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Obama looking to give new life to immigration reform (Amnesty to illegal aliens)
LA Times ^ | March 4, 2010 | 6:18 p.m. | Peter Nicholas

Posted on 03/05/2010 7:03:21 AM PST by BP2


Despite steep odds, the White House has discussed prospects for reviving a major overhaul of the nation's immigration laws, a commitment that President Obama has postponed once already.

Obama took up the issue privately with his staff Monday in a bid to advance a bill through Congress before lawmakers become too distracted by approaching midterm elections.

In the session, Obama and members of his Domestic Policy Council outlined ways to resuscitate the effort in a White House meeting with two senators -- Democrat Charles E. Schumer of New York and Republican Lindsey Graham of South Carolina -- who have spent months trying to craft a bill.

According to a person familiar with the meeting, the White House may ask Schumer and Graham to at least produce a blueprint that could be turned into legislative language.

The basis of a bill would include a path toward citizenship for the 10.8 million people living in the U.S. illegally. Citizenship would not be granted lightly, the White House said. Undocumented workers would need to register, pay taxes and pay a penalty for violating the law. Failure to comply might result in deportation.


Nick Shapiro, a White House spokesman, said the president's support for an immigration bill, which would also include improved border security, was "unwavering."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bho44; bhocira; bhoillegals; democratvoters; graham; grahamnesty; illegalaliens; illegals; immigration; lindseygraham; mccain; mccain4illegals; mccaingrahamantigop; mccainmutiny; mclamesrevenge; obama; obamacare
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This has been Obama's plan from the very beginning:

ObamaCare + Amnesty = Democratic Votes

If ObamaCare falls apart, so does the rest of the equation.

1 posted on 03/05/2010 7:03:22 AM PST by BP2
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To: BP2

He can’t pass anything. That will go over huge with unemployment at record levels.


2 posted on 03/05/2010 7:05:04 AM PST by scooby321
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To: BP2

Any fool knew this was coming. This is one of the main reasons Obama is so rabid about passing the big health care giveaway to illegals. Buying votes. People must learn that none of this is about health care for the people — it is about POWER AND CONTROL for Obama.


3 posted on 03/05/2010 7:05:48 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: BP2

How can anything that REWARDS people for breaking the law be called (with any level of ethical or logical foundation) - “reform”?


4 posted on 03/05/2010 7:05:50 AM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: BP2

I wonder if the Dims are going to go for the third and forth planks of their plan soon?
1. Gun Control (New AWB, HR45, ect)
2. Disarmament and reductions of the military


5 posted on 03/05/2010 7:08:17 AM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: BP2
That article is target rich. "...with the healthcare debate still unresolved, Democrats are wary of plunging into another polarizing issue." Also, "...having trouble rounding up Republican supporters apart from Graham." They are preparing to throw gasoline on themselves and light the match. And finally, "...Undocumented workers would need to register, pay taxes and pay a penalty for violating the law. Failure to comply might result in deportation."
6 posted on 03/05/2010 7:09:08 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: BP2

From Rasmussen:

As the country wrestles with a future of historic-level deficits, 67% of U.S. voters say that illegal immigrants are a significant strain on the U.S. budget.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 23% disagree and do not believe illegal immigration is a strain on the budget.

Two-out-of-three (66%) voters say the availability of government money and services draw illegal immigrants to the United States. Nineteen percent (19%) think otherwise and do not believe government money and services are a magnet for illegal immigration. Another 15% are not sure


7 posted on 03/05/2010 7:10:17 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: BP2

Right you are!!!!

Somebody PLEASE explain this equation to Orrin Hatch.

I heard on FOX News today that one of the Dems who is trending against the vote has a brother up for appointment to the Federal Bench.

FOX said that Orrin Hatch has no problem with the appointment and Obama’s albino mouthpiece said so also, so I guess the guy is from Orrin Hatch’s state - Utah.

Hatch always was a goofy sort of jerk so it doesn’t surprise me he would do something this incredibly stupid.

He SHOULD block the guy’s appointment instead of helping Obama with his political machinations.


8 posted on 03/05/2010 7:10:21 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana; Liz

ping


9 posted on 03/05/2010 7:11:09 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: BP2

Twelve million new enslaved, uneducated, welfare Democrats is just too big a prize to abandon.


10 posted on 03/05/2010 7:12:23 AM PST by pabianice
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To: BP2

Equally interesting that he has Gomer Pyle from South Carolina in on the scheme.

After all, Pyle’s Maxi-Me, Juan McCainez is running in a primary in Arizona and has to pretend he is a real Republican right now, so he sent his Mini-Me Lindsey Graham (Gomer Pyle) to front for him on this.


11 posted on 03/05/2010 7:12:50 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: BP2
ObamaCare + Amnesty = Death of America

Probably closer to the true goal.

