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Poll shows Paul, Mongiardo have strong leads (Rand Paul, KY Senate Race)
Kentucky.com ^ | March 7, 2010 | The Associated Press

Posted on 03/09/2010 5:58:10 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist

Poll shows Paul, Mongiardo have strong leads
The Associated Press

LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- Republican Rand Paul and Democrat Dan Mongiardo have strong leads in their U.S. Senate primary campaigns, according to a new statewide poll.

The Courier-Journal/WHAS-11 Bluegrass Poll found Paul, a Bowling Green doctor, leads Secretary of State Trey Grayson 42 percent to 27 percent in the GOP race. Mongiardo, the state's lieutenant governor, leads Attorney General Conway by a similar wide margin, 45 to 27 percent.

Undecided voters were at 19 percent in both polls.

The Republican poll had a margin of error of 4.7 percentage points and the Democrat poll's margin is 4.1 percentage points. It was based on phone interviews March 1-3 with 454 likely Republican voters and 590 likely Democratic voters. SurveyUSA used a recorded questionnaire in conducting the polls.

The remaining candidates polled at 5 percent or less.

The newspaper reported that the poll was conducted during a period when Kentucky Sen. Jim Bunning, a retiring Republican, was coming under heavy criticism from Democrats for blocking a bill that provided an extension to unemployment payments.

Paul's campaign manger, David Adams, said he has seen other polls with Paul in a strong lead.

"Rand Paul has earned a lot of credibility on the issues Kentuckians care about, like a balanced federal budget, term limits, strong national defense and following the U.S. Constitution," he said in a statement.

Grayson's campaign head said Grayson is more concerned with the final election results.

"Once Kentucky Republicans learn more about the radical views of Rand Paul ... they will have a different opinion," Nate Hodson said.

Meanwhile Mongiardo's campaign spokesman says they weren't surprised by the numbers.

"They confirm that Daniel Mongiardo is the candidate Kentucky families trust the most to fight for them in the Senate," Kim Geveden said.

Conway spokeswoman Allison Haley said they are focusing on a "long-term campaign strategy."

"We are confident (Conway) is the best candidate," she said.

Paul, the son of U.S. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, led in the demographic groups based on age, gender, education and income level, according to the poll. Mongiardo leads across gender and age groups and is particularly strong with older voters, according to the poll.

The remaining candidates in the Republican race were Bill Johnson, 5 percent; Gurley Martin, 3 percent; John Stephenson, 2 percent; Jon Scribner, 1 percent. The remaining Democrats were Darlene Price, 4 percent; James Buckmaster, 3 percent; Maurice Sweeney 2 percent.

Information from: The Courier-Journal, http://www.courier-journal.com


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; 911truth; adamkokesh; codepink; ky2010; palinpaul2010; randpaul; troll; trollzot; victorkilo; vikingkitties; zot; zuluoscsartango
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Why Rand Paul? "Because he’s a federalist, and he wants the states to have more say -- and as we respect the 10th Amendment in our Constitution, he wants the states to have more say in a lot of these issues." ~~ Sarah Palin
1 posted on 03/09/2010 5:58:11 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Christian_Capitalist

the $64 question we all need to know is, does Rand Paul agree with his dad on all of those Troofer issues? I agree with his dad about 90%, but the stakes are too high and we can’t afford to have any last-minute Troofer Bombs going off as they did in the Texas GOP primary.


2 posted on 03/09/2010 6:01:38 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
the $64 question we all need to know is, does Rand Paul agree with his dad on all of those Troofer issues? I agree with his dad about 90%, but the stakes are too high and we can’t afford to have any last-minute Troofer Bombs going off as they did in the Texas GOP primary.

(shrugs). Ron Paul himself doesn't agree with the "Troofers"; that's just a convenient smear against him. But, Ron Paul's detractors weren't able to sucker the people of his own district with their lies; Ron Paul won 81% of all Republican votes in his most recent primary.

And, it looks like their slanders are failing against Rand Paul, also.

Guess the endorsements of Sarah Palin, Steve Forbes, Dick Armey, Concerned Women for America, and Gun Owners of America tend to drown out the whining babble of the Paul-bashers. Rand Paul is winning this one in a walk.

3 posted on 03/09/2010 6:07:45 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Good to see Rand Paul doing well....

This has got to be a major disappointment to that RINO Liberal Mitch McConnell.....who ran off Jim Bunning....and now McConnell cant get his guy above 30% in the polls.

