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US states sue EPA to stop greenhouse gas rules [FL, IN, SC, VA, TX, AL...]
Rooooooters ^ | Mar 19, 2010 | Timothy Gardner

Posted on 03/19/2010 7:30:53 PM PDT by upchuck

At least 15 U.S. states have sued the Environmental Protection Agency seeking to stop it from issuing rules controlling greenhouse gas emissions until it reexamines whether the pollution harms human health.

Florida, Indiana, South Carolina and at least nine other states filed the petitions in the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. on Thursday, states said.

They joined petitions filed last month by Virginia, Texas and Alabama.

The Obama administration has long said it would attack greenhouse gas emissions with EPA regulation if Congress failed to pass a climate bill.

The state petitions call for the EPA to reopen hearings on the so-called "endangerment finding" the agency issued last year declaring the emissions dangerous to people.

"If EPA doesn't reopen the hearings we will move forward to try to stop them from regulating greenhouse gases," said Brian Gottstein, an assistant to Virginia's Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli.

The states have complained that the EPA relied too heavily from reports by the U.N.'s climate science panel which included information that exaggerated the melting of Himalayan glaciers.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Indiana; US: South Carolina; US: Texas; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; bhoepa; cuccinelli; lawsuit; statesrights; virginia
States' rights bump!
1 posted on 03/19/2010 7:30:53 PM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; A Strict Constructionist; ...
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2 posted on 03/19/2010 7:31:42 PM PDT by upchuck (Moslem terrorists kill not because of what they experience but because of what they believe.)
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To: upchuck
More Obama. What’s left to say. This is happening because Lisa Jackson (a buffoon) is EPA administrator. So those who voted for Obama voted for this fool at EPA. Elections have consequences and this wretched woman is a consequence of having Obama as president. What’s left to say?
3 posted on 03/19/2010 7:33:31 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: upchuck

It’s funny you said this. Over the last year, I believe I have come to a better understanding of how the Civil War started. There is such a stark difference between the states that are party to this lawsuit, and the states that think everything the EPA does is just peachy. I think it would be a lot better for our country if issues such as greenhouse gas rules — and many other issues — were settled and codified at the state, not federal level.


4 posted on 03/19/2010 7:35:22 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: truthguy

There has to be a boom in the legal profession with all these upcoming lawsuits.


5 posted on 03/19/2010 7:36:36 PM PDT by texanyankee
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To: upchuck
One more amusing 'graph from the story:
The EPA said it was confident it would withstand legal challenges on the issue. "The question of the science is settled," spokeswoman Adora Andy said. The science "came from an array of highly respected, peer-reviewed sources from both within the United States and across the globe, and took into consideration hundreds of thousands of comments from members of the public, which were addressed in the finding," she said.
No doubt.
6 posted on 03/19/2010 7:38:01 PM PDT by upchuck (Moslem terrorists kill not because of what they experience but because of what they believe.)
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To: truthguy

We’re startin’ to cook w/gas? Huh?

What is this, the roaring 20’s all over again?


7 posted on 03/19/2010 7:39:28 PM PDT by stickywillie
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To: La Lydia

Exactly right. Almost all the problems were having is because of federal government involvement. If Federalism worked as its supposed to, none of this crap would be happening.


8 posted on 03/19/2010 7:40:26 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and values)
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To: upchuck

Is everyone aware that the Revolt against Obama and the Commies has begun? In addition to this EPA related story, the States are also choosing to opt OUT of Obamacare.

This is just the beginning of what is coming. I don’t think the libs have a clue about what happens when The People strike back.


9 posted on 03/19/2010 7:43:26 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Bobkk47

I’m quite happy to see it. Michigan will have a republican governor before the year is out (probably Hoekstra) and he’s pushing to make it easier to recall congressmen and will likely join in this effort to slap down the EPA.


10 posted on 03/19/2010 7:46:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: upchuck

“””””The question of the science is settled,” spokeswoman Adora Andy said. The science “came from an array of highly respected, peer-reviewed sources from both within the United States and across the globe”””””””

Oh really?????


