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War not conservative (Rep. John J. Duncan, R-Tenn.)
U.S. Rep. John J. Duncan, R-Tenn., 2nd District ^ | 2010-03-14

Posted on 03/13/2010 6:46:36 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: molybdenum
For every terrorist that is whacked, many more are of age, trained in jihad & ready to go, not to mention the madrassas. In many countries.

How much knowledge do you have of what the reality is in any of these countries and what our troops and the mission are really doing?

And what is your source?

Just curious.

41 posted on 03/16/2010 10:36:16 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Allegra
You must know about the madrassas, let alone the underlying death cult of these 7th Ce. madmen and their history of conquest--And it is obvious that our military leaders, whom the troops must obey, force them to fight under ROE that either gets them killed, wounded, or court-martialed. McChrystal, not to mention Gen Casey of Ft Hood infamy, have indicated that its more important to show compassion and respect than to kill terrorists. Soldiers are supposed to hold fire if a known terrorist is using civilians as a shield; civilians themselves may be concealing bombs in their garments or vehicles but soldiers are supposed to 'trust' them; our side has to be careful about searching women because this is agianst the muzzies' religion...Navy SEALs under courts-martial for giving a terrorist a fat lip--with the most unfriendly CIC in our history who even would like mil. trials moved to the World Court!!

If we had fought this way in WWII, we would be speaking Deutsch today. As for sources, many sites on the 'net and in reports on FOXnews thru the years, books by researchers of Islam, Col Hunt & others.<><>Col Chessani after about 3 yrs or more of trial was cleared of charges, yet STILL they will not let him go entirely, and he owes lawyers a fortune. They have destroyed the lives of some men who we hardly hear about in the news. And a Muslim is our president. God help us all.

42 posted on 03/17/2010 9:29:23 AM PDT by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: Allegra

Our soldiers are just that, they are not supposed to be used as social workers in a politically correct war. That is insanity.


43 posted on 03/17/2010 9:36:55 AM PDT by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: molybdenum
I'm not asking about the madrassas, I'm aksing where you get your information.

I have information about things that take place in these countries and I certainly don't need some anti-war poster to provide it to me.

You're arguing points I haven't even made.

I ask you where you get your information because I don't understand why any anti-war people would even want to be on this site. We support the War on Terror here.

There's this little faction here that stands with Code Pink and A.N.S.W.E.R., demanding that we bring all troops home.

I can't help but wonder where people are getting this desire to see our own country attached (again) and possibly destroyed. These people have got to be following some bizarre leader who promotes this sort of thing and perhaps encourages spamming sites with it.

Hmmmmm....is it David Letterman? Michael Moore? Ron Paul?

44 posted on 03/17/2010 9:42:30 AM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: rabscuttle385

Removing a huge wasp’s nest from the house has costs - but so does ignoring the wasps until they start stinging in earnest.

Defense is one of the few legitimate functions of the federal government. The cost of defense should be taken straight out of extra-constitutional functions, IMO.


45 posted on 03/17/2010 9:43:30 AM PDT by MortMan (Viscous rumors are thickening.)
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To: Allegra
"I can't help but wonder where people are getting this desire to see our own country attached (again) and possibly destroyed. These people have got to be following some bizarre leader who promotes this sort of thing and perhaps encourages spamming sites with it--" I hate Code Pink, Micahel Moore and all their ilk. Does everyone on this site have to march in lockstep (goosestep) with pro-war folks? Our Islamic (not supposed to say that oh dear) ENEMY laughs at us as we go heavily into debt each year fighting a hopeless war AND wasting trillions with social programs here at home. The "enemy"--is Islamofascism, yet our leaders refuse to say it. And the enemy here at home is protected by CAIR, catered to by our PC government.

Code Pink & the other loonies do not care about American soldiers killed, they are attention whores who never grew up and are the spawn of the '60s rabble.

And as posters have noted, it is NOT a conservative virtue or value to "spread democracy all over the world".

