Ding! Ding! Ding Ding! We have a Winner! Always follow the Benjamins.
Posted on 03/11/2010 7:42:55 AM PST by jpl
Email messages obtained by the Competitive Enterprise Institute via a Freedom of Information Act request reveal that the climate dataset of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) was considered — by the top climate scientists within NASA itself — to be inferior to the data maintained by the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit (CRU).
The NASA scientists also felt that NASA GISS data was inferior to the National Climate Data Center Global Historical Climate Network (NCDC GHCN) database.
These emails, obtained by Christopher Horner, also show that the NASA GISS dataset was not independent of CRU data.
Further, all of this information regarding the accuracy and independence of NASA GISS data was directly communicated to a reporter from USA Today in August 2007.
The reporter never published it.
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There are only four climate datasets available. All global warming study, such as the reports from the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), must be based on these four.
They are: the NASA GISS dataset, the NCDC GHCN dataset, the CRU dataset, and the Japan Meteorological Agency dataset.
Following Climategate, when it became known that raw temperature data for CRU’s “HADCRU3″ climate dataset had been destroyed, Phil Jones, CRU’s former director, said the data loss was not important — because there were other independent climate datasets available.
But the emails reveal that at least three of the four datasets were not independent, that NASA GISS was not considered to be accurate, and that these quality issues were known to both top climate scientists and to the mainstream press.
In a response to reporter Doyle Rice of USA Today, Dr. Reto Ruedy — a senior scientist at NASA — recommended the following:
Continue using NCDC’s data for the U.S. means and Phil Jones’ [HADCRU3] data for the global means. …
We are basically a modeling group and were forced into rudimentary analysis of global observed data in the 70s and early 80s. …
Now we happily combine NCDC’s and Hadley Center data to … evaluate our model results.
This response was extended later the same day by Dr. James Hansen — the head of NASA GISS:
[For] example, we extrapolate station measurements as much as 1200 km. This allows us to include results for the full Arctic. In 2005 this turned out to be important, as the Arctic had a large positive temperature anomaly. We thus found 2005 to be the warmest year in the record, while the British did not and initially NOAA also did not. …
It should be noted that the different groups have cooperated in a very friendly way to try to understand different conclusions when they arise.
Two implications of these emails: The data to which Phil Jones referred to as “independent” was not — it was being “corrected” and reused among various climate science groups, and the independence of the results was no longer assured; and the NASA GISS data was of lower quality than Jones’ embattled CRU data.
The NCDC GHCN dataset mentioned in the Ruedy email has also been called into question by Joe D’Aleo and Anthony Watts. D’Aleo and Watts showed in a January 2010 report that changes in available measurement sites and the selection criteria involved in “homogenizing” the GHCN climate data raised serious questions about the usefulness of that dataset as well.
These three datasets — from NASA GISS, NCDC GHCN, and CRU — are the basis of essentially all climate study supporting anthropogenic global warming.
I become more convinced with each passing day that some highly-placed person within the climate research community had a conscience, just couldn't live with the fraud and deception any longer, and secretly compiled and released the whole set of e-mails so that the people would finally come to learn about the whole sordid mess.
Ding! Ding! Ding Ding! We have a Winner! Always follow the Benjamins.
Neat. What a great memory.
Neil also held records for the X-15. The X-15 set the world’s unoffical speed and altitude records of 4,520 mph and 354,200 feet. Most people do not remember that Neil was a Navy pilot with 78 combat missions in Korea.
Or better yet, “I have to how many millions and spend how many lifetimes in jail for stupidity? I did not even know being stupid was illegal! Would it help if I apologized to the millions of small children who have had nightmares and chronic emotional stress because of my stupidity?”
Yup. NASA at funding time would always say - there is water on the moon or Mars.
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More media malpractice?
Robert Goddard’s grave is awfully windy lately...
My Mom’s uncle used to work on Goddard’s farm, tending his horses in the 20’s and 30’s and 40’s, back that era. Our family on that side was friends with the Goddards, it got my granddfather into his rest home free in Worcestor. Great Philanthropist.
“These emails, obtained by Christopher Horner, also show that the NASA GISS dataset was not independent of CRU data. “
Ping of definite interest. So yes, there has been collusion on temperature data supposedly “separately maintained.”
These two repositories were HEAVILY relied upon among global warming scientists and both are not grossly suspect.
More like aiding and abetting.
"Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity."
- Eisenhower 1961
Actually, these guys have even disgraced the name of Werner von Braun. Von Braun may have been a Nazi, but I'm not aware that he ever faked his data.
PING!!
Eisenhower was wrong. The solitary inventor is still the engine for innovation. Corporate R&D spends a lot of money to bring the innovations of those inventors to final fruition, but small business is still the spark plug.
RICO....
If the stories are true, he did fake data. He played the Nazis off of the Abwehr, Hitler off of Himmler, the wehrmacht off the SS and anyone else he could to get funding.
There are also stories of him making things not work quite right hoping the war would end before they perfected the rocket.
Are these true? I don’t know, but, he did seem to not care too much for the Hitlerites.
He is, as far as I know, the only Nazi to have a Arena named after him. Huntsville Al. has one.
You are missing the point. Look at how much money is being wasted, and what a corrupting influence it is on so-called “climate science.”
More settled science.
/sarc
ping
Rush covered in his 2nd hour. Said if the Chicoms need to have their journalists educated, send them over here. We are specializing, especially at the Columbia School of Journalism.
“AlGore HAS to know all of this was fraudulent”
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Also:
Junk Science Bombshell: NASA & Media Knew About Bogus Climate Data 3 Years Ago
The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present -- and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.
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