E-Mails Show Scientists Planning Push-Back Against 'McCarthyite' Attacks on Climate Science

NY Times ^ | March 5, 2010 | ALEX KAPLUN

[Macgedos]

Who leaked these e-mails or were they carefully leaked on purpose?

[neverdem]

I bet can take measurements and then use the numbers to prove that everytime AlGore farts, someone on China dies of a heart attack. I could probably prove it to a 100% correlation. But that wouldn’t prove his flatulence is actually a risk factor for Chinese heart failure.

You are mixing apples and oranges when you equate what lay people call a heart attack and heart failure.

The former can cause the latter, but vice versa has not been demonstrated, IMHO. There are multiple cause of heart failure.

Don't try to make cardiology that simple. It's not. Cardiology is just a part of medicine which is more complicated than most people can appreciate. Physicians don't require all of that extra schooling beyond college and post graduate training for nothing. IIRC, cardiologists have to do another two or three years during a fellowship studying cardiology and seeing and treating patients.

I enjoyed studying cardiology as a family practice resident. Medicine is simply fascinating.

[Madame Dufarge]

The following are two telegrams, one sent by Senator McCarthy to Harry Truman and a draft (noted as "probably unsent" though Truman chose to include it in his Presidential papers) of Truman's reply regarding Communists in the U. S. State Department.

McCarthy was, of course, right on the money for which the left's been vilifying him ever since.

Telegram from Senator McCarthy to Harry Truman, February 11, 1950:

"The President
The White House

In a Lincoln Day speech at Wheeling Thursday night I stated that the State Department harbors a nest of Communists and Communist sympathizers who are helping to shape our foreign policy. I further stated that I have in my possession the names of 57 Communists who are in the State Department at present.

A State Department spokesman flatly denied this and claimed that there is not a single Communist in the Department. You can convince yourself of the falsity of the State Department claim very easily. You will recall that you personally appointed a board to screen State Department employees for the purpose of weeding out fellow travelers. Your board did a pains-taking job and named hundreds which it listed as 'dangerous to the security of the nation,' because of Communistic connections.

While the records are not available to me, I know that of one group of approximately 300 certified to the Secretary for discharge, he actually discharged only approximately 80. I understand that this was done after lengthy consultation with Alger Hiss. I would suggest therefore, Mr. President, that you simply pick up your phone and ask Mr. Acheson how many of those whom your board had labeled as dangerous he failed to discharge.

The day the House Un-American Activities Committee exposed Alger Hiss as an important link in an inter-national Communist spy ring, you signed an order forbidding the State Department's giving to the Congress any information in regard to the disloyalty or the Communistic connections of anyone in that department. Despite this State Department blackout, we have been able to compile a list of 57 Communists in the State Department. This list is available to you, but you can get a much longer list by ordering the Secretary Acheson to give you a list of these whom your own board listed as being disloyal, and who are still working in the State Department.

I believe the following is the minimum which can be expected of you in this case.

(1) That you demand that Acheson give you and the proper Congressional committee the names and a complete report on all of those who were placed in the Department by Alger Hiss, and all of those still working in the State Department who were listed by your board as bad security risks because of the Communistic connections.

(2) That under no circumstances could a Congressional committee obtain any information or help from the Executive Department in exposing Communists.

Failure on your part will label the Democratic Party of being the bed-fellow of Inter-National Communism. Certainly this label is not deserved by the hundreds of thousand of loyal American Democrats throughout the nation, and by the sizable number of able loyal Democrats in both the Senate and the House.
Joe McCarthy U.S.S. Wis"

Truman's draft reply:

"My dear Senator:

I read your telegram of February eleventh from Reno, Nevada with a great deal of interest and this is the first time in my experience, and I was ten years in the Senate, that I ever heard of a Senator trying to discredit his own Government before the world. You know that isn't done by honest public officials. Your telegram is not only not true and an insolent approach to a situation that should have been worked out between man and man but it shows conclusively that you are not even fit to have a hand in the operation of the Government of the United States.

I am very sure that the people of Wisconsin are extremely sorry that they are represented by a person who has as little sense of responsibility as you have.

Sincerely yours, HST"

McCarthy and Truman telegrams.