinguished history and great writing. I read The New Yorker occasionally. But it was tasteless and stupid. The intellectuals missed it ... and it backfired on them. If I were the Obama campaign, I would be furious at these people."
13 posted on 02/21/2010 2:33:38 PM PST by WaterBoard
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

See the thing is that there are people on both sides of the aisle who like the Nancy Pelosi style of housecleaning. Some only want to get rid of red dirt and some only want to get rid of blue dirt.

As far as I’m concerned, dirt is dirt and here’s to hoping these people have good reason to keep whining about Beck. If they ever find reason to stop crying, we’ll have achieved good governance.


14 posted on 02/21/2010 2:33:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: samtheman

Everyone in this forum has been waiting for one of the idiots from Maine to break with the party and vote for Obamacare. Specter was constantly fighting the Republican party on issues, but now that he has found his home in the Democrat party, has anyone heard him stand up to them? No he votes in lock step. Clearly he should have been there all along. Beck is right, we allow the Democrats to frame the argument. It is time we get political representatives that argue the issues rather than how much they agree with the Dems.


15 posted on 02/21/2010 2:33:59 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: TruthHound
Why don't all of these pundits put their hat in the political ring?
From Beck, to Hannity, to Rush, to Coulter, to O'Reilly, to too many names to list, none of them run for public office. And that's not even mentioning the left. Where's Maddow or Olbermann on the political ticket?
If their real desire was to get America back on track, or of the track if the shoe fits, then wouldn't they get that job done more easily as an elected official?
So what is their real desire? Money? (got that) Fame? (got that too) A conservative America? (it's what they say, not what they do) The continuation of inept government ensuring their jobs as pundits? (Hmmmmmmm)
If they're all sooooo smart then let them run for office and fix things to their liking.
Or is sniping from the sidelines all these "oh so smart" 'journalists' and 'reporters' capable of doing?
(Oh, that's right, they're 'pitch men' or 'idea men'...you get the idea?)
16 posted on 02/21/2010 2:34:22 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: TruthHound

Well, it’s somewhere in between these two positions, isn’t it. The Republicans are not quite as bad as the Democrats, but they have lost their way and don’t seem to know which end is up any more.

The Democrats are screwing up big time, and are likely to lose big time at the polls next fall. But who will replace them? A bunch of me-too RINOs like the ones who brought the party into disrepute and paved the way for Obama?

Who does Bill Bennett think will save us? Mitt Romney?

We need RINOs in some of the liberal states, like Collins and Snowe. We can deal with them, as long as we have strong leadership that will keep them in line. But we don’t need RINOs in conservative states. Yet the leadership keeps promoting more and more of them.

It’s not enough to go back to business as usual. After a century of moving steadily leftward and accumulating power in Washington, we need to reverse that process. And we’re not going to do that without genuinely new and strong leadership.

I agree that Beck sometimes goes over the top. But we don’t need Bill Bennett running things, either.


17 posted on 02/21/2010 2:35:02 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: altura; onyx; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...
"The first task of a serious political analyst is to see things as they are. There is a difference between morning and night. There is a difference between drunk and sober. And there is a difference between the Republican and Democratic parties. To ignore these differences, or propagate the myth that they don’t exist, is not only discouraging, it is dangerous."

HEAR, HEAR !!!

18 posted on 02/21/2010 2:35:34 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: TruthHound

To a large extent, Beck is correct.
Several generations since FDR, including Republicans, have had the idea imprinted on their synapses that it’s the Government’s function to direct society and “solve problems”- a far cry from the founders’ original design


19 posted on 02/21/2010 2:35:39 PM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: PubliusMM

Pointing the pubbies to the light of conservatism is a good place to start.<<

The Republican party has to be reformed, The dems have to be soundly defeated and removed. A third party is suicide!
Infighting is unproductive!


20 posted on 02/21/2010 2:38:35 PM PST by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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