12 posted on 03/05/2010 7:13:55 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: BP2; rabscuttle385; Liz; pissant; gubamyster; stephenjohnbanker; All

“in a White House meeting with two senators — Democrat Charles E. Schumer of New York and Republican Lindsey Graham of South Carolina — who have spent months trying to craft a bill.”

I’m sure McCain is lurking in the background waiting for this one. He and Lindsey don’t care what the citizens of this country want. Every poll disagrees with a ‘path to citizenship’ for illegal aliens.

Even progressives want the insanity stopped.

http://www.progressivesforimmigrationreform.org/survey-of-600-progressives-and-liberals

Minority Advocates, Constituents Differ on Immigration - Zogby poll
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2459112/posts

Business and Labor on Immigration Contrasting Views of Leaders vs. Rank and File - Zogby Poll
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2443464/posts

Religious Leaders vs. Members: An Examination of Contrasting Views on Immigration
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2417069/posts

Public Opinion in Mexico on U.S. Immigration: Zogby Poll Examines Attitudes
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2362258/posts

Keyword: immigrationpoll


13 posted on 03/05/2010 7:18:44 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: BP2

Obama doesn’t breathe life into anything. He sucks it out.


14 posted on 03/05/2010 7:19:31 AM PST by JenB987 (under God's Spirit she flourishes)
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To: La Lydia

“.Undocumented workers would need to register, pay taxes and pay a penalty for violating the law. Failure to comply might result in deportation.”

Isn’t that special?? Might result in deportation....

All this amounts to is an invitation to any foreigner to come on in and we will never do anything about it. If this is like the last McCain amnesty, taxes will be waived, the fee will be waived and the doors will be wide open.


15 posted on 03/05/2010 7:21:09 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: BP2
ObamaCare + Amnesty = Democratic Votes

This was the plan all along. Illegals get free healthcare. It will overwhelm us financially , ration care for all and change the country forever (aka,transform)

16 posted on 03/05/2010 7:21:59 AM PST by opentalk
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To: BP2

he knows the clock is ticking....jam through as much Socialism as you can in the few months you have left


17 posted on 03/05/2010 7:22:00 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: BP2


18 posted on 03/05/2010 7:24:54 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: BP2; All


19 posted on 03/05/2010 7:26:09 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: scooby321

“He can’t pass anything”.....

He seems to be passing verbal gas just fine.....


20 posted on 03/05/2010 7:26:14 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: BP2

This should push those poll numbers sky high.


21 posted on 03/05/2010 7:27:49 AM PST by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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To: AuntB

Conveniently absent from the healthcare reform debate in recent months has been how we will deal with paying for healthcare services used by illegal aliens. Remember last fall when ObaMAO promised that illegals wouldn’t be covered by the House/Senate bills? His speeches changed the number of uninsured from 46M to 30M without coverage, apparently to exclude illegals from the universal coverage mandate. I am stupefied that this aspect of the debate isn’t discussed. The current House/Senate bills provide no solutions to dealing with illegals using medical services (i.e., emergency rooms as primary care centers).

Well, now we know how this part of the SCAM is meant to work. He was telling the truth - no illegals will be covered. There just won’t be any illegals anymore...

The House/Senate bills are a FRAUD on the American people.


22 posted on 03/05/2010 7:28:13 AM PST by pogeybait
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To: Thunder90

Obama is already working on disarmament - he’s trying to for unilateral nuclear disarmament.


23 posted on 03/05/2010 7:33:30 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: BP2
Why is it that every single time the word AMNESTY comes up, that jacka$$ Lindsey Grahamnesty's name is right alongside?

I'm truly sick of that RINO clown! He's a disgrace!

24 posted on 03/05/2010 7:34:55 AM PST by thecraw (God allows evil. God allowed Barry to usurp the highest office in the land. God will not be mocked.)
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To: BP2

All the numbers of illegals are based on a wild guess originally suggested by the early Bush administration and was never factually verified. Started at 8 million and then widely broadcast ever since at 13 million. The Pew Foundation and others have done studies and more reliably estimate the number at 50-55 million....and considering that they are cranking out babies every 9 months, the number is more likely over 100 million. Look around you...all the stores and schools are filled with Hispanics. The Los Angeles City School District itself estimates that 85-95% of its students are Hispanics. WE HAVE BEEN OVERRUN AND THAT IS WHY THE DEMOCRATS WILL DO ANYTHING THEY CAN TO GET THOSE VOTES...AND IF THEY DO, WE WILL NEVER GET RID OF THE DEMS IN OFFICE!


25 posted on 03/05/2010 7:36:44 AM PST by Stayfree (Patriotic Americans United.com also operates The Obama Disaster.com!!)
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To: BP2
before lawmakers become too distracted by approaching midterm elections

"Distracted" indeed! You know, having to get re-elected by those pesky voters in your district you visit a couple times a year. You know, "distracted" by trying somehow to get votes from those pesky voters you've outraged beyond imagining.

