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Mark Levin: Landmark Legal Foundation to File Suit ... if ‘Slaughter Rule’ is Used
Mark Levin Fan ^ | March 17, 2010 | Mark R. Levin

Posted on 03/17/2010 1:41:38 PM PDT by Sergeant Tim

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To: Sergeant Tim

He should be our AG. Mark rocks!


41 posted on 03/17/2010 4:20:02 PM PDT by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: Sergeant Tim

That’s nice. But this is all kind of academic. If this bill passes, then some day, maybe, the courts will do something. But I won’t hold my breath.

The problem is a few months ago congress was bailing out the banking industry to the tune of $1 trillion. Then it was bailing out the auto industry. This week it’s socialized medicine. Next week it’ll be cap and tax. This an addiction to power and spending fueled by ever increasing debt. The demand isn’t going to abate until there is simply no more money to be spent.

Demand based solutions aren’t going to work. No junkie comes clean unless he/she has to. We need to start looking at supply side solutions. We need to cut the supply of money. The irony here is that conservatives are enabling the socialism.

Own savings bonds? T-bills? GNMAs? Are they the underlying investment in your money market account or 401(k)? If the answer is yes, then you’re subsidizing this just as surely as if you had scratched a check.

But what about the national debt itself? The ability to fund all this is tied to the ability to borrow. What if conservatives simply pushed for a polcy of repudiating the national debt, or more specifically that portion entered into since January 2009?

Therein lies a game changer strategy.


42 posted on 03/17/2010 4:38:01 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Those criminals in charge in DC are hoping for a different outcome from Americans. They have once again miscalculated how we will handle this and them.


43 posted on 03/17/2010 4:43:17 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: OldPossum
impeachment? ... the House and Senate are both controlled by Democrats? If this changes in November, then bring up the matter. Until then, it's a silly thing to say

It takes 67 Senators to convict in am impeachment. Right now there are 41 Republicans. Graham, Snowe, Collins and Hatch will never support it. So the Republicans start with 37 possible votes to convict, and need to pick up 30 Senate seats in November, to possibly remove Obama from office.

Given that the Democrats have only 18 seats on the ballot this year, +30 just ain't happening.

44 posted on 03/17/2010 4:48:20 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Sergeant Tim

Why are they not going to file if ObamaCare itself is passed into law....you know, how does the Federal government have the Constitutional right to force, via fines, on everyone in the US?

Levin response and threat of Constitutional challenge on this is where?


45 posted on 03/17/2010 4:53:55 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Sergeant Tim

Okay, so let’s say you’re a Democrat in the House of Representatives, and you do not want to vote yes on the Senate version of the Health Care Bill. You know there is no hope of fooling people into thinking that you didn’t really vote for it by claiming you only voted for a rule that automatically passed it. You don’t even like the bill because its substance is a 100% Senate product without the slightest bit of compromise toward the body you serve in, the House. (-No fat, juicy earmarks or sweetheart deals for your district!) Finally, based on the polling data as well as the outspoken feedback from numerous constituents; you know it will be next to impossible to get reelected if you vote for this costly monstrosity. So, no, you really don’t want to vote for it.

But here’s your problem: if you say you’re voting no, Pelosi promises to make your life a living hell so long as you shall serve in the House. She’ll revoke all your committee assignments & fancy titles; choke off DNC funds that would flow to your reelection campaign; have you shunned from the best D.C. social events and outings; etc; etc. Obama calls you up and says, “Hey, if you vote for the bill you might not get reelected, BUT you’ll be a hero and we’ll see to it you get a posh job – maybe even an ambassadorship. If you vote against the bill, you MIGHT get reelected, but your life as a congressional representative will suck. You’ll be persona non grata magna cum laude. You won’t want to be here anymore because no one will want you here anymore. But now consider: If you vote for the bill and you manage to get reelected, not only will you be a hero, but life in the House will be quite good for you.”