McConnell lacks spine and leadership anyway....it would be fitting for the spineless fossil to see his boy Greyson get whacked by Paul.

And I dont care if Paul is Truther like his father.....better a Truther than a Liberal. Some people need to get over this “Truther” stuff and stop using it to keep conservatives out.....you just let Liberals in....


4 posted on 03/09/2010 6:09:12 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (National Security begins at the Border)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

My understanding is Rand is more sane than his father.

I hope.


5 posted on 03/09/2010 6:09:51 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Rand Paul is a little more hawkish than Ron Paul on Military Tribunals for Terror suspects (Rand Paul supports) and the War in Afghanistan (Rand Paul also supports).

Those are the main areas of difference between Ron and Rand Paul; other than that, their politics tend to be pretty similar.

6 posted on 03/09/2010 6:11:41 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: rwfromkansas
Rand Paul is a little more hawkish than Ron Paul on Military Tribunals for Terror suspects (Rand Paul supports) and the War in Afghanistan (Rand Paul also supports).

Those are the main areas of difference between Ron and Rand Paul; other than that, their politics tend to be pretty similar.

7 posted on 03/09/2010 6:12:08 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Thanks for clearing up this “Truther” claim about the Paul’s.

I am really tired of those whining about “Truthers”. I dont buy that 9/11 Truther stuff.....but I am also tired of it being used by liberals who post on here who try to slam conservative candidates with it. Once someone is labeled a “Truther”.....it allows a more liberal candidate to win


8 posted on 03/09/2010 6:12:40 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (National Security begins at the Border)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

If I were a Kentuckian, I think I’d have to support either Bill Johnson (kentuckybill.com) or Rand Paul (randpaul2010.com). I like Johnson’s stance on immigration better (based on the websites of the two candidates).

Grayson appears to be a bit too much of an establishment candidate for my tastes.

It’s time for conservatives to remake the party in the primaries.


9 posted on 03/09/2010 6:13:43 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
This poll is nothing but BS media manipulation.

It was based on phone interviews March 1-3 with 454 likely Republican voters... SurveyUSA used a recorded questionnaire in conducting the polls.

"Likely voters" were random numbers at which whoever answered self-identified as such. They weren't "likely" in the sense that they have an actual record of voting in Republican primaries.

Rand Paul is still the darling of the liberal media, just like he has been since his announcement lovefest on Rachel Maddow's show.

10 posted on 03/09/2010 6:19:34 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The Republican Party is to conservatism what Twinkies are to nutrition.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Thanks for clearing up this “Truther” claim about the Paul’s. I am really tired of those whining about “Truthers”. I dont buy that 9/11 Truther stuff.....but I am also tired of it being used by liberals who post on here who try to slam conservative candidates with it. Once someone is labeled a “Truther”.....it allows a more liberal candidate to win.

Well, I can understand why a lot of folks held it against Debra Medina in Texas. I mean, what do you do with a candidate who's really 100% right on a lot of libertarian-conservative issues -- but who kinda isn't "all there" on separating fact from fiction, and thinks that it's possible that the US Government might have actually executed the 9/11 attacks? To me, that's going about two or three steps over the line into Loony territory past the sort of "people always have the right to question their government" attitude of Ron Paul.

Fortunately, Rand Paul doesn't share Medina's kookiness on the subject, and it doesn't appear that his detractors are succeeding in sliming him with it.

11 posted on 03/09/2010 6:19:59 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Christian_Capitalist
YouTube: Rand Paul & Adam "Code Pink" Kokesh

He's a fraud, just like his old man.

12 posted on 03/09/2010 6:21:18 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: EternalVigilance
This poll is nothing but BS media manipulation.

Survey USA is, historically, one of the most accurate polling companies around.

Rand Paul is crushing his opposition. But, I do wish Bill Johnson well in fighting his way up from 5% to hopefully come in second.

13 posted on 03/09/2010 6:22:09 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I'll stick with Sarah Palin's endorsed candidate: Dr. Rand Paul.

He's crushing his opposition. Hah, hah, hah.

"Yes! Yes! Oh let me taste your tears, Scott! Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mmm-yummy! Mmm-yummy."

14 posted on 03/09/2010 6:24:22 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: EternalVigilance

Another newly registered Paulbot with an oh-so-conservative sounding screen name.

I do believe we’ve seen this movie before.


