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E-Mails Show Scientists Planning Push-Back Against 'McCarthyite' Attacks on Climate Science
NY Times ^ | March 5, 2010 | ALEX KAPLUN

Posted on 03/06/2010 6:57:11 PM PST by neverdem

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To: combat_boots
"Interns. Lots of them. Now, whaddaretheygonnado d’yaspose?"

Screw us.

21 posted on 03/06/2010 7:19:05 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223

“Nancy and Al can kiss my backside.”

Careful there, Nancy wouldn’t, but big Al might...

But you are right, I just am getting “science fatigue” and hating all the misdeeds and “oh! did we say that? We meant...”

I should not be getting on the scientists themselves as a class, but we have GOT to do something about the GD charlatans...


22 posted on 03/06/2010 7:19:09 PM PST by jessduntno (They'll get my false teeth when they pry them from my sister's cold, dead mouth!)
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To: neverdem

“McCarthyism”. A term coined by the communist left to smear those scrutinizing their subversive activities.


23 posted on 03/06/2010 7:22:16 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: combat_boots
scientists are considering launching advertising campaigns

What will be the source of the funds used support this advertising campaign? Oh right: us.

24 posted on 03/06/2010 7:23:46 PM PST by outofstyle (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: Lazamataz
"How about scientist do SCIENCE and not PROPAGANDA EFFORTS?????"

Ha ! Seriously ... the government doesn't fund climate scientists with grant money to do real science for very long if they don't get the results they paid for.

25 posted on 03/06/2010 7:24:06 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
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To: jessduntno
"But you are right, I just am getting “science fatigue” and hating all the misdeeds and “oh! did we say that? We meant...”

You have to look at the big picture. The solution to the horrors of climate change as they call it today is to surrender your liberty to the greater social good. These people are evil.

26 posted on 03/06/2010 7:26:16 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
U.S. scientists are planning to counter criticisms directed at them during the "Climategate" scandal and congressional debates
We need to see to it that their grants are cancelled and they find themselves in front of a tenure review panel. Since they're liars, and are themselves the brown shirts and demagogues about climate, they need to be broken on the wheel. Thanks neverdem.
27 posted on 03/06/2010 7:26:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: steelyourfaith

Thanks...speaking of taglines, yours put me in mind of the story about the geniuses who installed low wattage bulbs in all the traffic lights. They of course all froze over in the first severe cold because of the lack of warmth from the bulbs. Another glancing blow from the pushing of science and common sense by the useless “greens” that are determined to spend us into a banana republic status while not even thinking about the consequences...


28 posted on 03/06/2010 7:26:54 PM PST by jessduntno (They'll get my false teeth when they pry them from my sister's cold, dead mouth!)
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To: neverdem

When they play the McCarthy/racist/Nazi card (on any issue) as Ann C. points out your passion play with a Church of Global Warming member has reached the point where the argument has been distilled to:
“Well ... you’re dumb! And stupid!” then s/he sits back with a smile and happily chews his/her cud.
I’ve found the best response is to smile back and say, “I do find myself to be a fascinating topic, but let’s try and stick to the issues.”


29 posted on 03/06/2010 7:29:38 PM PST by tumblindice ( poisoning the well; a demo forte)
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To: neverdem

Maybe they’ll do it in the middle of a snowstorm, like AlGore’s speech that one time! LOL!


30 posted on 03/06/2010 7:30:39 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: tumblindice

LOL!


31 posted on 03/06/2010 7:31:51 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Talk about opposite


32 posted on 03/06/2010 7:34:14 PM PST by GeronL (I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: neverdem

“Most of our colleagues don’t seem to grasp that we’re not in a gentlepersons’ debate, we’re in a street fight against well-funded, merciless enemies who play by entirely different rules,” wrote Paul Ehrlich, a biologist at Stanford University.”

They actually had the gall to quote from Paul R. Ehrlich, butterfly scientist, science fraud, and hysteria monger of the previous generation.

(Please always include his middle initial ‘R.’, to distinguish him from one of the greatest scientists who ever lived, Dr. Paul Ehrlich (1854-1915))

I’m surprised that they didn’t quote from Trofim Lysenko, Stalin’s biologist, who had the real scientists who disputed his fantasy theories put into gulag prison camps.

