Skip to comments.BREAKING: Healthcare Reform reconciliation bill is posted! 2300+ pages and includes student loan
Posted on 03/14/2010 7:48:42 PM PDT by conservativefunhouse
To provide for reconciliation pursuant to section 202 of the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2010.
2300+ pages and includes student loans. Happy reading...
(Excerpt) Read more at budget.house.gov ...
It is time we stop the injustice of excessive damage claims. They are another lottery jackpot where the recipient (winner) gets a free ride through life for an error from an imperfect system. There is nothing perfect in this world. Just ask Toyota.
In a phone interview with TAS Thursday afternoon, Ryan said that he expects Democrats to begin the complex process on Monday, under which they would have the Budget Committee approve a phantom bill by midnight, which they will then send over to the Rules Committee. At that point, the Rules Committee will strip out all of the language in the phantom bill, and insert the changes to the Senate bill that Democrats have negotiated. ....
He said he expected Democrats to dust off last year's health care bills from the Education and Labor and Ways and Means Committees, to use as the vehicle for reconciliation changes.
Thanks conservativefunhouse. G’night all.
Ping to you...
Maybe we will have to look at sooner than 2-3 years. Scary stuff :(
GOTTA SEE THIS
Thanks! This is the photo I was going to label the same a few nights ago. Looks nice, but oh, how sadly appropriate.
Rush is off, Mark Steyn is subbing.
Well, I'll be.
>> What happened, did I miss something?
Exactly. Is this a ploy?
If the public option is actually back, that could be a sign that they dont have the votes.
From what I am reading here - the public option is in. I don’t think they give a rat’s a** they will vote on it. This is infuriating.
It’s time to start praying for the destruction of this bill. At this point, only an act of God can stop these tyrants.
Speaking of behavior...
The B’tards can KMA!
It won’t make it back through the Senate like this...but they might just be dangling a carrot.
Student loan system: another take over of an American business. And why, exactly?
Saw an article this week by chancellor of NY schools that tuition paid to NY state colleges is being seized and turned over to the general ledger. She’s calling for an act to have tuition just go for tuition costs and NYS colleges’ expenses.
I wonder if the two thoughts are connected in reality.
Joe Wilson was telling the truth.
Perhaps it’s a “way out.”
A “we tried but those big meaniehead Republicans wouldn’t let us...” get-out-of-jail-free card.
And didn’t the Senate bill not have the public option, too? I’m so confused. Easter can’t come fast enough...I need a drink and chocolate.
I guess they figure they have the votes to pass this monstrosity, and that is why they are posting it. If we understand their contempt for people, posting this now makes sense.
(3) BEHAVIORAL CHANGE COMPONENT.A behavioral change component which provides for alter ing employee lifestyles to encourage healthy living through counseling, seminars, on-line programs, or self-help materials which provide technical assistance
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1 and problem solving skills. such component may in clude programs relating to
3 (A) tobacco use;
4 (B) obesity;
5 (C) stress management;
6 (D) physical fitness;
7 (E) nutrition;
8 (F) substance abuse;
9 (G) depression; and
10 (H) mental health promotion (including
The list, ping
Relevant, as preview of Obamacare (in UK):
Betrayal of 20,000 cancer patients: Rationing body rejects ten drugs that could have extended lives
“Up to 20,000 people have died needlessly early after being denied cancer drugs on the NHS, it was revealed yesterday.
The rationing body NICE has failed to keep a promise to make more life-extending drugs available. “
A little preview of the student loan component
I second that prayer!
I dedicate the following movies to the Rats in Congress.
Kill Bill, Hang em High, Death at Dawn
We need your list of Representatives with telephone numbers on this thread Gail.
You seem to think that some of the people will vote against the bill because they have read some things in it they don’t like. Only wish this was true but during my call to several offices to question the bill I did ask if anyone there had read the bill and was told they “hadn’t had time yet but do intend to”.
Oh, it’s only over 2,300 pages.
