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Unconcealed gun causes stir in Prosser restaurant(WA)
tri-cityherald.com ^ | 21 February, 2010 | Kristin M. Kraemer

Posted on 02/22/2010 6:35:44 AM PST by marktwain

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To: buffyt
The only way that I have found any logic in the anti-gun, anti-freedom types is to assume that they want to ban guns altogether. If you assume this, nearly all of their agenda makes sense.
41 posted on 02/22/2010 9:31:06 AM PST by marktwain
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42 posted on 02/22/2010 9:32:51 AM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: marktwain

Causes a stir, eh? What did the other customers do? Did they go running to management, saying, “Mommy, Mommy, please get rid of that awful man with that big handgun?”


43 posted on 02/22/2010 9:41:21 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I am Ellie Light.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No, that was when the police showed up! *sarcasm off*


44 posted on 02/22/2010 9:49:39 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Red in Blue PA

Yep, when seconds count, the police are just minutes away.


45 posted on 02/22/2010 9:50:35 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I am Ellie Light.)
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To: BerryDingle
According to police reports, the McDonald's manager said that when she asked Dohmen to leave because of his gun, he tapped the holstered pistol and told her, "Bring it bitch."

She's probably back in her double-wide or project apartment thinking, "Yeah, I taught that sumbitch a lesson, didn't I?"

46 posted on 02/22/2010 9:52:01 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I am Ellie Light.)
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To: GoDuke; All
Great discussion of the original incident and preparation for the protest at Opencarry at the link below:

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum57/38256-2.html

Lots of inside information that was not in the article.

47 posted on 02/22/2010 10:00:34 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Yep, when seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

In her case, almost an hour.
48 posted on 02/22/2010 10:23:42 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: buffyt; All
You used to see pick up trucks with rifle in back window clearly visible.

Otherwise, known as the Good Old Days with low crime.
49 posted on 02/22/2010 10:25:03 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: MrB

That’s because a majority of liberalism is a genetic defect. There’s something missing. When a conservative engages a liberal in a debate, we are speaking a language they can not understand, talking about concepts that they can not grasp. That’s why I don’t waste my time talking to liberals anymore.


50 posted on 02/22/2010 10:26:23 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; All

Funny how the so called “right to privacy” does not extend to our guns & ammo!


51 posted on 02/22/2010 10:29:40 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

When I was a deputy sheriff in a rural county we would be, and usually were, a long way out. People would call and wait for us while dogs were killing their livestock! It just amazed me. I’d tell them to buy a rifle and next time get to work. Some of them would stare at me slackjawed as though I were insane.
Most folks took care of business and didn’t waste their time calling us. Some folks just insisted on being taken care of.


52 posted on 02/22/2010 10:31:55 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: steve86

I wonder if McD has a corporate policy.

Regardless, as much as open carry is a right, so is
a private property owner entitles to control what
happens on his private property.

Prosser is a stop on I-90 heading toward Spokane/Idaho
and points east and is a pretty busy place.


53 posted on 02/22/2010 11:21:13 AM PST by rahbert
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It is on I-82 between Yakima and the Tri-Cities.

I do think that when a private property owner/manager requests an individual to leave, the person should exit immediately with no back talk, threatening, proselytizing or handing out brochures. I don't know what really happened. I might try to get to a hearing/trial if one is in the cards.

54 posted on 02/22/2010 11:25:03 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

duh! thats right, its past Yakima, out in the ‘wine country’.


55 posted on 02/22/2010 11:31:52 AM PST by rahbert
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To: MrB

And Leftists always say they are the enlightened, intellectually superior ones!


56 posted on 02/22/2010 12:20:50 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: steve86; rahbert; Scotsman will be Free
I do think that when a private property owner/manager requests an individual to leave, the person should exit immediately with no back talk, threatening, proselytizing or handing out brochures.

Bears repeating.

I'm all for legal open carry, and ALL sides should be respectful of the law and the other person's rights, responsibilities and duties.

Martinez wrote that Dohmen "was extremely verbal and was very upset I was taking the firearm from him."

"I said, 'You do not have my permission to do that,' " Dohmen said of the officer taking his legally carried, loaded gun.

This would not have been my personal, preferred response when being legally stopped by uniformed officers.

Seems a bit odd also that when the police arrived, drawn and ready for the worst, that the wife's reaction is to try to get into the car in order to hand the officers some brochures.

Gail Dohmen, 63, said she was upset as she watched what was happening to her husband. She said she tried to grab Open Carry brochures from the car to give the officers but was told to move away or face arrest.

There's a time and a place for this sort of thing, and the middle of a stop like this is not it.

57 posted on 02/22/2010 12:26:06 PM PST by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

Many people do not do what we would consider the right thing at the appropriate time when in these sorts of situations.
It is either because they are extremist whackos, stupid, or not thinking clearly because they have never been on the wrong end of an encounter with the police. If you have been a law abiding citizen all your life and are suddenly being treated as suspect it tends to create a bit of an uproar.

I agree with your first paragraph. I also know that that specific law is BS. What may bother you, doesn’t bother me and vice versa.

I do not like police reports that have subjective garbage in them like “extremely verbal” and “very upset”. If I were his sergeant, his report would have been sent back with instructions to cite specific examples that show “very upset” and “extremely verbal.” Otherwise it is fluff, and a decent lawyer would eat him for lunch.
Simple philosophy. If it isn’t in the report it didn’t happen.


58 posted on 02/22/2010 12:43:52 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Points taken. Agreed and well-stated, thank you :-)


59 posted on 02/22/2010 12:46:48 PM PST by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

Thank you.
There is another story about the state supremes’ decision that states the 2nd amendment applies to Washingtonians.


60 posted on 02/22/2010 1:13:21 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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