What do you do? If you vote for the bill, you likely lose your seat in the House. If you vote against the bill, your seat may not be worth sitting in. Here is what you do. You find as many fellow wavering Democrats as you can and secretly promise each other to remain utterly uncommitted prior to a floor vote. You will not say you will vote for the bill, and you will not say you will vote against it. Instead you say you are paying close attention to the feedback of your constituency. If that Coalition of the Non-Committal puts Pelosi fifteen or more votes shy of the 216 she needs, there is no way she can call the bill to the floor for a vote. She can’t risk losing by that large a margin. If she were to miss by just two or three votes, that defeat would be devastating enough; but she’d have to risk it because so much is at stake. But if she we were to miss by ten votes, twenty? That would be total humiliation. And not just for her, but for Obama too. Being exposed as that abjectly incompetent is unbearable and unacceptable.

So, by refusing to announce in advance that you’re inclined to vote against the bill, Pelosi can’t single you out as one of the votes that will kill the bill – since you might well still vote for it and she can’t afford to alienate your vote. And yet if there are enough pure mystery votes like you, she can’t call the bill to the House floor because she might end up looking like a fool if it happens she can’t even muster 200 votes. Since the bill is never voted on, you never failed to vote for it nor claimed that you would fail to do so. Thereby you avoid being vindictively singled out by vicious speaker Pelosi. And at the same time you have spared yourself from voting for a bill that would incur the wrath of the voters in your district.

Hopefully, wavering Democrats who are desperate to keep their seats will be smart enough to promise each other to simply refuse to declare which way they will vote until the very moment of actually casting their votes – which resultantly will never come. If that is the case, the bill is already doomed. If not, then Pelosi might be able to pressure and outright threaten her way to the magic 216 she needs.


46 posted on 03/17/2010 4:57:42 PM PDT by Presto (Liberalsim is nonsense on stilts.)
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To: Sergeant Tim
How about Arrest warrants for the "BRIBER'S" and the"Bribee's Dennis Kusinich get a ride home in AF-1 Water flows to the California Central Valley ,Judges appointed.

obummer, Reid and fula-pelosi need to go to jail, sorry let Rush make money send them to Gitmo
47 posted on 03/17/2010 4:58:58 PM PDT by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: Sergeant Tim; holdonnow

Good for you Mark...

Thanks for looking out for America...

:)


48 posted on 03/17/2010 5:02:51 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Cboldt
The constitution gives both houses the right to make the rules by which they operate. However, it also requires them to vote on the same piece of legislation, comma for comma, period for period, semicolon for semicolon, and to record the votes of each member in the official record. The Supreme Court has already decided this. So, however they get to the final piece of legislation is their business. But each house must vote on the final version of a bill, one bill at a time, and the bill the House votes on must EXACTLY match the bill the Senate votes on. That will not be the case in the bills at hand.

Article I Section 5 ... Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings....

Article I Section 7 Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President ... But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively....

49 posted on 03/17/2010 5:11:30 PM PDT by StonyMan451
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To: PORD

MY friend...there is a place on the Landmark page to donate and I encourage you to send what you can. I guess he needs that $100.00 more than OBammy.

Mark won’t waste your money!

John


50 posted on 03/17/2010 5:13:06 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (REGISTERED RIGHT WING THUG!)
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To: Sergeant Tim
Mark Levin: Landmark Legal Foundation to File Suit ... if ‘Slaughter Rule’ is Used

Mark Levin rocks!
Dontcha love the smell of napalm in the mornings?
This is like the second American revolution, the one to take our country back from the discatorial, communist, red menace.

51 posted on 03/17/2010 6:22:50 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Sergeant Tim

The only persons I can think of who might have standing to sue would be a sitting House or Senate member. Certainly that would seem to be true of a suit filed before the President signed it. But if seems to me that after the President signs it the issue might become moot...so the question is who is the Plaintiff?

I’m pretty sure it’s not Mark Levin...


52 posted on 03/17/2010 6:23:13 PM PDT by Grn_Lantern (Let's go to work....)
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To: holdonnow

You are a patriot,sir! A great American.