15 posted on 03/09/2010 6:25:33 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

I don’t know what all that gibberish means, troll. But Sarah’s making herself look like a fool with her endorsements.


16 posted on 03/09/2010 6:26:55 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I don’t know what all that gibberish means, troll. But Sarah’s making herself look like a fool with her endorsements.

Heh. Paul-hatred is such an obsessive disorder, it causes self-proclaimed "conservatives" to even be willing to throw Governor Sarah Palin under the bus.

Sarah Palin. The best thing to happen to Conservatives in the last decade. Or more.

Sheesh. Paul-haters (who are morphing now into Sarah-haters) are nutz.

17 posted on 03/09/2010 6:30:05 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Christian_Capitalist

The same Palin who Jihad Ron was bashing a few short months ago is now a Paultard hero.

You couldn’t be more transparant if you tried, troll.


18 posted on 03/09/2010 6:32:28 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

apparently some on this thread aren’t afraid of going into November leading this race, only to have some video that makes Rand Paul sound like Jesse Ventura’s cable show suddenly appear and start getting 24x7 airplay a week before election day.

Winners have to be smart, and that means diffusing your own bombs ahead of time. For all I know Rand Paul is a wonderful Conservative candidate, but the question needs to be asked.


19 posted on 03/09/2010 6:35:20 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Ron Paul, Rand Paul and their Kool-Aid drinking supporters need to drop their support for the IVAW traitor Adam Kokesh.


20 posted on 03/09/2010 6:37:55 AM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
The same Palin who Jihad Ron was bashing a few short months ago is now a Paultard hero. You couldn’t be more transparant if you tried, troll.

There's been a bit of on-screen rivalry between Sarah and Ron, but it's largely a friendly one. Their political connections go back at least four years. I've loved Sarah Palin for years (big-time Alaskaphile); her alliance with Rand Paul only makes me all the happier.

21 posted on 03/09/2010 6:38:19 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: kristinn
I don't think that the Pauls will spend much time actually doing anything to support Kokesh. Rand's going to be busy winning his own Primary; hopefully scheduling some dates to go campaigning together with Sarah Palin. At least that's what a lot of us are hoping for Palin's upcoming Kentucky visit, anyway.

However, if Kokesh were to become the GOP candidate, I would vote for him over the Democrat. (If I lived in New Mexico, that is).

22 posted on 03/09/2010 6:42:38 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Buckeye McFrog
apparently some on this thread aren’t afraid of going into November leading this race, only to have some video that makes Rand Paul sound like Jesse Ventura’s cable show suddenly appear and start getting 24x7 airplay a week before election day. Winners have to be smart, and that means diffusing your own bombs ahead of time. For all I know Rand Paul is a wonderful Conservative candidate, but the question needs to be asked.

And has been asked -- and answered. Rand Paul doesn't believe in the "troofer" stuff; he simply believes that people do always have the right to question their government. (This is a true statement).

23 posted on 03/09/2010 6:44:38 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Of course it makes you happy. She’s being played for a fool by leftist infiltrators.

Are you a supporter of the Code Pink Truther Kokesh, too?


24 posted on 03/09/2010 6:50:30 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Of course it makes you happy. She’s being played for a fool by leftist infiltrators. Are you a supporter of the Code Pink Truther Kokesh, too?

Nope. Don't know much about him, or that district. I've seen enough to make me prefer Kokesh to the Democrat, that's true; but I don't know much about his GOP opponents, if any.

25 posted on 03/09/2010 6:52:29 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Don't know much about him

Well by all means, make sure you don't learn anything about the guy. That might make you something less than a perfect Paul sycophant.

26 posted on 03/09/2010 6:59:35 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Well by all means, make sure you don't learn anything about the guy. That might make you something less than a perfect Paul sycophant.

(Shrugs). The only guys I've heard of in that district -- not living in New Mexico, or following that race very closely -- are Kokesh and Lujan. So, if Kokesh even has GOP opponents, I guess they need to get their name recognition up in order to win.

Because right now, if I had to choose between Kokesh and Lujan -- well, I'd vote Kokesh over Lujan. And right now, those are the only two names I'm hearing about in that race.

27 posted on 03/09/2010 7:03:05 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Read up on Kokesh. He's a traitor who does not deserve support from anyone.

Here's a link to the patriotic American in the race: Mullins for Congress.

