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German MPs suggest cash-strapped Greece should sell islands
The Local ^ | 3/4/2010 | AFP

Posted on 03/04/2010 9:57:07 AM PST by RedDogzRule

"The Greek state must sell stakes in companies and also assets such as, for example, unpopulated islands," Frank Schäffler, a member of parliament for the pro-business Free Democrats, told the Bild daily.

Marco Wanderwitz, an MP for Merkel's own conservative Christian Democrats, said Athens should provide collateral for any money it receives from the European Union to help it out of its debt crisis.

"In this case, certain Greek islands also come into question," added Wanderwitz.

"We give you cash, you give us Corfu," the Bild commented.

Greece has around 6,000 islands off its coast, of which only 227 are inhabited, according to the country's National Tourism Office website.

The cash-strapped country Wednesday launched a fresh round of draconian austerity measures in a bid to rein in a ballooning budget deficit that is more than four times above EU limits.

The Socialist government increased sales, tobacco and alcohol taxes and cut public sector holiday allowances to save €4.8 billion ($6.5 billion), equal to about two percent of gross domestic product (GDP). Pensions in the public and private sector were also frozen.

Merkel is set to hold talks with Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou on Friday to discuss the situation in Greece.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debt; germany; greece; greek; islands
I'm sure the rich spoiled German politicians would be happy to buy some of Greece's property. After all, Germany tried before to get some of the islands, so why not try again?
1 posted on 03/04/2010 9:57:07 AM PST by RedDogzRule
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To: RedDogzRule

wow.

How about making BIG budget cuts??


2 posted on 03/04/2010 10:00:56 AM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: RedDogzRule

Well, when you go begging for money, don’t be surprised if the folks with the money want something in return...


3 posted on 03/04/2010 10:01:12 AM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: RedDogzRule

Oh, is it only the empty ones? I kinda had dibs on Santorini...


4 posted on 03/04/2010 10:01:49 AM PST by GnuHere
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To: RedDogzRule

So how many islands can we sell off California’s coast? After all, they’re just a little behind Greece


5 posted on 03/04/2010 10:02:40 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: GnuHere

Be careful. Its going in blow again maybe within the next
thaousand years.


6 posted on 03/04/2010 10:02:52 AM PST by rahbert (Round up the color experts!)
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To: RedDogzRule

Germans have bought half of Spain. They particularly love the islands, where they go and get 3rd degree sunburns and surf the net for child porn (which seems to be a particularly German delight).


7 posted on 03/04/2010 10:03:18 AM PST by livius
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Dibs on Catalina.


8 posted on 03/04/2010 10:06:48 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: livius

I’ve seen that crap in the magazine racks at truck-stops in France, too. Seems to be a European obsession, sadly. The Germans are hilarious: they’re very staid and proper in Germany and let loose outside their borders (hmmm, sounds familiar). In Italy, they roll around on the beaches at 8am, like white whales calling out for “vino, subito!”.


9 posted on 03/04/2010 10:08:14 AM PST by RedDogzRule ("We will be known forever by the tracks we leave." - Lakota (especially on the Internet))
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To: rahbert
Be careful. Its going in blow again

And when it does, as it inevitably will, I wouldn't want to be anywhere in the Mediterranean basin. Living near tectonic plate boundaries carries serious risks.

10 posted on 03/04/2010 10:09:03 AM PST by Bernard Marx (I don’t trust the reasoning of anyone who writes then when they mean than.)
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To: RedDogzRule
And what happens when they run out of islands?
11 posted on 03/04/2010 10:09:34 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Bernard Marx

Traveling to Pompeii and seeing all the destruction and looking not far into the distance and seeing Vesuvius was a bit unnerving for me,I must say.


12 posted on 03/04/2010 10:11:46 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I suspect they’ll have trouble trying to take Crete again.


13 posted on 03/04/2010 10:12:25 AM PST by RedDogzRule ("We will be known forever by the tracks we leave." - Lakota (especially on the Internet))
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To: RedDogzRule

Rosie O’Doller and Helen Isgenerous might make a bid on the Island of Lesbos!


14 posted on 03/04/2010 10:16:26 AM PST by Young Werther (wtih)
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To: RedDogzRule

Greece selling its assets for money would be a sensible, responsible way out of their self-created mess.

So I think we all know what will happen.


