Posted on 03/04/2010 5:13:54 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
Don’t look surprised. The left has been remarkably candid about this over the past year or two. Again and again and again and again and again and again and again they’ve warned people that the dream is bigger than universal coverage or even the public option.
Memo from The One to progressives: Keep the dream alive.
Obama argued to the group of progressive members that his health care reform bill should be looked at as the foundation of reform, that can be built on in the future. He asked them to help gather votes for the final health care battle and promised that as soon as the bill was signed into law, he’d continue to push to make it stronger. But in a matter of weeks, he stressed, he could sign into law legislation that would lead to 31 million new people being insured, including the woman who wrote him…
“He just said that the public option, something that he has supported along the way, is not something that we can pass. And he emphasized the fact that the decision now is between doing as much as we can do and doing nothing. That’s it. He thought the whole foundation thing — that this is definitely something we could be proud of, something we could build off [of],” said Schakowsky.
Woolsey told Obama that she’d be introducing legislation to create a public option and Obama said he encouraged the effort, according to Schakowsky.
Here’s an especially fun passage. Remember, Obama was self-described proponent of single-payer as recently as 2003 before deciding that it’s simply too impractical to pass. For now.
None of the members, including Kucinich, indicated that they would vote any differently this time around.
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
Lenin and Mao built on their dreams too.
They won't be so open in the future.
Counting his chickens before they’re hatched again.
“Keep the dream alive.”
Hitler, too, had big dreams as he moved imaginary divisions around the table in the bunker. And the NDSP continued rubberstamping the fuhrer’s decrees right to the end. When Heinrich Holder walks into the whitehouse with his dog and family, we’ll know the end is near. I don’t know who gets to play Eva.
The arrogant egomaniac’s greatest achievement will be the destruction of the democrat party. He is a pathetic and petty punk.
First they came for the Unborn...granny and gamps are next.
OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!
SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!
PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121
Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!
OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/
New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.
Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security
Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts
Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html
Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors
Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html
SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2463709/posts
MILITARY & Retired MILITARY
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:
http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html
This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries
Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/
By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009
Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.
Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.
“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.
nobama MUST return to his home planet. He MUST!!!!!!!
I'm 5 weeks shy of turning 53. After Granny and Gramps my age group will be next on their hit list.
I’m 63 and on disability, 3 forms of arthritis. So I know I’m on their list.
HELL?
I KNOW I'm on their hit list!
I APPLAUD THE AMERICAN PEOPLES COMPOSURE THRU ALL OF THIS IT’S GETTING HARDER EACH DAY TO BE CIVIL.
Remember when Obama said we needed comprehensive health care now, because he wanted to be the last president to ever deal with the problem?
Of course, Obama lies quite a bit.
For once he’s not lying. Oh the things they will do, the power they will have is the reason he’s willing to be a one term president and they are willing to lose seats over this....there is much to be gained for the Loony Liberals. I also think they are such elitists that they really believe on some level if they can just pass this “reform” then the American people will see how wonderful it is and embrace them. We’re just too stupid to realize it right now.
OA, OP, and Fibromyalgia, world is a blur with no glasses, and I need new ones every year, which I pay about $500 for not some ins. company, plus 15 lbs overweight.
From TN Eagle Forum this morning, these are the people they want contacted ASAP.
How Democrats could pass health bill with 51 votes
PLEASE CALL! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE State District
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190, (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542, (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 , (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947, 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761, 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541, (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176, (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976, 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315, 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276, (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802, (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252, 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456, (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441, (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611, (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665, (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701, (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611, (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216, (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015, (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265, (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406, (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276, (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731, (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511, (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501, (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711, (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172, (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452, (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665, (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
From TN Eagle Forum this morning, these are the people they want contacted ASAP.
How Democrats could pass health bill with 51 votes
PLEASE CALL! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE State District
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190, (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542, (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 , (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947, 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761, 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541, (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176, (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976, 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315, 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276, (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802, (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252, 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456, (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441, (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611, (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665, (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701, (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611, (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216, (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015, (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265, (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406, (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276, (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731, (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511, (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501, (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711, (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172, (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452, (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665, (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
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