Just had a big fight in Texas among the board that determines what is put into the history textbooks. One dem threw up her hands and stormed out. The conservatives won.
If they could manage it, our books in Texas would be half Mexican history, lol.
(b) RESPONSIBILITIES.The Assistant Secretary shall
(1) ensure the collection, collation, reporting, and publishing of information (including full and complete statistics) on key health indicators regard-
2028 1 ing the Nations health and the performance of the
2 Nations health care; 3 (2) facilitate and coordinate the collection, col- 4 lation, reporting, and publishing of information re- 5 garding the Nations health and the performance of 6 the Nations health care (other than information de- 7 scribed in paragraph (1)); 8 (3)(A) develop standards for the collection of 9 data regarding the Nations health and the perform-
10 ance of the Nations health care; and
11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
(B) in carrying out subparagraph (A) (i) ensure appropriate specificity and standardization for data collection at the na-
tional, regional, State, and local levels; (ii) include standards, as appropriate, for the collection of accurate data on health and health care by race, ethnicity, primary lan- guage, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, socioeconomic status, rural, urban, or other geographic setting, and any other popu- lation or subpopulation determined appropriate
by the Secretary; (iii) ensure, with respect to data on race
and ethnicity, consistency with the 1997 Office of Management and Budget Standards for
2029 1 Maintaining, Collecting and Presenting Federal
2 Data on Race and Ethnicity (or any successor 3 standards); and 4 (iv) in consultation with the Director of 5 the Office of Minority Health, and the Director 6 of the Office of Civil Rights, of the Department, 7 develop standards for the collection of data on 8 health and health care with respect to data on 9 primary language;
10 (4) provide support to Federal departments 11 and agencies whose programs have a significant im- 12 pact upon health (as determined by the Secretary) 13 for the collection and collation of information de- 14 scribed in paragraphs (1) and (2);
15 (5) ensure the sharing of information de- 16 scribed in paragraphs (1) and (2) among the agen- 17 cies of the Department; 18 (6) facilitate the sharing of information de- 19 scribed in paragraphs (1) and (2) by Federal depart- 20 ments and agencies whose programs have a signifi- 21 cant impact upon health (as determined by the Sec- 22 retary);
Nothing from this corrupt and evil bunch would surprise me anymore, ExTexasRedhead.
And most Americans would still be oblivious, spending their time watching American Idol, Biggest Loser, whatever... unaware what's coming down the pike towards them. Unbelievable.
Democratic leaders say health bill will pass
The Democrats’ strategy calls for the House to pass the Senate version of reform, followed by consideration of a package of fixes to that legislation known as a reconciliation bill. The fixes must meet specific budget requirements allowing it to be approved in the Senate with a simple majority vote.
The full House is expected to vote on both measures by week’s end, with the climactic moment coming as soon as Thursday but, more likely, Friday or Saturday, aides said.
It may take the military to expose and toss out these radical Commie crooks and arrest them
“Easter cant come fast enough...I need a drink and chocolate.”
You’re going to wait till Easter? Why? I think we’ll all need that drink well before then. :)
I believe it. The men might be willing but their leaders might not!
Obama dissing the Supreme Court may be a help if some decisions come up. Amazed Ginsberg is still hanging in there. Maybe she doesn't trust Obama either.
I missed the Republicans on national TV telling the American people that their Constitution has just been burned and thrown out in the garbage.
Actually, I think Obama will eventually dismantle the Supreme Court — in fact, our entire judicial system. And once he is installed as president for life, he can do away with congress too.
I gave up way too much for Lent this year. ;)
LOL!! I wonder how many got that Lent remark. I agree!
‘I guess they figure they have the votes to pass this monstrosity, and that is why they are posting it. If we understand their contempt for people, posting this now makes sense.’
Are illegals covered? If not, maybe the Hispanic caucus wont support it and nancy wont have the votes?