Somehow, I think the House Dims are already "distracted", so please, please, please pour some more gasoline on the voters and light the match 3-4 months before the election. Oh Yeah, start hammering on the House Dims with radical immigration "reform" legislation even before you force them to commit political suicide by swallowing the radioactive Obamacare pill.

Just do it! Yes you can!

26 posted on 03/05/2010 7:38:50 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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To: pogeybait; All

From NAFBPO Foreign news report:

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La Prensa Grafica (San Salvador, El Salvador) 3/2/10

Pro-immigrant march in the U.S.

The “Centro de Derechos Laborales” (Center for Labor Rights) is organizing a 400 kilometer march in support of an integral immigration reform in the U.S. The event is being programmed from March 12th to the 21st, from Hempstead, NY, to the Capitol in Washington, D.C. The organizers have provided two phone lines for more information: (516) 565-5377 and (516) 368-1912.

—————————

La Hora (Guatemala City, Guatemala) 3/2/10

Challenges to Guatemalans

“The snow storms and climate change will be largely affecting the work of more than 800,000 Guatemalans who are illegally in the United States, resulting in a drop of about 9 percent in the individual monetary remittances to Guatemalan families.”

Visit our website: http://www.nafbpo.org
Foreign News Report


27 posted on 03/05/2010 7:44:42 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: BP2

Like he hasn’t burned enough bridges with the American electorate.


28 posted on 03/05/2010 7:44:54 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: BP2

This is a Democratic wedge issue. They’re hoping to split the GOP over this just before the election. Considering people like Gramnesty... it could work.


29 posted on 03/05/2010 7:51:32 AM PST by rhombus
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To: BP2
If Obama has every intention of giving 12-30 million illegal aliens amnesty which will include them into Obamacare, then the proposed health care takeover bill that he is attempting to JAM DOWN ARE THROATS does NOT correctly state the true cost and America is being lied to once again. The CBO can only score the FACTS that are presented to them.

Every time this man-child's lips are moving out comes another lie - didn't he just say this week that Obamacare will actually bring down the country's deficit?

WAKE UP AMERICA, before we look like the USSR.
30 posted on 03/05/2010 7:52:35 AM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: EagleUSA

“Any fool knew this was coming. This is one of the main reasons Obama is so rabid about passing the big health care giveaway to illegals. Buying votes. People must learn that none of this is about health care for the people — it is about POWER AND CONTROL for Obama.”

Exactly. The promoters of this bill CIR/ASAP are organized and well financed.
Just one of their websites:

http://reformimmigrationforamerica.org/blog/

Here is the list of co sponsors:
http://reformimmigrationforamerica.org/blog/co-sponsors-of-the-cir-asap-act/


31 posted on 03/05/2010 7:54:43 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: AuntB

March on D.C., or he will pull it off!


32 posted on 03/05/2010 7:56:46 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: BP2
Socialized Medicine, then Amnesty, then Cap and Tax, then Card Check, then Fairness Doctrine, then they're coming after your Guns. Steel yourself, prepare and keep fighting in any way possible. Resist!

When you tire, think of the founders. . .

33 posted on 03/05/2010 8:01:11 AM PST by Art in Idaho
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To: scooby321

And if he thinks people are PO’d now . . .just wait


34 posted on 03/05/2010 8:02:23 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: BP2

Add thirty million more to their phonyass healthcare cost figures. What’s that going to do to CommieCare?


35 posted on 03/05/2010 8:03:38 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you liked 2009, you're going to LOVE 2010!!!!!)
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To: BP2
The basis of a bill would include a path toward citizenship for the 10.8 million people living in the U.S. illegally.

20million lying socialist.

36 posted on 03/05/2010 8:03:41 AM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: stephenjohnbanker; All

“March on D.C., or he will pull it off!”

The opposition is certainly planning on marching.

Obama risks alienating Latinos with lack of immigration reform
Mar. 5, 2010

I have known Barack Obama since 1986, when we were both community organizers. I am still organizing on the streets of Chicago, and what I see in the Latino community makes me fear that the president is oblivious to the pain wrought by our broken immigration system. It could have a profound effect on the 2010 and 2012 elections.

For a brief moment last year it appeared that Obama might realign the modern political map, cementing the Latino vote into the Democratic coalition by speaking plainly to the American people on the need for comprehensive immigration reform.

Instead, he squandered a political gift handed to him by the Republican Party’s nativist wing — and its anti-immigrant rhetoric — during the 2008 campaign. Candidate Obama promised to make immigration reform a priority during his first year in office, and the Latino vote surged to 10 million, from 7.8 million in 2004, and swung eight percentage points toward the Democrats.