15 posted on 03/04/2010 10:16:52 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: RedDogzRule

what about any supermodels?


16 posted on 03/04/2010 10:16:59 AM PST by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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To: Billthedrill
"Dibs on Catalina."

I've got my eye on Coronado...
17 posted on 03/04/2010 10:17:06 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: RedDogzRule

Go for a time share.

Live on a Greek island for twelve months, and let the Greek unions live there for the other two.


18 posted on 03/04/2010 10:19:45 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: rahbert

While waiting for that to happen, it would be prettier than living around the New Madrid fault as I do now...


19 posted on 03/04/2010 10:21:10 AM PST by GnuHere
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To: RedDogzRule

Wonder who will buy Lesbos?


20 posted on 03/04/2010 10:26:14 AM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: SIDENET

I hope someone instead of Rosie and Ellen. That’s the home of ouzo!

http://www.hulu.com/watch/101853/three-sheets-lesbos-greece#s-p8-sa-i0


21 posted on 03/04/2010 10:32:53 AM PST by RedDogzRule ("We will be known forever by the tracks we leave." - Lakota (especially on the Internet))
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To: RedDogzRule
“I’m sure the rich spoiled German politicians would be happy to buy some of Greece’s property. After all, Germany tried before to get some of the islands, so why not try again?”

They aren’t trying to steal them, they are saying if you want money don’t expect to get something for nothing. It’s the Greeks who are trying to steal by expecting to be bailed out for free. I think the US should be selling it’s public lands to pay off it’s debts too. Land, like companies, or collective farms, that are publicly owned is a communist idea and should be constitutionally prohibited.

22 posted on 03/04/2010 10:35:29 AM PST by monday
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To: monday

I guess I wasn’t too clear that I was speaking tongue in cheek. My apologies. I’ve corrected my comment below:

“I’m sure the rich spoiled German politicians would be happy to buy some of Greece’s property. After all, Germany tried before to get some of the islands, so why not try again?”/TIC (tongue in cheek)


23 posted on 03/04/2010 10:43:47 AM PST by RedDogzRule ("We will be known forever by the tracks we leave." - Lakota (especially on the Internet))
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To: monday

Re: “Land, like companies, or collective farms, that are publicly owned is a communist idea and should be constitutionally prohibited”

Uh ... land ownership by the feds is, in fact, mostly constitutionally prohibited. Federal land ownership is constitutionally permitted only to the extent that congress may control “Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings.” All other land ownership is unconstitutional in terms of the 10th Amendment.

Not that constitutionality has mattered much for the last 100+ years.


24 posted on 03/04/2010 10:48:10 AM PST by Jubal Harshaw
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To: Gay State Conservative

thats the problem with socialism, sooner or later, you run out of islands to sell


25 posted on 03/04/2010 10:48:19 AM PST by tm61 (somewhere in chicago, a ward is missing it's crook)
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To: Gay State Conservative
And what happens when they run out of islands?

The Germans will just depopulate some of the other islands and then buy them. The Germans are very good at depopulating areas when the want a little lebensraum. Hey Greece, works makes free ya know.
26 posted on 03/04/2010 10:49:40 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: monday

Did Germany ever compensate Greece for the costs of the Nazi occupation?


27 posted on 03/04/2010 10:57:05 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: monday
I think the US should be selling it’s public lands to pay off it’s debts too.

They would be, if those lands weren't already pledged to China as collateral against any future decline in Treasury value. :)

28 posted on 03/04/2010 11:01:36 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: RedDogzRule

Yes! they could be called the $$.


29 posted on 03/04/2010 11:01:47 AM PST by MCF
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To: Gay State Conservative
I live on the Pacific Plate, headed (imperceptibly) north. Eastward across the San Andreas Fault, which separates the Pacific and American Plates, is the Long Valley Caldera, one of the largest calderas on earth. (A caldera is a depression left when surface strata collapse after a big volcano exhausts its magma chamber after an eruption.) Long Valley is 20 miles wide and still active. It has the destructive potential of the Yellowstone hot-spot but it's not as well understood.

Mt. Rainer, Mt. Hood, Mt. Shasta and dozens of other active volcanoes dot America's Left Coast. Most carry far more destructive potential than the relatively puny Mt. St. Helen's eruption.