Thank you for doing this. It MUST be done.

The consent of the governed is being ignored, and the oath of office taken by these Congressional leaders has been abrogated.


53 posted on 03/17/2010 6:28:04 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Presto

Okay, so let’s say you’re a Democrat in the House of Representatives, and you do not want to vote yes on the Senate version of the Health Care Bill. You know there is no hope of fooling people into thinking that you didn’t really vote for it by claiming you only voted for a rule that automatically passed it. You don’t even like the bill because its substance is a 100% Senate product without the slightest bit of compromise toward the body you serve in, the House. (-No fat, juicy earmarks or sweetheart deals for your district!) Finally, based on the polling data as well as the outspoken feedback from numerous constituents; you know it will be next to impossible to get reelected if you vote for this costly monstrosity. So, no, you really don’t want to vote for it.

But here’s your problem: if you say you’re voting no, Pelosi promises to make your life a living hell so long as you shall serve in the House. She’ll revoke all your committee assignments & fancy titles; choke off DNC funds that would flow to your reelection campaign; have you shunned from the best D.C. social events and outings; etc; etc. Obama calls you up and says, “Hey, if you vote for the bill you might not get reelected, BUT you’ll be a hero and we’ll see to it you get a posh job – maybe even an ambassadorship. If you vote against the bill, you MIGHT get reelected, but your life as a congressional representative will suck. You’ll be persona non grata magna cum laude. You won’t want to be here anymore because no one will want you here anymore. But now consider: If you vote for the bill and you manage to get reelected, not only will you be a hero, but life in the House will be quite good for you.”

What do you do? If you vote for the bill, you likely lose your seat in the House. If you vote against the bill, your seat may not be worth sitting in. Here is what you do. You find as many fellow wavering Democrats as you can and secretly promise each other to remain utterly uncommitted prior to a floor vote. You will not say you will vote for the bill, and you will not say you will vote against it. Instead you say you are paying close attention to the feedback of your constituency. If that Coalition of the Non-Committal puts Pelosi fifteen or more votes shy of the 216 she needs, there is no way she can call the bill to the floor for a vote. She can’t risk losing by that large a margin. If she were to miss by just two or three votes, that defeat would be devastating enough; but she’d have to risk it because so much is at stake. But if she we were to miss by ten votes, twenty? That would be total humiliation. And not just for her, but for Obama too. Being exposed as that abjectly incompetent is unbearable and unacceptable.

So, by refusing to announce in advance that you’re inclined to vote against the bill, Pelosi can’t single you out as one of the votes that will kill the bill – since you might well still vote for it and she can’t afford to alienate your vote. And yet if there are enough pure mystery votes like you, she can’t call the bill to the House floor because she might end up looking like a fool if it happens she can’t even muster 200 votes. Since the bill is never voted on, you never failed to vote for it nor claimed that you would fail to do so. Thereby you avoid being vindictively singled out by vicious speaker Pelosi. And at the same time you have spared yourself from voting for a bill that would incur the wrath of the voters in your district.

Hopefully, wavering Democrats who are desperate to keep their seats will be smart enough to promise each other to simply refuse to declare which way they will vote until the very moment of actually casting their votes – which resultantly will never come. If that is the case, the bill is already doomed. If not, then Pelosi might be able to pressure and outright threaten her way to the magic 216 she needs.==================================================================
That is great analysis...send it to Rush’s email!


54 posted on 03/17/2010 6:47:04 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: Pilsner

Good point. I really wasn’t even considering the vote count; my concern was that it really wasn’t worth consideration at all at the moment, especially given the number of Democrats in Congress. It just bothers me when a Freeper even brings up the subject...something I often see.


55 posted on 03/17/2010 7:20:23 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Sergeant Tim

BTTT


56 posted on 03/17/2010 8:40:10 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Sergeant Tim

Excellent!


57 posted on 03/18/2010 3:09:52 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: "When America is no longer a nation under God, she will be a nation gone under.")
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