After he went into politics, Obama and I worked collegially on issues as diverse as health care for working families to citizenship for new Americans

Obama was shocked at the visceral anger the fence vote caused among his closest Latino allies. At a meeting for damage control, Carmen Velásquez, founder of the Alivio Medical Center for the uninsured and the closest thing to the patron saint of the Mexican American poor, refused to shake his hand. Obama apologized for not understanding the intensity of their feelings —
Obama must lead the charge for immigration reform by telling Americans the truth: that tough, fair and compassionate immigration reform is necessary for America’s economy and national security, and not just for Latino voters. He must also, somehow, convince Latinos that he really does feel their pain. [snips]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/04/AR2010030404037.html


37 posted on 03/05/2010 8:03:58 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
March Assault on D.C., or he will pull it off!

There. Fixed it.
38 posted on 03/05/2010 8:04:27 AM PST by Dewey Revoltnow (Worst. Community. Organizer. Ever!)
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To: BP2

Both parties deprecated war, but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish, and the war came.


39 posted on 03/05/2010 8:07:19 AM PST by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: AuntB
People must learn that none of this is about health care for the people — it is about POWER AND CONTROL for Obama.”

Your statement is absolutely the truth and MUST be repeated, often! I get so frustrated with friends/family that are so concerned about what's in the *healthcare* bill.

It's all about THEIR control over you. They don't care ONE WIT about your HEALTH!!

40 posted on 03/05/2010 8:08:52 AM PST by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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To: Stayfree
The Pew Foundation and others have done studies and more reliably estimate the number at 50-55 million....and considering that they are cranking out babies every 9 months, the number is more likely over 100 million.

OMG, I didn't know it was that high. Time to enforce the laws on the books. Bring our Military home from Iraq and go house to house and Deport them!

41 posted on 03/05/2010 8:09:42 AM PST by Art in Idaho
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To: Art in Idaho

“Time to enforce the laws on the books. Bring our Military home from Iraq and go house to house and Deport them! “

One of the insidious parts of this new CIR/ASAP amnesty will call for NO national guard to ever be deployed on the border.


42 posted on 03/05/2010 8:13:45 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: All

43 posted on 03/05/2010 8:14:50 AM PST by Art in Idaho
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To: BP2
Citizenship would not be granted lightly, the White House said. Undocumented workers would need to register, pay taxes and pay a penalty for violating the law. Failure to comply might result in deportation.

Oooh how harsh!

Let's try this:

Only those who wait their turn, in their country of origin, at the end of a stingy quota line, would be granted citizenship.

44 posted on 03/05/2010 8:18:04 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: BP2

Some people here were quick to proclaim the assertion that this is how Obama plans to be re-elected after his Health Care plan is jammed down America.

Maybe they shouldn’t have pulled out the tin foil hats so soon?

To me, it has always been the obvious intended path.

Say hello to 30-40 million Illegal Alien Americans.


45 posted on 03/05/2010 8:18:06 AM PST by R0CK3T
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To: azishot; SwinneySwitch; wolfcreek; All

Check this report out. Evidently Cornyn is working with Graham/Obama on amnesty.

The immigration reform debate has no doubt been stalled. But there is some behind-the-scenes movement.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said he met this week with Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. on the issue. “I am interested in some ideas he has. I shared some ideas I have,” Cornyn said.

Schumer has been working with Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., on coming up with a compromise. Meetings are also ongoing between business and labor leaders.

Reform advocates are furious that Congress and President Obama have done so little to push for change. National Council of La Raza (NLCR) has a new video out urging action. Another Washington rally is also planned for later this month.

http://www.capitolnewsconnection.org/node/14111


46 posted on 03/05/2010 8:20:12 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: BP2
Great Math!

Another equation is:

ObamaCare + Amnesty = A Way to Pay for Obamacare

Obamacare (or any social program) can't work unless you have new taxpayers.
47 posted on 03/05/2010 8:22:48 AM PST by pprimeau1976
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To: BP2
Fellow Southerners, we may yet get another chance at throwing of the yoke of the Federal beast. Be patient. The backlash is brewing.


48 posted on 03/05/2010 8:25:58 AM PST by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: BP2

Translation: “If I can’t get them damned crackers to worship me, I’ll import some Mexicans, instead.”


49 posted on 03/05/2010 8:29:22 AM PST by DesertConservative
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To: AuntB
Same old BS on criminal entry into our country -- reward the criminal by providing a 'path to citizenship'. I see Lindsey Graham's name associated with so much liberal folly, I have a hard time believing he's a Republican.

One very important point. This push toward citizenship for 20-30 million illegals puts the lie to all those promises about the health care bill NOT providing health care to illegals. Because they won't be 'illegals' anymore. They will be 'landed immigrants' on the path to free stuff.

50 posted on 03/05/2010 8:29:41 AM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (Give 'em hell, Sarah!)
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