Dial up people should not click the link. Wait for analysis. FYI
“BEHAVIORAL CHANGE COMPONENT.- A behavioral change component which provides for alter ing employee lifestyles “
That’s why the Dems are pushing this — it will put a leash on all of us, with the government holding the other end of it, having full control of our lives. There will be NO individual freedom at all, to allow even personal decisions.
They will hand out our “healthy” food rations, and plan our day, when and how much to exercise, meditate, etc.
And for those who are going to chime in about how it is good for us, remember it’s NOT the government’s job to run our lives. But now of course since the government will be paying for our healthcare, they claim that will give them the right to tell individuals, how to live our lives — of course another thing that is being ignored is that the government has no money of their own, what they have is what they take away from us.
So now we all have to pay higher taxes, so the government can tell us what to eat, what to do, etc.
Mark Steyn had a great article:
WHY’S HE DOING IT?
“Because government health care is not about health care, it’s about government.
Once you look at it that way, what the Dems are doing makes perfect sense. For them. “
"There are four ways in which you can spend money. You can spend your own money on yourself. When you do that, why then you really watch out what youre doing, and you try to get the most for your money. Then you can spend your own money on somebody else. For example, I buy a birthday present for someone. Well, then Im not so careful about the content of the present, but Im very careful about the cost. Then, I can spend somebody elses money on myself. And if I spend somebody elses money on myself, then Im sure going to have a good lunch! Finally, I can spend somebody elses money on somebody else. And if I spend somebody elses money on somebody else, Im not concerned about how much it is, and Im not concerned about what I get. And thats government. And thats close to 40% of our national income."
---Milton Friedman, "Free To Choose"
Readers Digest Version for liberal bloggers and White House and Congressional radical Socialists who claim Conservatives and Libertarians don't have a plan. We have one, you just don't like the idea that you wouldn't control it.
1. Repeal the tax exemption for employer provided medical care.
2. Terminate Medicare and Medicaid
3. Provide every American citizen with catastrophic insurance. Major medical with a high deductible.
4. Increase the use of tax free Medical Savings Accounts.
5. Deregulate insurance so that consumers can shop for a la carte coverage across State lines.*
*The plan above was the work of Milton Friedman, a Nobel Prize in Economics winner. I know what you are thinking...he won a Nobel prize, so did algore, Barack Fitzgerald Obama, Paul "I plagiarized Keynes" Krugman, Yasser Arafat and Jimmy Carter. It means nothing.
The following is the editorial opinion of a jackass with a modem like me with a BA in Economics (that and 50 cents will buy me a NY Post). I'm not fit to shine Milton Friedmans' shoes but I just added this addendum and footnote to his ideas since he is "dead" physically. Although he is very much alive since he influenced so many people like me...
1. Employer provided healthcare is an unintended consequence of the WW2 era wage and price controls imposed by libs like FDR. You couldn't offer a talented person a higher salary so they offered healthcare coverage. It's a dinosaur.
2. I may be a libertarian free market disciple but I'm not blind to political realities. I realize that any public serpent who suggests doing away with Medicare in a town hall meeting would be sodomized by a cane and be clobbered in the head by a walker. Even Milton Friedman advocated that it be grandfathered for existing beneficiaries. If nothing is done, it will be broke anyway.
3. We would never have to hear..."people are going bankrupt because they don't have health insurance."
4. The only good idea to come out of Congress in years.
5. Why should a single healthy 24 year old man have to pay for coverage that includes OB/GYN and mammograms?
If this has public option it's a new bill which the Senate would have to vote on without reconciliation. This stuff is starting to make what's left of my hair hurt.
KMake no judgments about them having the votes. I think there is a need to have this posted today to meet the arbitrary deadline set by Der Fuhrer. It might be that it has to be posted before the CBO will score it, or some such thing. Arms will continue to be twisted.
Of course, MSM will say they have the votes and point to this document on the web as being proof. But I would not bet they have the votes right now.
The dog that didn’t bark.
Anyone who votes for this is voting for the death of this nation and should die in a horrible fire.
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