And there have been attacks here at home, getting worse each time, and officials hastily downplaying any involvement of the "religion of peace".

46 posted on 03/17/2010 10:05:24 AM PDT by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: molybdenum
I hate Code Pink, Micahel Moore and all their ilk. Does everyone on this site have to march in lockstep (goosestep) with pro-war folks?

Then why do you use Code Pink phrases like "pro-war?" I don't know anybody who is "pro-war." People with common sense know that, while a last resort, it is a necessary evil sometimes.

Of course Islam is our enemy and I despise CAIR and all of that PC cr@p.

That doesn't mean that I think we should just bring all of our troops home and wait to be attacked (again) on our own soil.

We have severely weakened al Qaeda and we did that in a place of our choosing. Now that we have a Communist in the White House, it's hard to say what will happen, but bringing all of our troops home is just insane.

And pretty much all of the troops I know agree.

And as posters have noted...

That doesn't fly as any kind of support with me. Not on a thread that is infested with Libertarians.

47 posted on 03/17/2010 10:17:09 AM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Allegra
"That doesn't mean that I think we should just bring all of our troops home and wait to be attacked (again) on our own soil." That's always the answer, that we will be hit with another 9-11 or worse. Well, apparently that means an indefinite stay in the ME & maybe extending into Iran.

Meanwhile, we will be attacked by smaller incidents, Ft Hood for example, and the ongoing defiance and hostility of CAIR--resulting in death by 1000 cuts. And there will have to be a withdrawal at some point, and long years of trials for the terrorists captured/imprisoned, costing millions more; will Congress be arguing over allocating less money for trials--or less money spent on veterans needs stemming from this WOT? That would be obscene.

I'm not a Libertarian. But I agree with the "infestors" on this thread.

48 posted on 03/17/2010 11:04:30 AM PDT by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: molybdenum
I'm not a Libertarian. But I agree with the "infestors" on this thread.

Of course you do. Jack Duncan, the subject of this thread who says "war is not conservative" is no conservative himself.

He's one of Ron Paul's acolytes. The Paul faction is not conservative. They are more aligned with the Democrats. Their cult members march with Code Pink and ANSWER. You will rarely, if ever, hear a Paul acolyte say anything negative about a Democrat, but they'll trash any and all Republicans all day long.

They run on the Republican ticket because they want to divide and conquer. They try to infiltrate the party with their bizarre agenda.

Thank goodness we were able to thwart Debra Medina's attempt to infiltrate. That woman wouldn't even concede; she wanted to force a runoff and cost the state of Texas more money. With these people, it is all about THEM, not about the country.

Those people, including Rep. Duncan, are not on our side. (By "our," I mean the majority of FReepers.) They'll support Obama over any Republican, unless it is one of their own.

If you want to reduce the influence of groups like CAIR and have a government that deals with these terrorists properly, then vote for true conservative candidates, not these DeceptiCons.

49 posted on 03/17/2010 11:18:54 AM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Allegra
I doubt Paulites would be so vocal or so plentiful if the Republican Party had not let us down thru the years. They too are anything but conservative. Duncan is still right about the war, and I never heard of him before this article, I can agree with him on that.

Trying to make other peoples and countries over in our image (spreading democracy)is not conservative. The Leftists screamed "No blood for oil!" at the Gulf War, Bush One sent troops to rescue Kuwait (OIL-rich country) whose "royal" leaders fled to Eygpt or Paris --but if we were not tied to OPEC we would not have interfered & driven off Saddam. (Don't call lme Kerry now LOL I was for that war before I wass against it!) OPEC is something we should have stayed away from many years ago. A conservative government uses its own resources; we had, and have, oil here but let the greenies run things and shut down drilling our own. If Bush II had persisted in ANWR, we could be using that fuel today.

50 posted on 03/17/2010 11:51:46 AM PDT by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: AmishDude

Well it’s the truth. The media lied [ as per usual ] concerning this topic.


51 posted on 03/17/2010 9:48:18 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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