11 posted on 03/19/2010 7:47:07 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: upchuck
Not sure how much traction they will get with this, the Supreme Court already ruled that the EPA must regulate greenhouse gas emmissions. Realizing that they can't effectivly do this under the Clean Air Act in the same manner as other pollution they tried to change their policy for CO2 but again got told by the courts that they couldn't, the levels they have to regulate are specificly listed in the law.

I think if the states really wanted to get the EPA to not enforce CO2 emmisions as pollution, they should try to get the Clean Air Act amended rather than waste time sueing the EPA (which is not likely to have any actual effect, they are bound by a decision of the Supreme Court to regulate CO2 as pollution).

The optics of this look better for state AG's and Governors however as it casts them in a light of "standing up to big government", really I think it makes them look foolish as there are better ways they could approach this problem. Maybe I'm wrong though, YOMV.

12 posted on 03/19/2010 7:51:43 PM PDT by world weary
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To: ForGod'sSake

ping!


13 posted on 03/19/2010 7:55:36 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: upchuck

...Been time for the States to take back their rights from the feds. Bring on the lawsuits, time to crash and close the two party party in DC!!!

...I’m in Kain-tuck, moved here three year ago from Virginy, but, for the States to become truly United, the courts are the last hope...


14 posted on 03/19/2010 7:58:32 PM PDT by gargoyle (..."I have not yet begun to fight" John Paul Jones...)
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To: upchuck
I've only got one question.

If global warming is bullsh#t, can I have my 100 watt light bulbs back?

15 posted on 03/19/2010 8:05:56 PM PDT by erman (TOFUS- representing all 58 states of these United States of America......As)
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To: world weary
"....they tried to change their policy for CO2 but again got told by the courts that they couldn't...."

Are you saying that a court has told EPA that they can't change the regulatory threshold for CO2 from 250 tons to 25,000 tons(or maybe 70,000 tons)?

They will get sued for such action, but I wasn't aware that a court had said they couldn't try.

16 posted on 03/19/2010 8:10:42 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: gargoyle

Then we’ve no hope at all.


17 posted on 03/19/2010 8:11:11 PM PDT by benewton (Life sucks, then you die)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Thats exactly what happened. The EPA tried to amend their regulations to change the threshold, but they got sued over that, the court told them to "read the damn law" and use a threshold of 250.

The EPA is in a bind here, if they don't enforce the mandated limit they get sued, but they can't enforce it because it would paralyze the economey.

Amending the Law is the most simple fix.

18 posted on 03/19/2010 8:14:33 PM PDT by world weary
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To: world weary

Do you have a source for that?


19 posted on 03/19/2010 8:18:28 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: 17th Miss Regt; 2001convSVT; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Former_Democrat; A_Tradition_Continues; ...
Thanks bamahead! Busy night...

I suppose it wouldn't THAT much of a leap of logic given odinga's EPA ruling that at some point we would all have to be fitted with scrubbers to mitigate the dangers of the lethal gas we all exhale. SHEESH!

20 posted on 03/19/2010 8:20:08 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: upchuck

If we are to survive, the States are going to HAVE to begin resisting the Federal tyranny. THe Federal Court system, however, will be too slow, and the States have waited too long in most cases, to force the kind of action necessary to end Washington’s overreach. Legislatures will have to take the bull by the horns, start seriously reasserting their 10th Amendment rights, and threaten withholding Federal taxes, expelling Federal officials from states, and perhaps even threatening secession. To those who whine that this is not an option, I say, what other leverage are we left with then?


21 posted on 03/19/2010 8:22:00 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You can blame the other Illinois President for that....


22 posted on 03/19/2010 8:22:07 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: upchuck

Looking for the complete list of the states...


23 posted on 03/19/2010 8:28:52 PM PDT by BlackjackPershing (The patriot's blood is the seed of Freedom's tree - Thomas Campbell (Scottish poet))
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To: upchuck

The EPA better depollute itself of its own chip on the shoulder attitude. What a bunch of idiot radicals we have in government.


