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Soda: A Sin We Sip Instead of Smoke? (are Coke & Pepsi the new tobacco?)
The New York Times ^ | Feb 16, 2010 | Mark Bittman

Posted on 03/17/2010 12:32:18 PM PDT by presidio9

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

61 posted on 03/17/2010 1:30:41 PM PDT by Hillbillary (I know how to deal with Communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: presidio9
What if Coke & Pepsi were on that list? Is it your business what adults chose to do to their bodies? Would Jefferson and Hamilton have agreed with you? Should we outlaw motorcycles and crab fishing?

HAHAHA! Oh, that's rich coming from one FR's vocal supporters of the War on Drugs.

62 posted on 03/17/2010 1:31:35 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Or will this merely result in diet soda replacing conventional soda, since Splenda and aspertame both exist and are already sold in volume?
Or maybe one gets a black market of product labeled “diet” that actually has sugar in it.


63 posted on 03/17/2010 1:35:01 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: Mase
A "bought and paid for" researcher will never find what his/her paycheck prefers they not.
64 posted on 03/17/2010 1:37:59 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: supremedoctrine

I agree that soda isn’t health food. You’ve never been a fan, so your arguments against it are irrelevant to this thread. However, since you brought it up, the fact that it can be used for household purposes outside the body is, at best neutral. So can thousands of other food products like lemons, vinegar, and vodka. When it enters our mouths, amalase in the syliva breaks down the sugars, as do small quantities of acids. I once had a HS science teacher who left a human tooth in a bottle of soda for effect. Of course that’s not what happens in real life. The citric acid in soft drinks (the same found in lemons) is nowhere near as strong as the hydrocholoric acid in the stomach, which has a ph of 0. If you know anything about acid, you know that the solution becomes weaker when you add, more of a higher ph. The “soda rots your stomach” thing is an old wives tale, probably made popular by people who already had ulcers.


65 posted on 03/17/2010 1:38:51 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

No Coke....PEPSI!

http://www.hulu.com/watch/3533/saturday-night-live-the-olympia-restaurant


66 posted on 03/17/2010 1:40:49 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: clintonh8r
I don’t advocate a tax on soda by any means, but I don’t think it’s healthy to ingest a lot of this stuff. I used to drink 2-3 Diet Cokes a day but stopped about 10 years ago. Now I don’t drink any non-naturally carbonated drinks and I don’t add sugar or salt to any of my food, and haven’t for a long time. Still, I think people should be free to eat and drink whatever they want without meddling by the government, and certainly without any taxes.

Um, I don't care what you think or do. But thanks for the update all the same. The point is that what I think or do (or drink) isn't supposed to be anybody's business but mine.

67 posted on 03/17/2010 1:41:40 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

“The industry says there are critical differences: in moderate quantities soda isn’t harmful, nor is it addictive.”

Is that actually completely true? Caffiene is contained in many sodas (in the US - in Canada it is restricted by law to Colas) and caffiene is generally considered to be a mildy addictive and habit forming substance, is it not? I mean, there’s a good reason that so many people are a mess without their morning (non-decaffinated) coffee, right?


68 posted on 03/17/2010 1:42:05 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: presidio9
lol

soft drinks are nothing more than sugared water with a drop of flavoring and/or coloring added, not exactly what I would call a toxic concoction.

You can make your own with a glass of water, a little sugar, a drop or two of vanilla = Cream Soda.

69 posted on 03/17/2010 1:42:16 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: absolootezer0
oh good, glad i'm not the only one. every gf i've ever had has accused me of being anorexic, and its hard to explain, i can eat a ton or nothing, and not change weight. Or that i don't intentionally starve myself, i just forget to eat.

If you've never had your thyroid checked, you probably should make an apointment to do so. Like today.

70 posted on 03/17/2010 1:43:28 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: BipolarBob

You forgot salt.

Demolition Man coming to life.


71 posted on 03/17/2010 1:45:12 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: norraad
Yeah, right.

Your feelings, based on nothing, vs. the research and peer review of some of the nation's top scientists and other experts in the field. I just don't know whom to trust....LOL!

You've never been able to explain how glucose and fructose from HFCS is different from glucose and fructose from hydrolyzed sucrose. Can you do it now?

72 posted on 03/17/2010 1:50:25 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: presidio9

doc has checked it a couple times, says its normal.


73 posted on 03/17/2010 1:50:53 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The Rats' anti-tobacco jihad started ONLY when campaign contributions from "Big Tobacco" began to go less than 100% to the Democrats and a small percentage actually began going to Republicans. Only THEN did tobacco become evil in the eyes of the DemoNazis.

Anybody checked where the money from Coke & PepsiCo have been going lately? Maybe they are starting to send a few bucks towards Republican candidates, therefore the Nazis are retaliating with taxes.

74 posted on 03/17/2010 1:51:10 PM PDT by PermaRag (the stock market will stop bleeding when those who manipulate it START bleeding)
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To: norraad

The article doesn’t make a distinction between sugar (sucrose) and HFCS. HFCS is the problem, not the sugar, and I’d like to see sugar back in soda, and HFCS out.

From what I understand, you’re right about the enzymes. Apparently enzymes are released by the body to break down the sucrose into fructose and glucose. The enzymes aren’t a part of the conversion of HFCS.


75 posted on 03/17/2010 1:53:38 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom

Plus, HFCS is not even cheaper if you take away all our tax money going to support it.


76 posted on 03/17/2010 1:56:51 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: WackySam

Sucrose is broken down by certain enzymes, HFCS isn’t. The actions of the enzymes is what matters in this case.


77 posted on 03/17/2010 1:58:04 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: norraad

That’s the part that bugs me, we’re paying for something that’s crap and makes us sick.


78 posted on 03/17/2010 1:58:46 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: presidio9
The problem is that at roughly 50 gallons per person per year, our consumption of soda, not to mention other sugar-sweetened beverages, is far from moderate

Oooooo! 50 gallons a year! That sounds like a lot! Until you multiply 50 gallons by 128 ounces/gallon and get 6400 ounces. Divided by 365 days gives you 17.5 ounces per day. A can and a half or less than one 20-ounce bottle a day sounds a lot more "moderate" to me.

They should have made it really scary: 8.35 pounds in a gallon (of water, but close enough). 75 years average life expectancy. 31,312.5 pounds. Oh my gosh! The average person drinks over 15 and 1/2 TONS of cola in their lifetime. We need to tax it!

79 posted on 03/17/2010 2:01:25 PM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: tbw2
Or maybe one gets a black market of product labeled “diet” that actually has sugar in it.

Or maybe, if we are really, really lucky, sucrose (C12H22O11) will be classified by the DEA as a Schedule 1 controlled substance so they can kick your door in and shoot your dogs in the middle of the night if some diabetic drug addict at the jail claims he bought some from you!

80 posted on 03/17/2010 2:02:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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