My point: you don't have to travel to Italy to face the dangers of a Vesuvius or Etna. We live on a very dynamic and violent planet and the residents of Portland, Seattle, Los Angeles and San Francisco (to name a few) face many of the same risks as Pompeii.

30 posted on 03/04/2010 11:20:00 AM PST by Bernard Marx (I don’t trust the reasoning of anyone who writes then when they mean than.)
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To: Billthedrill

I’d be real happy if Texas picked up Catalina Island. Y’know, an island of sanity, here on the left coast.


31 posted on 03/04/2010 11:32:20 AM PST by GunsAndBibles (God save Calif. - 'cause it's gonna take a miracle.)
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To: RedDogzRule
After all, Germany tried before to get some of the islands, so why not try again?

If you mean WWII, not really. Mussolini attacked Greece.

Hitler always faces me with a fait accompli. This time I am going to pay him back in his own coin. He will find out from the papers that I have occupied Greece. Benito Mussolini

But then he needed a bailout due to military incompetence...
32 posted on 03/04/2010 12:00:30 PM PST by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: wolf78

This is what I was alluding to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Crete


33 posted on 03/04/2010 12:04:33 PM PST by RedDogzRule ("We will be known forever by the tracks we leave." - Lakota (especially on the Internet))
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To: RedDogzRule

after they run out of islands, what will they sell of next?

the women ?!?


34 posted on 03/04/2010 1:33:42 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad
after they run out of islands, what will they sell of next?

They could sell the Elgin Marbles to the British Museum. Ummm.....wait....the museum already has them. Nevermind.

35 posted on 03/04/2010 2:40:06 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: RedDogzRule

Here we go again...


36 posted on 03/04/2010 2:48:41 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TexasRepublic

lord elgin used fake documents and bribes to move them.

Then Duveen made copies and sold them as originals

Who actually loaned this money? If is the germans and the french, how about just simple loan forgiveness in the name of EU unity....( not so /s)


37 posted on 03/04/2010 2:52:11 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Bernard Marx
the residents of Portland, Seattle

Well, I don't know. In any human-like span of time -- say a few hundred years -- the risk to residents near the Cascade volcanoes is more of relatively smaller eruptions (such as Helens), ash, and mud flows then it is of catastrophic eruptions creating great calderas. Yes, the latter can occur (as it did in central Oregon) but not often or recently.

38 posted on 03/04/2010 2:58:26 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86
My only point was that human perceptions of the risks posed by volcanoes are greatly skewed. Our life spans are short compared to the immensities of geologic time, and we always seem to be surprised and even offended when these great, erratic monsters turn deadly.

Our methods of predicting earthquakes and volcanic eruptions are so primitive as to be nonexistent in any practical sense. While Pompeii is an historical reminder of relatively recent volcanic devastation, can you give me an iron-clad assurance that Portland and Seattle won't be buried like Pompeii in say the next 50 years?

39 posted on 03/04/2010 4:22:43 PM PST by Bernard Marx (I don’t trust the reasoning of anyone who writes then when they mean than.)
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To: Bernard Marx

I LOVE IT! After taking the wrong side during the cold war and Papandreau’s family taking all kinds of pot shots at the U.S. they are finally getting their just desserts. The people of that country could not have hated us as much as they do without the government stirring up public opinion. Remember the Russians shooting down the KAL airliner in 1983? They supported the Russians on that one. I say offer to purchase the islands at fire sale prices. Have some fun with them. If they were that desperate I don’t think that more money from Germany or China would be that appealing. Rub it in.


40 posted on 03/05/2010 8:26:59 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: dfwgator
Greece won't seek WWII reparations from Germany during debt crisis, prime minister says
41 posted on 03/05/2010 8:32:19 AM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: livius
Germans have bought half of Spain.

And sometimes it seems as though the Brits have the other half, but that would be ignoring the Arabs in Marbella.

The Germans also dominate the Algarve in Portugal. You hear more German be spoken there than Portuguese, increasingly in the off season.

42 posted on 03/05/2010 1:46:46 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: RedDogzRule

The Germans are playing the Greeks like a fiddle.

The Hellens aren’t all that smart,they think they are,but they are not.

Eventually they will get tired of others making fools of them;then they will do something really stupid.


43 posted on 03/06/2010 10:56:02 PM PST by Del Rapier
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