In any event, the frauds and con artists behind AGW have made it clear that they will keep pushing for power and money, despite even damning evidence to the contrary. So the only alternative is to criminally prosecute them for misappropriation, perjury, violations of freedom of information laws, etc.


33 posted on 03/06/2010 7:35:31 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: neverdem
"The e-mails obtained by E&E show the scientists are considering launching advertising campaigns, widening their public presence, pushing the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) to take a more active role in explaining climate science and creating a nonprofit to serve as a voice for the scientific community. "

Now...correct me if I'm wrong here, but "science" is something that can be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt; otherwise it is speculation, theory, or conjecture.

"Global Warming" has disproven itself - even to the most uninterested layman - so many times it's boring just to hear the term.

Proof that these "scientific" methods have been falsified and exaggerated to arrive at the ultimate goals of every claim - taxation, carbon credit sales, and power grabs.

The ones who exposed the emails showing "claimate change" to be a big lie, now are trying to overcome the effect by claiming the "emails were stolen". Well, they weren't stolen, but even if they had been, that doesn't negate the lies they exposed.

Now, these same dedicated "scientists" think that invoking the charge of "McCarthyism" will somehow hit the reset button for them to get back their cushy jobs studying "global warming".

States and organizations everywhere are pulling away from their "connections" with global warmings and will probably not even admit that they even bought into the hoax.

The "warmers" are taking that "Alinsky" page about "stepping on the gas" when the going gets rough a little too seriously. Actually, it does no good to "step on the gas" when the car is a total wreck, upside down, in the ditch.

Too late, boys and girls...you need to dig out your "Handy Andy" chemistry sets from the attic and come up with a new "chicken little" crising to keep those government grants pouring in.

Your "uncle algore" decoder rings are telling you lies, put them BACK in the cereal box and toss it out.

34 posted on 03/06/2010 7:36:22 PM PST by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: neverdem
prevented a rational discussion about political solutions to human perturbations on the environment," wrote Paul Falkowski, a professor at Rutgers University's Institute of Marine and Coastal Sciences.

Professor Falkowski: Have you ever been in a Shakey's pizza parlor? They have a sign in there. It says, "Shakey made a deal with the bank. Shakey doesn't cash checks. The bank doesn't make pizza."

Why don't you make a deal with your Congressman? He won't do climate science, and you won't do politics. We'll all be better off. Especially you.


35 posted on 03/06/2010 7:36:30 PM PST by Nick Danger (Pin the fail on the donkey)
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To: neverdem

With the fake “Racist” anf failing “Extremist” accusations falling on les and less gullible ears, the Left has decided to fall back on their old accusation of ‘McCarthyism” lie defense attack routine as the Lefts “new” primary “Buzzword” weapon to attack their detractos, regardless of topic.

Please take note: Anyone using this word as a counter attack prop, is just a party line LIAR, and nothing they say can be belived as having any integrity.


36 posted on 03/06/2010 7:38:08 PM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: neverdem

The “Pushback” and the “Counterattack”, I believe, are traditional elements of the scientific method.


37 posted on 03/06/2010 7:40:40 PM PST by Onelifetogive (Flame away...)
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To: neverdem

World is upside down....


38 posted on 03/06/2010 7:41:06 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: steelyourfaith

“McCarthyism?” Warmists have been defending their ideas by attacking critics all along. This is just more of the same.

Somehow, the notion that scientists’ role is to discover truth never took root with them. They want to be policy-makers for the population, not just advocates for a scientific point of view. Not in a million years.

These warmists have lost the most important things they ever owned: honor, credibility, and our presumption of their truthfulness.


39 posted on 03/06/2010 7:41:24 PM PST by Tax Government (Conservatives are blue, Democrats are red. Take back our color.)
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To: neverdem
"I am hopeful that all the forces working for honest debate and quality assessments will decry this McCarthyite regression, and

"Honest debate" = "The science is settled. There can be no more debate."

40 posted on 03/06/2010 7:44:12 PM PST by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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