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To: jazusamo
With these ROE's, the blood of our fallen is on Obama's hands.

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
2 posted on 03/06/2010 10:53:06 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Agreed...If my son was still of the age to enlist I’d do everything I could to discourage him. Never thought I’d say that.


4 posted on 03/06/2010 10:56:06 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: ConorMacNessa

“With these ROE’s, the blood of our fallen is on Obama’s hands. “

Obama either cares less or is happy about it.


5 posted on 03/06/2010 11:02:50 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: ConorMacNessa

And to think that he may not be their ligitimate CIC but just a phony usurper. Let him prove that he is a rightful CIC.


14 posted on 03/06/2010 11:27:57 AM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: ConorMacNessa

So is that of our retired Military.

How one votes AFFECTS US ALL!

It ain’t dead until congress is recessed and we flip at least 1 in Nov, or we will be fighting this battle for 3 more years!

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.

Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts

Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html

Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors

Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2464538/posts

MILITARY & Retired MILITARY
Veterans’ G.I. Bill benefits MIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464680/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


23 posted on 03/06/2010 12:08:16 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: ConorMacNessa; jazusamo

I read an article a couple of weeks ago, wish I had saved it, that detailed how NGOs are making these demands on the ROE. The NGOs are “international human rights groups,” including the UN. And then we have McChrystal’s infamous apology.....


27 posted on 03/06/2010 1:05:29 PM PST by La Enchiladita (wise gringa)
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To: ConorMacNessa
With these ROE's, the blood of our fallen is on Obama's hands.

In all fairness, Obama and his "progressive socialists" only made it worse. Under Bush the rules were already set. I watched the entire development with the certain knowledge that the ROEs were costing American lives from the getgo, both in Afghanistan and in Iraq. Bush for years kept insisting that we were dealing with the "religion of peace." Until he sobered up; metaphorically.

In the last 40 years, the nature of war has changed completely and the U.S. "attitude" towards the change has been incompetent, bordering on criminal.

First of all, is the notion that the purpose of war is to "win their hearts and minds." Bullshit. That might work with human beings, but not with muslims.

The purpose of war is to win quickly, for the sake of both sides.

The second crime is declaring the mosques off limits, even when used as weapons and ammunition dumps, but also as sniper and sniper spotter posts. Big mistake. If a mosque joins the war, willingly or otherwise, it is a fair and immediate target. It is absurd that both sides of the enemy (the active ones and the passive ones) can claim that the "others" coerced them into allowing the abuse of the mosques.

Whether through the draft or as a voluntary army, I would refuse to fight with such ROEs. I would not allow my sons or daughters to do so either. Fighting for liberty is one thing; Dying for political brownie points by fat cowards sitting in DC is quite another. No compromise possible there.

Should we withraw from the sandmaggot snake pit (Afghanistan, Iraq, Pkistan)? Absolutely.

Fight to win, or get the hell out.

30 posted on 03/06/2010 3:06:55 PM PST by Publius6961 (You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do)
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