28 posted on 03/09/2010 7:17:53 AM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: SharpRightTurn
If I were a Kentuckian, I think I’d have to support either Bill Johnson (kentuckybill.com) or Rand Paul (randpaul2010.com). I like Johnson’s stance on immigration better (based on the websites of the two candidates).

I can see why a lot of folks on this Forum, like yourself, do support Bill Johnson; and while I support Rand Paul, I agree that I'd prefer to see a Paul-Johnson race with no Grayson in the mix. Let the two most-rightward candidates battle it out; either one of the two would make a strong ally for a President Palin.

29 posted on 03/09/2010 7:22:18 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: kristinn
Read up on Kokesh. He's a traitor who does not deserve support from anyone. Here's a link to the patriotic American in the race: Mullins for Congress.

Thank you for the Link!!

Interestingly, Mullins appears to be quite Anti-War himself. From his website: "We must leave Iraq to its own people, Sunni, Shia, and Kurd, to govern and secure. The sooner we can remove our troops the better.... Tom does not believe the United States should be the world's policeman. Nor should we attempt to occupy land and build an empire. Tom believes that we need to let other nations take the lead and focus upon our domestic security. "

If that's his view, and Kokesh is as kooky as you say, I don't see why Anti-War Republicans wouldn't just go ahead and vote for Mullins. He certainly seems like a fine candidate on other issues, domestic economics and so forth, as well.

So, like I said in another post, I guess that Mullins will need to get his name recognition up, in order to win. Thanks again for posting his website, for the information.

30 posted on 03/09/2010 7:27:53 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Christian_Capitalist

You’re welcome.


31 posted on 03/09/2010 7:30:45 AM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: kristinn
Honestly, from what I can see, I don't have any problem with the guy. But to be perfectly frank, I hadn't hardly heard of anyone in this race besides Kokesh. Even if it's just people shouting "TRAITOR KOKESH! TRAITOR KOKESH!!" in big fat red fonts -- nonetheless, he's the only GOP candidate I've been hearing about in this race, y'know?!

Mullins seems like a fine Republican candidate. I hope that his partisans will be pro-active in getting his name out there for voters to consider, yknow?

32 posted on 03/09/2010 7:37:05 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Christian_Capitalist; kristinn
I don't think that the Pauls will spend much time actually doing anything to support Kokesh.

They already have...and he has done much in return. So it doesn't disturb you at all that Rand Paul is an apparent truther and holds them as close allies (your denials to the contrary not with standing), aligns very closely (this is much more than a passing acquaintance as you are trying to spin) with Code Pinko Adam Kokesh - a man who has slandered conservatives as fascists, put up posters on a college campus that were racist and signed them as being from a conservative campus group to defame them, disprupted the GOP convention with his other Code Pink buddies, and many other outrageous behaviors and comments. Rand Paul, if he was a man of integrity and princple as you claim, would have told him to get lost at first sight. But no - he appears jointly with him and has him speak at his events. Rand Paul also hired a truther as his campaign spokesman and only dumped his as more of his extreme positions and views started getting reported - otherwise they were fine with it. Rand Paul personally refused to say that 9/11 was not an inside job, saying it was "complicated with truth on both sides." He has evolved rather quickly on issues to make himself out to be a conservative as you are spinning on national defense. He's now trying to claim he's a conservative on abortion...Right to Life wasn't convinced and endorsed Trey Grayson.

Do you have any real response to the points being made, or are you going to just keep hiding behind Sarah Palin's skirt and making childish remarks you apparently think are clever and witty? Your response to every post has been to dodge and keep saying "Sarah Palin! Sarah Palin!" and then some kiddie remarks. Need to "get over" the truthers? What they are peddling is just plain screwed up. If that doesn't bother you then you have some serious issues, because they are just as dangerous as liberals - they ARE liberals.

33 posted on 03/09/2010 7:49:36 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
Need to "get over" the truthers? What they are peddling is just plain screwed up. If that doesn't bother you then you have some serious issues, because they are just as dangerous as liberals - they ARE liberals.

When did I say anything about needing to "get over" the truthers? I think that you're thinking of another poster on this thread.

If you'll re-read my comments, you'll see that one of my big problems with Debra Medina was the very fact that, although I thought she was good in her principles on a number of issues, her indulgence of truther conspiracies made her seem "not all there" to me. Sorry, but I just don't get that same kookiness from Rand Paul.

34 posted on 03/09/2010 7:53:49 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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"Sorry, but I just don't get that same kookiness from Rand Paul."...

