Posted on 03/13/2010 3:07:52 PM PST by ruralvoter
Jene Newsome played by the rules as an Air Force sergeant: She never told anyone in the military she was a lesbian.
The 28-year-olds honorable discharge under the dont ask, dont tell policy came only after police officers in Rapid City, S.D., saw an Iowa marriage certificate in her home and told the nearby Ellsworth Air Force Base.
Newsome and the American Civil Liberties Union filed a complaint against the western South Dakota police department, claiming the officers violated her privacy when they informed the military about her sexual orientation. The case also highlights concerns over the ability of third parties to out service members, especially as the Pentagon has started reviewing the 1993 dont ask, dont tell law
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/03/13/lesbian-sgt-discharged-after-police-tell-military/#ixzz0i6Jf2KFL
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
I pinged an article not long ago that included part of an interview with a woman who (now this part I can’t remember) was still, or had been, in the Army. She described the female homosexuals as causing a great deal of trouble for the normal women. It’s a problem.
OK...I’m top bull.
Reading the article, the “more to the story” is that the police came looking to arrest her partner on theft charges, and she wasn’t willing to assist the officers in finding her partner.
My guess is that they saw the same sex marriage certificate proudly displayed in plain sight and notified the military base out of concern that she might sneak her partner onto the base and they would then have a lot more to deal with later if they didn’t let the base personal know exactly what was going on immediately.
On a general note, most people learn (or get to find out the hard way) that if you are married to a person with problems, you also marry that person’s problems, and they are now your problems too.
Don’t Ask Don’t Tell or allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly isn’t going to change the reality that the authorities have to be willing to drop the hammer to do what is necessary to arrest and take into custody those that break the law, and if it is someone who is married to a service member they have to be worried about what the service member will do to protect his or her partner.
Certainly the police would have to do what they thought was necessary to possibly prevent bad things from happening.
I think the police notified the base personal out of concern that if she was uncooperative with them in trying to locate her partner, then she might likely do what she felt was necessary to protect her partner, and that might include sneaking her partner onto the base to hide out (or maybe her partner was already on base, since they couldn’t find her and her partner wasn’t talking). And of course there is always the possibility of one or both of them maybe getting hold of some weapons to stand off against the police, etc...
If that’s the case, then I’d say the police did the right thing in this case.
The only reason I commented about Palin and the tv show was because this couple is now headed up to Alaska to face a judge for her spouse’s theft charges. Palin has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.
Except that there will be no open acceptance of homosexuals in the military. The joint chiefs will delay a decision for as long as possible, but, if they retain an ounce of sanity between them, they will not implement allowing homosexuals into the military. Unit cohesiveness and combat effectiveness will be destroyed.
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That may be the desire of the Joint Chiefs, but they are NOT the Commander-in-Chief. And while the JC’s goal is unit cohesiveness and combat effectiveness, the agenda of the current C-in-C is precisely the acceptance of hoomosexuals in the military and the culture-at-large (which plays to his base) AND the destruction of our military capabilities...
Yep, the news story intentionally left out the part where the poor Air Force female purposely interfered with a police investigation of her partner.... Causing the Police to go to her employer, the USAF, for assistance in finding a criminal she is married to.
Gays in Military = Sex in Barracks
The female enlistee we spoke with was recalling her 2009 experiences in Basic Training:
Woman: My experiences in BCT and AIT with homosexuals was and is awkward! Of course at first I didnt know who was lesbian and who wasnt, so I didnt think much of who I was showering with. Then, noticing that they were looking at me a little too much made things clear as to their preferences.
It was uncomfortable in so many ways. When your only choice is to shower in very close quarters with 60 other females, it is already embarrassing enough. Add that over half of them are lesbians, and you end up with very difficult feelings. It is like I was showering with 40 males staring at me and making comments. That isnt acceptable for males to do to females in the military, so it shouldnt be for females to do to each other!