24 posted on 03/19/2010 8:31:16 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: benewton

...Sounds pessimistic from an upbeat person, with yer tagline. Wwwwhat do you have in mind to do???


25 posted on 03/19/2010 8:34:21 PM PDT by gargoyle (..."I have not yet begun to fight" John Paul Jones...)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Florida too!? Maybe Charlie Crist’s tanning bed emits too much CO2. He must be really pissed.


26 posted on 03/19/2010 8:44:23 PM PDT by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Ben Ficklin
The supreme court decision to have the EPA regulate greenhouse gasses as pollution under the Clean Air Act is Massachusetts v. EPA. The EPA tried to change its policies to raise the bar for levels of CO2, however this is a clear violation of the law as the EPA cannot just change the content of the Clean Air Act. The EPA doesn't really have a choice in the matter.

As for the other part, I was incorrect when I said the epa had been challanged in court on changing their levels. That hasn't happened yet, but its fairly clear what the decision of the court would be.

Changing the law is still the best way to go about making sure there isn't too much of an impact. The Clean Air act is not designed to regulate green house gasses, and the Senate is going to take up this issue soon as they have climate legislation in the works already.

27 posted on 03/19/2010 8:53:20 PM PDT by world weary
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To: Frantzie

Har! You mean the soon to be ex governor AND ex senate candidate from the great state of Florida??? Last I heard, Rubio was cleaning up the joint with him. BTW, would you be interested in swapping your soon to be senator with slimy senator John Cornyn from Texas? Cornyn has caught a terminal case of Potomac Fever.


28 posted on 03/19/2010 8:56:31 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: upchuck

the obamation is falling apart before crack sharpened eyes.


29 posted on 03/19/2010 9:01:04 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER ( EPA will rule your life)
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To: shelterguy

That’s what I thought, isn’t that what they said about global warmning?


30 posted on 03/19/2010 9:01:42 PM PDT by joesjane (The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: BlackjackPershing
Looking for the complete list of the states...

The states listed in the title (FL, IN, SC, VA, TX, AL) are the only ones mentioned in the story. Sorry.

31 posted on 03/19/2010 9:03:26 PM PDT by upchuck (Moslem terrorists kill not because of what they experience but because of what they believe.)
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To: ImaTexan

ping


32 posted on 03/19/2010 9:54:57 PM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: La Lydia

If at first you don’t secede, try, try again.

G-d, I love this place!


33 posted on 03/19/2010 10:06:42 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Cocoa Judas!)
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To: Earthdweller; Republic; MasonGal; Miss Marple

Indiana’s on the ball again. Pass it on.


34 posted on 03/20/2010 2:24:25 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: upchuck; Beowulf; Tunehead54; Clive; Fractal Trader; tubebender; marvlus; Genesis defender; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !
EPA: An unelected, flunky bureaucracy wielding rogue powers based in junk science. A cancer on the private sector.

Action against EPA abuse of power by private enterprise:

Action against EPA abuse of power by state/federal government:

Action in support of EPA abuse of power:


☆☆ States Officially Rejecting Anthropogenic Global Warming

☆ Utah
☆ Arizona

35 posted on 03/20/2010 4:48:02 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
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To: upchuck

Part of the healtcare deal with the far left is that a carbon tax bill will be passed, which not only starts up cap and trade, but taxes every transaction of the credits up to 20% of the agreed deal; both the initial sale money and the transaction tax money going to the IRS.


36 posted on 03/20/2010 7:03:00 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Bobkk47

We need to install CONGRESSIONAL SCRUBBERS.


37 posted on 03/20/2010 7:13:02 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: upchuck

“”If EPA doesn’t reopen the hearings we will move forward to try to stop them from regulating greenhouse gases,” said Brian Gottstein, an assistant to Virginia’s Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli.”

...GO Cuch!


38 posted on 03/20/2010 7:16:30 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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