And yes, since you mention it -- apparently, neither does Governor Sarah Palin.

I figured you would want me to say that. I thought I might as well oblige.

35 posted on 03/09/2010 7:55:43 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Buckeye McFrog
the $64 question we all need to know is, does Rand Paul agree with his dad on all of those Troofer issues? I agree with his dad about 90%, but the stakes are too high and we can’t afford to have any last-minute Troofer Bombs going off as they did in the Texas GOP primary.

What the hell are you talking about? Ron Paul has rejected the truther view a thousand times. He has said repeatedly that Bin Laden, and Bin Laden only, planned the 911 attacks. Now...there are truthers who support Paul but there are birthers who support Palin, that doesn't make Paul a truther or Palin a birther.

36 posted on 03/09/2010 8:00:41 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Only a leftist or a Paul cultist could possibly support the vile truther/traitor Kokesh over anyone. You might as well be supporting Adam Gadahn for Congress. Same difference.


37 posted on 03/09/2010 9:24:09 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Only a leftist or a Paul cultist could possibly support the vile truther/traitor Kokesh over anyone. You might as well be supporting Adam Gadahn for Congress. Same difference.

I'd happily vote for Kokesh over the Democrat.

That said, kristinn's candidate Tom Mullins sounds like a fine choice for the GOP.

38 posted on 03/09/2010 11:27:18 AM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Captain Kirk
What the hell are you talking about? Ron Paul has rejected the truther view a thousand times. He has said repeatedly that Bin Laden, and Bin Laden only, planned the 911 attacks. Now...there are truthers who support Paul but there are birthers who support Palin, that doesn't make Paul a truther or Palin a birther.

I think that Palin isn't buying into the guilt-by-association smears against Rand Paul, because amongst other things her own husband, Todd, has been accused of being a "kook" due to his support for the secessionist Alaska Independent Party. She's accustomed to political operatives employing lies and smears against "her people".

And as for me, I don't think that Todd Palin is "kooky" at all; I just think that States' Rights federalism runs strong in the Palin household. And that it undergirds a lot of Sarah Palin's support for Rand Paul.

39 posted on 03/09/2010 2:42:18 PM PST by Christian_Capitalist
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To: EternalVigilance
So, is Johnson ever going to poll above low single digits in any independent poll, or any poll not released by his own campaign?

Because Johnson has been at 2%-5% in every single poll that wasn't originally released in a Johnson campaign press release.

He stands as much chance of winning the primary as I do.

40 posted on 03/09/2010 5:24:29 PM PST by speciallybland
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I don’t understand why people call Dr. Paul a truther, I’ve listened to the man for years, and never heard him make any such suggestions. What am I missing?


41 posted on 04/20/2010 8:28:19 PM PDT by libertyzeal
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Kokesh is anti-bailout and corporate welfare.
Kokesh is anti-obamacare.
Kokesh is pro-free market.
Kokesh is against unconstitional wars (only congress can declare war).
Kokesh is pro border security.

Sounds pretty conservative to me, what’s not to like?


42 posted on 04/20/2010 8:28:19 PM PDT by libertyzeal
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To: kristinn

Why is Kokesh a traitor, simply because he is anti-war?


43 posted on 04/20/2010 8:28:44 PM PDT by libertyzeal
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To: libertyzeal

Without clicking on anything, I’m going to take wild guess and say you’ve signed up sometime since the new year.

Kokesh is a truther, a Code Pink activist, and a fraud. Much like yourself.

Now kindly piss off, troll.


44 posted on 04/20/2010 8:38:49 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: libertyzeal
In your last post that I tossed into the dumpster, you said you would be sticking around.

News flash - you won't be. We don't want any antiwar Kokesh pimps here.

45 posted on 04/21/2010 7:34:39 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: libertyzeal; darkwing104; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; 50mm; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ...
Kokesh Kook ZOT!


46 posted on 04/21/2010 9:23:34 AM PDT by 50mm (Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power - Ben Franklin)
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To: libertyzeal

47 posted on 04/21/2010 9:31:33 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Arrogant, stupid and treasonous is no way to go through life, Barack.)
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To: 50mm
Pilin' on after the ZOT!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
48 posted on 04/21/2010 9:33:05 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: libertyzeal

Now run back to the DUmp and brag that you got kicked off FR.

49 posted on 04/21/2010 9:42:42 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2nd. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: libertyzeal

50 posted on 04/21/2010 9:47:31 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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