Living with them and changing clothes near them made me self conscious and uncomfortable. The dont ask dont tell policy is practically void because everyone tells. You dont even have to ask. What made it worse was when males talked about our bodies things that the homosexual females had told them . having a female whistle at you is not appreciated!
Comment: If young men and women showered together, dressed together, etc. how much serious business could be accomplished? The answer is the same as to why single-sex schools generally produce better learning. When you are on sexual alert you spend energy avoiding or seeking sexual attention. The military is focused on smashing and killing enemies. Given the age of most soldiers, sexual interest is necessarily along for the ride, but getting trained and doing your job are both compromised by the easy availability of sex (e.g., STDs in WWI disabled almost as many as were wounded).
Dr. Cameron: How many of the women in your group have been discharged or processed for discharge because of homosexuality?
Woman: Well there were 60 females that I stayed in the same barracks with, and 60 more down the hall. Out of the total 120 females, I know that at least 50 were found to be homosexuals. Many more we werent sure about.
It really depended on what they did openly that determined their punishments. Some that actually got caught in sexual action were chaptered out of the army. A chapter 11 I believe. Others that were caught kissing or hand holding were given company grade article 15s which gave them 14 days extra duty. The ones that were chaptered ended up even more openly homosexual because they had nothing to lose at that point. The ones that had article 15s had two different outcomes. The ones that didnt want to be in [the armed forces] just continued to misbehave so they could get chapter packets. Others really wanted to be in the military so they kept their preferences to themselves. All in all, I would guess that about 20 got chaptered out and 30 had article 15s. The main problem was that the chapters had to remain in basic training until their packets went through and were approved. So some stayed in for all 12 weeks and caused trouble the entire time.
Comment: The rates of lesbianism implied by this enlistee are much higher than polls suggesting that about 8% of servicewomen engage in homosexuality. Perhaps this is an anomaly or an unusual unit or training discharges are not counted. Or perhaps this enlistee was speculating without knowing the hard numbers.
Dr. Cameron: Was there any instance or instances of officer (NCO) or otherwise having sex with one or more of these recruits?
Woman: No one in my company had sexual relations with their NCOs or chain of command. My whole battalion was really squared away. Im not sure about any of the others.
Dr. Cameron: Was there any hanky-panky between any of the recruits and officers?
Woman: No, there was no fraternization between privates and NCOs [non-commissioned officers] in my company but I heard rumors about it in another company. That wasnt homosexual, though. The private was given UCMJ action for her conduct and did not graduate. The drill sergeant did not accept her offers.
Dr. Cameron: Were you approached to participate in lesbian activities?
Woman: I was approached several times by lesbians who wanted me to participate in their nonsense. Of course, I immediately reported that back to my drill sergeant. I do think you need to know that the cadre at basic training did everything they could do to stop the homosexuals and they gave us frequent briefings on harassment and homosexuality and how it was not acceptable. My platoons drill sergeant was our companys EO and she was always doing all she could to help those of us that were being pressured.
Comment: Right and left lesbians were being warned, disciplined, and discharged. Yet they almost all persisted. Homosexual sex overwhelms rationality, overwhelms the desire to serve, and pushes aside a sense of propriety and scale...
Thank you.
Thanks for posting that. I stand corrected.
Another dyke loses her position in the shower. People with gender identity disorder should seek help or suppress their appetites for the perverse.
I can see fistfights occurring between the lesbos and the straight women....If I caught a lesbian looking at me,I’d let her know that I’m not down w/sexual deviancy.
Problem is when the sexual pervert is a superior. Then what? Sexual perverts do not beling in the military whatsoever.
I'm not exaggerating.
If she complied with the policy and served honorably there is no reason that the cops should have told the Air Force, and even less reason for the Air Force to discharge her.
Amen.In my grandfather’s day(he served in the Navy)the queers were thrown over the side of the ship.The queers and their advocates just can’t leave well enough alone,can they?
The problem is they’re taught that it’s OK to be a disease-spreader.
Gay women threaten and bully other women. That is definitely a problem for the straight women in the military, many of whom play critical roles in the current conflicts.
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